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Replying To ryan:  "County board meeting last night, any update on the academy situation? Nearly 3 weeks now."
See no evil hear no evil speak no evil.

AudiMan (Donegal) - Posts: 683 - 21/02/2023 15:26:54    2459612

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Replying To greatpoint:  "Issues imposed on him by the county board after he had already taken the job"
What issues ?

TheRock2121 (Donegal) - Posts: 1208 - 21/02/2023 16:52:08    2459638

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Replying To AudiMan:  "See no evil hear no evil speak no evil."
Word on the street is that maybe the academy situation isn't all the county board's fault. No idea how accurate that might be.. time will tell I guess

greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 636 - 21/02/2023 21:01:52    2459686

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Replying To greenfan:  "Word on the street is that maybe the academy situation isn't all the county board's fault. No idea how accurate that might be.. time will tell I guess"
Define all? Still no statement because they are trying to find some tiny thing to show it isn't all their fault. They can't even release a statement, that says it all.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8388 - 22/02/2023 09:25:51    2459696

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "Define all? Still no statement because they are trying to find some tiny thing to show it isn't all their fault. They can't even release a statement, that says it all."
Infairness they are probably trying to find a solution to the problem I.e. get Lacey and his team back.If its not successful then release a statement.

heyday (Laois) - Posts: 35 - 22/02/2023 09:47:06    2459704

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Replying To heyday:  "Infairness they are probably trying to find a solution to the problem I.e. get Lacey and his team back.If its not successful then release a statement."
Peiledoir20 you are some bluffer.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8388 - 22/02/2023 10:05:14    2459710

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "Define all? Still no statement because they are trying to find some tiny thing to show it isn't all their fault. They can't even release a statement, that says it all."
Why do they have to release a statement? Maybe they are working on the issue and trying to find a solution and will release a statement when they actually have some progress to share. Maybe there's 2 sides to this , maybe there's blame on both sides. Maybe the county board got some things wrong. Maybe Karl lacey and his staff got some things wrong too. Let's wait and see before automatically assuming it's all the county board's fault.

greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 636 - 22/02/2023 11:07:12    2459731

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Replying To greenfan:  "Why do they have to release a statement? Maybe they are working on the issue and trying to find a solution and will release a statement when they actually have some progress to share. Maybe there's 2 sides to this , maybe there's blame on both sides. Maybe the county board got some things wrong. Maybe Karl lacey and his staff got some things wrong too. Let's wait and see before automatically assuming it's all the county board's fault."
I never said Lacey got absolutely everything right 100 per cent. But I can assure you 100 per cent they haven't released a statement because they are scrambling behind the scenes to try and put something coherent together. They are seriously, seriously incompetent.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8388 - 22/02/2023 11:26:05    2459736

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This thread is becoming farcical. Nothing is going to be solved posting anonymously on a forum.

If people have an opinion go to your club meetings. Air your opinion there and have your club delegate bring it up at a county board meeting.

MickyThePost (Donegal) - Posts: 30 - 22/02/2023 11:46:43    2459744

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "I never said Lacey got absolutely everything right 100 per cent. But I can assure you 100 per cent they haven't released a statement because they are scrambling behind the scenes to try and put something coherent together. They are seriously, seriously incompetent."
Who are these seriously incompetent people.Were they not voted in to their positions by our club delegates who were elected at our club AGMs.I am sure there are not many people on here who went their AGMs and demanded that we send more competent people to the Co Board.

gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1153 - 22/02/2023 11:48:31    2459745

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I've touched on this before earlier in the thread but I think it merits mentioning again. Running things in the GAA has changed beyond all recognition from what it was even 10 or 20 years ago. There is no doubt that there are genuine good GAA people in our county board. But the things that are expected of them may be beyond their capabilities especially when it comes to the financial aspect.

Counties like Dublin run their affairs like a corporation. They have commercial managers involved, marketing people etc. Now I know there is more money in the capital but the point stands. When there are millions involved , managing that correctly & transparently should be of utmost importance.

I'm not sure how Donegal GAA manage their financial affairs, is it done via external accountancy consultants?

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9766 - 22/02/2023 12:19:47    2459749

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "I've touched on this before earlier in the thread but I think it merits mentioning again. Running things in the GAA has changed beyond all recognition from what it was even 10 or 20 years ago. There is no doubt that there are genuine good GAA people in our county board. But the things that are expected of them may be beyond their capabilities especially when it comes to the financial aspect.

Counties like Dublin run their affairs like a corporation. They have commercial managers involved, marketing people etc. Now I know there is more money in the capital but the point stands. When there are millions involved , managing that correctly & transparently should be of utmost importance.

