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Replying To gunman: "From what I can see nearly all teams are playing the same style of football with the exception of Mayo.Even Armagh who played a fairly exciting brand of football have gone very defensive this year.Galway are very defensive.I watched the Kerry v Armagh game and it was turgid stuff from both teams.It is evident that scoring in general is low this year.With regard to Donegal I wouldn't dispute that the style of club football we are playing is not good for the development of players but it seems to be winning Co championships." Most teams do get men behind the ball but the key difference is in the transition. Armagh, Mayo, Galway and especially Kerry kick pass when it's on and look to get it into the socring zone as quickly as they can. We seem incapable/unwilling to. Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9759 - 16/03/2023 13:59:28 2464204 Link
Replying To CCFabu: "I wonder will there be any self-reflection from folks backing the CB or within the CB themselves. not a hope of the latter I suppose. Big egos desperate to feel important and hold onto their wee sliver of power. what a farce and it's been a farce at CB going back a long long way in Donegal. I feel for Fergus McGee as by all accounts he's a good man and I really, really feel for Paddy Carr and the squad with all this swirling around. Disgraceful stuff that we all have known about but to see it aired out like this on a national stage just confirming what we all knew and some folks were insisting to us was false or not "the whole story", lán cac bhó agus gan ciall how do we reset from here folks" Hi CCFabú: 1 of your own clubmen was knocking about the County board there for a while. The locals spoke at the ballot box anyway. AudiMan (Donegal) - Posts: 683 - 16/03/2023 14:01:03 2464205 Link
Replying To AudiMan: "Hi CCFabú: 1 of your own clubmen was knocking about the County board there for a while. The locals spoke at the ballot box anyway." yeah, less said about that fella the better CCFabu (Donegal) - Posts: 173 - 16/03/2023 14:46:28 2464218 Link
Replying To Lockjaw: "Most teams do get men behind the ball but the key difference is in the transition. Armagh, Mayo, Galway and especially Kerry kick pass when it's on and look to get it into the socring zone as quickly as they can. We seem incapable/unwilling to." True but very often there is no movement inside and the only option is to keep possession or lump hopeful balls in hoping for a break.I often see for instance a man taking a free out the field looking up and having to turn and kick the ball backwards.There has to be an understanding between the outfield players and the men inside.That definitely has to be worked on. gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1149 - 16/03/2023 14:53:22 2464223 Link
Replying To gunman: "True but very often there is no movement inside and the only option is to keep possession or lump hopeful balls in hoping for a break.I often see for instance a man taking a free out the field looking up and having to turn and kick the ball backwards.There has to be an understanding between the outfield players and the men inside.That definitely has to be worked on." Oh for sure I agree. It's a two-way street. The movement has to be there in order for the kick passer out the field to even have the option. But too often, good turnovers are wasted by slow ponderous play and the opportunity to punish teams on the counter attack is lost. In my opinion, any county player should have the ability to kick pass the ball 40 or 50 yards. It shouldn't be the case that we need to get the ball to a particular player first before a kick pass can be delivered inside (looked to me like that was the tactic against Armagh with Dáire O'Baoíll) Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9759 - 16/03/2023 15:22:39 2464237 Link
Replying To TheFlaker: "I meant in the sense that Devenney was clearly not criticising the county board which he still hasn't done. He was being fed information by the coaching officer. If you want to deny that then go ahead." I didn't suggest I was defending anything. You said you were attacked - you weren't. You said DV and coaching officer are good mates - they 100% are not. I agree with most of what you say and it's spot on but on this you are not. Your as far out as Fanad Lighthouse. eunans4ever (Donegal) - Posts: 1693 - 16/03/2023 16:13:09 2464258 Link
Jim McGuinness didn't paint the Donegal county board and its selection committee in a good light in that recent podcast. Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3610 - 16/03/2023 16:18:34 2464262 Link
