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You were the one only who mentioned 'fault'. My reply was in relation to you questioning his relevance. You just keep coming up with more stuff to throw at this one individual. If you have that much of an issue with him maybe you should contact him directly. Also, why the need to produce 3 separate replies to my one post? Maybe you're rattled for being identified as a puppet. peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1200 - 10/02/2023 08:06:29 2457567 Link 2 |
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Yes there would appear to be a "shoot the messanger" attitude among some posters towards the Mayo man. I had heard similar tremors before Christmas and hoped that the rumours were wrong but sadly not. Now, a lot of our dirty linen is starting to get aired in public which is never a good thing. But I suppose if it does lead to some sort of clean slate it might work out better in the end. Short term pain for long term gain. Some heads will undoubtedly roll in the process and unfortunately it'll be the young players who suffer most in the meantime.
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9765 - 10/02/2023 08:50:44 2457568 Link 0 |
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I am not shooting any messenger. What I can't get my head around is his targeting of one individual, it all seems very personal. Others have mooted that the county board as whole are at fault which may or may not be that case, that will be investigated sooner rather than later hopefully. But this poster from Mayo hasn't mentioned the county board and continues to take umbrage with one specific individual. The effectiveness of the CB was questioned long before the coaching officer came on the scene. He is a puppet for someone who has an axe to grind. Surely, engaging with the person in question would be a better way to try and find a resolution rather would be more constructive than leaking information on an anonymous forum? peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1200 - 10/02/2023 09:47:54 2457578 Link 1 |
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Lol hard to know if you are a troll or genuine, one can only hope it's the former. Again i will say his qualifications do not mean he cannot be at fault for the current situation. If that is how you judge everything it might be time for you to broaden your mind. It will become public knowledge eventually anyway so you can have a good read about the facts then. A puppet? Rattled? I am from Mayo lad, this situation doesn't have any implication on me or my county but I find it utterly bizarre that people are still questioning who might be at fault after the events of the last few days . TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8385 - 10/02/2023 09:53:56 2457583 Link 0 |
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Thanks Lockjaw. Not trying to stir up anything but there are some great people involved in the academy and this is all about politics and people staying in power and calling the shots. Some of the academy coaches are great people I have played against back in the day and have no agenda, all they care about it making Donegal a force long term . Some of the ill informed comments towards the people doing all the heavy lifting are embarrassing to say the least. Perhaps there is infighting between posters from different clubs on here and that is also clouding judgement. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8385 - 10/02/2023 09:59:23 2457588 Link 0 |
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Everyone knows the craic with the governance of Donegal GAA as the academy coaches said in their statement, it's sad on the young ones that it has come to this. There are those who couldn't give a flying hoot about the young people in Donegal and are only interested in power, and hopefully while this is a mess at the minute, maybe it's the start of something finally changing in the county. CCFabu (Donegal) - Posts: 176 - 10/02/2023 10:11:53 2457592 Link 1 |
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The Chief coaching officer is the man who stalled the academy progess as he wanted to do a full review of how things are and then he was to approve a strategy. They have been waiting months for the review to take place . Did you think I was picking him out for the craic? I don't know the man, but he is the Chief Coaching Officer and the man primarily responsible for the stalling of academy progress. Already mentioned the county board in previous posts about other matters but we are currently talking about the academy and what has led to this, try and keep up.
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8385 - 10/02/2023 10:29:51 2457594 Link 0 |
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Paul McGonigle ran for the county chairman position and he visited any club that would accommodate him in person. I believe he said in some interviews and also to the clubs that the first thing he would do if the elected chairman would be to carry out a full review of Donegal GAA governance and a full audit. The academy has also been asking for a full breakdown of its spending in 2022 since October but it has not been forthcoming. I am told this has been requested every 2 weeks since October but no response has even been given to correspondence. If the academy has anything to hide why are they asking for this? I would think it's more the executive have things to hide and do not want an audit or a review of how they have been operating. The clubs and the delegates are as much to blame in all of this as they were told before the convention that things would not change and yet they voted for the status quo and moved the chairs on the titanic. ryan (Donegal) - Posts: 748 - 10/02/2023 10:35:53 2457596 Link 1 |
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You see, we don't know why they resigned. They should outline their reasons. "Good governance" is a catch all term. They are hiding behind it at the minute. They are the ones being completely disingenuous. Let them act like men and come out and say what's eating them up. They might have a legitimate gripe, but for them to lump everything into their beef is a terrible comment to make. No confidence in Donegal Board's ability to govern GAA in Donegal is what they said. That brings in a whole lot more than the academy and they are 100% wrong to say it. Stick to their issues, let's hear them. Why haven't they come out and said what they are? Is it money? €5000 per week is the figure being mentioned for coaching at the academy. Who is getting it? What are they getting it for? Donegal GAA can't stand over that type of expenditure and not know where it's going. The coaching officer asked for a job description to be put in place for paid positions in the academy? This has been met with a lot of resistance from the Academy side and has formed the basis of their disgruntlement. Is that not good governance though? peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1200 - 10/02/2023 10:36:39 2457597 Link 0 |
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"They have been waiting months for a review to take place" Do you know that the CCO was only elected to his position in December? Try and keep up lad. I don't think you have a gripe with him but your puppet master certainly does. peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1200 - 10/02/2023 10:50:36 2457602 Link 1 |
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The money figure has long been disputed by the academy who have even asked for a detailed breakdown of expenditure which up until now was still withheld by the county board.