I'm not sure how Donegal GAA manage their financial affairs, is it done via external accountancy consultants?"
For sure. Also people assume that the guys running the show are the best people. That isn't always the case. If you are willing to attend random club meetings and love that kind of stuff you can work your way up the ladder and stay in positions of power long term. Now that isn't the fault of the people who make it to the top but the system and the people involved tend is dated to say the least.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8388 - 22/02/2023 12:50:35    2459760

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Donegal GAA has gone backwards at a rate of knots in the past 12months, and could be a very long time before we emerge from the situation the ongoing mess leaves us in.

beidhmeanseo (Donegal) - Posts: 143 - 22/02/2023 13:41:21    2459768

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Replying To gunman:  "Who are these seriously incompetent people.Were they not voted in to their positions by our club delegates who were elected at our club AGMs.I am sure there are not many people on here who went their AGMs and demanded that we send more competent people to the Co Board."
100% agree, you cannot keep blaming people when these same people have just been re- elected by clubs. Most of the same people seem to be re-elected again and until that changes there is no point in blaming them. Only clubs will change the status qué. I have no idea who is to blame for this fiasco but it's a sad reflection on Donegal football at the minute.

Scenicparish (Donegal) - Posts: 494 - 22/02/2023 14:39:30    2459774

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Replying To rorysboys:  "It's not a brand new team. It's mostly the same players as this last few years. We should not be losing to a poor Monaghan team by that amount. We have ciaran to come back maybe one or two more. I've been saying this last few years we don't have the defenders to be playing the top teams and I was told we have as much talent as any team. I don't blame p carr ."
There is a lot of players gone or have not made themselves available. Mc Gee, Ryan, Paul Brennan Ethan O Donnell gone from the back line. Mc menamin being tried at centre half back, Jack Mc Kelvey injured, Owen Ban just back from a long injury.
Shane & Niall O Donnell, Michael Murphy from the forward line. Thompson & Mc Brearty injured. Langan & Mogan just back from injury.
A lot of the above will take a lot of time and patience to replace.u

Scenicparish (Donegal) - Posts: 494 - 22/02/2023 14:47:53    2459776

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Regarding the team setup, we seem to be lacking creativity up front at the moment, I think this has been the most concerning thing this year so far, Its great to see Oisin Gallen back in the side.

Also I think Stephen McMenamin is our No 6, I think his best performances are when he is on the front foot, he makes some serious ground. My half back line would be Eoghan Ban Gallagher, Stephen McMenamin and Jack McKelvey.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1344 - 22/02/2023 15:25:57    2459785

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Replying To Scenicparish:  "There is a lot of players gone or have not made themselves available. Mc Gee, Ryan, Paul Brennan Ethan O Donnell gone from the back line. Mc menamin being tried at centre half back, Jack Mc Kelvey injured, Owen Ban just back from a long injury.
Shane & Niall O Donnell, Michael Murphy from the forward line. Thompson & Mc Brearty injured. Langan & Mogan just back from injury.
A lot of the above will take a lot of time and patience to replace.u"
Did Kieran Tobin opt out of the squad? I would have rated him ahead of quite a few defensive players, plus Conor Morrison made his return to St Eunan's last season, a guy who would have been left corner back before his injury.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1344 - 22/02/2023 15:37:36    2459791

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Replying To Scenicparish:  "100% agree, you cannot keep blaming people when these same people have just been re- elected by clubs. Most of the same people seem to be re-elected again and until that changes there is no point in blaming them. Only clubs will change the status qué. I have no idea who is to blame for this fiasco but it's a sad reflection on Donegal football at the minute."
I don't think its clear cut case of blame, there was a disagreement behind the scenes, which then was made public with a mass walkout. I don't know the details of what the issue is, but the assumption that someone is to blame might be misguided. It might be over funding that simply is not available.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1344 - 22/02/2023 15:41:09    2459793

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Replying To beidhmeanseo:  "Donegal GAA has gone backwards at a rate of knots in the past 12months, and could be a very long time before we emerge from the situation the ongoing mess leaves us in."
We have been in 9 out of the last 11 Ulster finals,brand new centre of excellence,the LYIT in sigerson is a massive plus.Agreed the underage set up needs to be sorted.We are a the end of a cycle we how need to push on again

heyday (Laois) - Posts: 35 - 22/02/2023 15:49:14    2459794

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "For sure. Also people assume that the guys running the show are the best people. That isn't always the case. If you are willing to attend random club meetings and love that kind of stuff you can work your way up the ladder and stay in positions of power long term. Now that isn't the fault of the people who make it to the top but the system and the people involved tend is dated to say the least."
Yeah that's true. Look I'm as guilty of it as anyone, preaching away here anonymously. The only way under the current system that change will come about is if enough like-minded people get a mandate from their clubs to advocate for change at county meetings. The trouble is though that some people have been in postion for years, and there can be a "let's not rock the boat" attitude.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9766 - 22/02/2023 16:04:07    2459796

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