Replying To eunans4ever: "I didn't suggest I was defending anything. You said you were attacked - you weren't. You said DV and coaching officer are good mates - they 100% are not. I agree with most of what you say and it's spot on but on this you are not. Your as far out as Fanad Lighthouse." Sorry you seem to think I was directing at you. I wasn't. Other posters called me a bluffer, a troll etc. Etc. As for me being as far out as Fanad lighthouse. I am not. Devenney has been casting doubts on everything coming from Laceys side. He is absolutely been fed information and was one of the people asked not to discuss it on air. His tune will change over time so he can save face. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8384 - 16/03/2023 16:26:53 2464266 Link
Replying To eunans4ever: "I didn't suggest I was defending anything. You said you were attacked - you weren't. You said DV and coaching officer are good mates - they 100% are not. I agree with most of what you say and it's spot on but on this you are not. Your as far out as Fanad Lighthouse." Was it the Lacey situation that made Rory Kavanagh pull out of the managers job. gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1149 - 16/03/2023 16:31:58 2464268 Link
A dream management team in the minds of a lot of peoples, Kavanagh and Lacey with McGuinness in the background and Murphy having said he was in for another year. What happened, Letterkenny loose country final playing pure puke football with a far better panel than glenties. After a while Kavanagh pulls out of race, County Board go into hiding and eventually pick Paddy Carr a decent man as Manager. Next thing Murphy says he has retired, next thing LKacey resigns and all his coaches, What is wrong , the many GAA supporters deserve a full explanation from everyone involved. jacktheboy (Donegal) - Posts: 477 - 16/03/2023 16:56:49 2464273 Link
Replying To TheFlaker: "Sorry you seem to think I was directing at you. I wasn't. Other posters called me a bluffer, a troll etc. Etc. As for me being as far out as Fanad lighthouse. I am not. Devenney has been casting doubts on everything coming from Laceys side. He is absolutely been fed information and was one of the people asked not to discuss it on air. His tune will change over time so he can save face." You seem like a smart enough lad - but I'm genuinely thinking you can't read my friend. I never mentioned anything other than DV is not a close friend of the coaching officer - that is a fact. I've no doubt stuff is been leaked to him - from where I've no idea. eunans4ever (Donegal) - Posts: 1693 - 16/03/2023 17:51:18 2464278 Link
I would love Jim to come back. All the legend has to do is state his interest! He plays a wee game does our Jim! Had he not been helping out Naomh Conaill against Rory's St Eunans, it might all have ended differently re the county management. SignTheContract (Donegal) - Posts: 197 - 16/03/2023 20:16:36 2464294 Link
After watching the disintegrating mess of the past month, surely the county board and chairman would need to reflect on their positions? Clearly, a new group of people with modern ways of doing things need to come in and bring our county into 2023. The managerial appointment fiasco, ignoring McGuinness, the academy affair, the radio silence, the secrecy, the quietening of the media. It's one expanding storm of ineptitude and narrow thinking. Listening to Brendan Devenney the last night was tedious, a player I loved watching. Defending the indefensible. Are we simply going to say the same people who made all these mistakes are the same people who can now fix them? Wow.. Where does this all end? "Lessons were learned" and proceed on in the same ham-fisted manner at the detriment of Donegal football? Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1409 - 17/03/2023 07:44:05 2464310 Link
Replying To Donegal_abroad: "After watching the disintegrating mess of the past month, surely the county board and chairman would need to reflect on their positions? Clearly, a new group of people with modern ways of doing things need to come in and bring our county into 2023. The managerial appointment fiasco, ignoring McGuinness, the academy affair, the radio silence, the secrecy, the quietening of the media. It's one expanding storm of ineptitude and narrow thinking. Listening to Brendan Devenney the last night was tedious, a player I loved watching. Defending the indefensible. Are we simply going to say the same people who made all these mistakes are the same people who can now fix them? Wow.. Where does this all end? "Lessons were learned" and proceed on in the same ham-fisted manner at the detriment of Donegal football?" Get bonner in to settle this . He's not afraid to call it as it is. Well respected by the genuine gaa people in Donegal. As he says in his column today the academy is our future.. this is going on too long. The young lads especially the u 14 must be devastated to know that Lacey Murphy and Mc Guinness we're going to take them on and for this debacle to happen… give our youngsters a chance it's the least they deserve. rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2615 - 17/03/2023 11:09:18 2464325 Link