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8385 - 10/02/2023 10:53:28 2457604 Link 0 |
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They were informed of the new process in November when he was taking over. It is now mid February. Is that not months. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about here. Puppet Master? I know about 5 coaches in the academy and also people outside of it who are well informed. That's my sources. Good football people. Who is giving you your information? The comments section of Donegal Daily by the looks of it.
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8385 - 10/02/2023 11:06:42 2457607 Link 0 |
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How was he taking over in November when he wasn't elected until mid December? He was up against another candidate for the position so would it not have been arrogant of him to start the work in November given he had some opposition? Maybe you should tell your sources to come out and state clearly what their gripes are instead of hiding behind a puppet. peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1200 - 10/02/2023 11:13:18 2457609 Link 2 |
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Hopefully gallen will be back for Monaghan game after his tour de force for dcu this week. We could badly do with his movement and guile up front totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 1063 - 10/02/2023 11:26:24 2457612 Link 2 |
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How was he taking over in November when he wasn't elected until mid December? He was up against another candidate for the position so would it not have been arrogant of him to start the work in November given he had some opposition? Maybe you should tell your sources to come out and state clearly what their gripes are instead of hiding behind a puppet."]Why are you up in the air about what's happening. Maybe you're a muppet for the coaching officer. Every thing the flaker says is exactly what I'm hearing. rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2616 - 10/02/2023 11:32:23 2457616 Link 1 |
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How was he taking over in November when he wasn't elected until mid December? He was up against another candidate for the position so would it not have been arrogant of him to start the work in November given he had some opposition? Maybe you should tell your sources to come out and state clearly what their gripes are instead of hiding behind a puppet."]Lol another candidate. That's like saying McGee was up against McGonagle. It was a done deal before the vote. To make you happy let's go with early December. It's now mid February and the review conducted by him still hasn't taken place even though they were told every week It's happening. Is December to Mid February not months or are you going to argue basic maths as well? You ignore other posters as well who have stated the academy wanted a breakdown of spending yet in the same breath you are happy to say 5k a week is being spent. Absolutely clueless TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8385 - 10/02/2023 11:56:11 2457622 Link 1 |
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Flaker, I disagreed and still do with some of your finer points around what happened with the managerial appointment, as it's incongruent with info I have heard and makes certain individuals look more blameless than they should be. SurelyToGod (Donegal) - Posts: 452 - 10/02/2023 12:12:44 2457624 Link 0 |
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How was he taking over in November when he wasn't elected until mid December? He was up against another candidate for the position so would it not have been arrogant of him to start the work in November given he had some opposition? Maybe you should tell your sources to come out and state clearly what their gripes are instead of hiding behind a puppet."]Why are you up in the air about what's happening. Maybe you're a muppet for the coaching officer. Every thing the flaker says is exactly what I'm hearing."]I have no affinity to the academy or the coaching officer. I want this sorry mess to be resolved as soon as possible for the good of Donegal football as much as anybody else. I live in Donegal and have played club football in Donegal all my life and supported the county team. I have no agenda, just for Donegal football to prosper to it's fullest. Which is why you won't find me on the Mayo page drip feeding information for someone who hasn't the liathroid to do it themselves. peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1200 - 10/02/2023 12:19:08 2457628 Link 0 |
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Could anybody tell me how many coaches there are are in the Academy and who they are? gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1150 - 10/02/2023 12:45:01 2457638 Link 0 |
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Poor man so unlucky with injuries. It would be great to see him having an injury free season to see his undoubted talent blossom on the big stage.
Curlew66 (Roscommon) - Posts: 604 - 10/02/2023 12:45:17 2457639 Link 0 |