Replying To gunman: "Was it the Lacey situation that made Rory Kavanagh pull out of the managers job." Was it all of this mess made Michael's mind up to up to retire?? A lot of us on here and elsewhere have been talking for years about the lateral backwards keep ball rubbish we have been playing, for the love of God just go out and play football, if you get beat at least you haven't bored the arse of the spectators that paid good money to go and watch the game. In fairness to Bonner the first couple of years he was in we were playing much better football after the years of borefest under Rory. then whatever the reason in his last few seasons we ended up playing the backwards stuff again. I know lifelong GAA men who wouldn't even consider going to watch the county play anymore it such boring muck. We have to start playing football again with our heads up, hopefully we can start on Sunday. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3186 - 17/03/2023 12:00:12 2464335 Link
I think it's going to take something similar to the McGuinness regime in 2011 to change our ways. Whether it's actually him or not, time will tell. I can actually see him coming back with a different blueprint. It's going to take a complete cultural shift, and for that we need huge characters involved, and buy in from everyone. I don't think the CB stuff is the reason Murphy retired, it may have played some part subconsciously though. He stated in his interviews, post retirement, that a few years previous he was very much intent on becoming a coach & manager when he hung up his boots, but he wasn't so sure anymore. I would be fairly confident the reason for that is the CB and the ways things are done at present. ninety-two (Donegal) - Posts: 27 - 17/03/2023 12:26:39 2464344 Link
I think it's going to take something similar to the McGuinness regime in 2011 to change our ways. Whether it's actually him or not, time will tell. I can actually see him coming back with a different blueprint. It's going to take a complete cultural shift, and for that we need huge characters involved, and buy in from everyone. I don't think the CB stuff is the reason Murphy retired, it may have played some part subconsciously though. He stated in his interviews, post retirement, that a few years previous he was very much intent on becoming a coach & manager when he hung up his boots, but he wasn't so sure anymore. I would be fairly confident the reason for that is the CB and the ways things are done at present. ninety-two (Donegal) - Posts: 27 - 17/03/2023 13:40:26 2464354 Link
Replying To gunman: "Was it the Lacey situation that made Rory Kavanagh pull out of the managers job." I believe there were a number of things all together that made Rory withdraw. Many believed that they were waiting until after the County Final, to announce what many people assumed was a foregone conclusion. But appears that negotiations were not going well behind the scenes. I was told that the Treasurer had a deal done with Kavanagh of X for him and the backroom team. However, the Chair then instructed the Treasurer back into talks, with X minus Y. I don't know if the Academy situation played any part at all. Perhaps Flaker would have an insight into this. Then, the County Final fiasco was probably the straw that broke the camels back. I certainly believe that there was bad feelings; firstly they had to abandon the Jubilee Team of 1997 presentation. Yet, it was a man who was on the Pitch in 97 that ultimately decided the outcome of the 2022 Final. It was publicised at the time, I think John Haran on the DL Debate, that Eunans had no problem with the Referee. However, he didn't extend the olive branch any further. If you were a little annoyed with the progress of discussions with the CB, that would, rightly in my mind, be enough to withdraw my candidacy. SouthOfTheGap (Donegal) - Posts: 777 - 17/03/2023 14:55:51 2464366 Link
looks like the ladies are heading for division 2 also , new manager needed there also, things can only get better jacktheboy (Donegal) - Posts: 477 - 17/03/2023 16:54:24 2464381 Link
Replying To SignTheContract: "I would love Jim to come back. All the legend has to do is state his interest! He plays a wee game does our Jim! Had he not been helping out Naomh Conaill against Rory's St Eunans, it might all have ended differently re the county management." Best one yet! themaddog (Wicklow) - Posts: 143 - 17/03/2023 19:22:58 2464391 Link