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Replying To TheFlaker:  "The head coaching officer. He is also some part of Carrs backroom team. A role created by the county board. These lads haven't a notion."
Maybe have a look at his CV first before saying he hasn't a notion.

peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1198 - 08/02/2023 15:49:28    2457299

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "Karl Lacey's decision to step away from his Academy Director role is very troubling news. There seems to be a bit of political manoeuvring going on at the minute. I'm not familiar with all the details but losing the expertise of one of our most decorated players ever cannot be a good thing."
Over €400k spent on the Academy 2022, mind boggling.

Scenicparish (Donegal) - Posts: 486 - 08/02/2023 16:21:39    2457311

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Replying To Scenicparish:  "Over €400k spent on the Academy 2022, mind boggling."
Imagine that, investing in our underage! Crazy stuff ..

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1409 - 08/02/2023 16:45:49    2457324

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Replying To Special K:  "It doesn't matter much which players are returning if we continue to employ the same playing 'style' that plagued the latter stages of the Bonner era.

I thought we had started a new chapter after the Kerry game where some kick passing and a more direct style were evident but the Tyrone game has seen a return to our worst habits as a team:

- lateral hand passing to players standing still
- hard running into the wings only to turn around and hand pass off to a man surrounded
- putting a big man in at full forward for 10 mins and not kicking any balls into him

I was and am still hopeful that Paddy Carr and co. can see this and change course.
It doesn't have to be gung-ho but I think we all would like to see some quicker ball and a bit of purpose to our attack.
At the minute it looks like the players have no idea what to do when moving out of defence with the ball.

It is so easy to defend against and unwatchable for spectators.
Far too many players that are great on paper play the game in 2nd gear in a Donegal shirt because of this."
I agree that lateral ineffective playing style is so hard to watch, I was hoping Paddy Carr could at least change that,
It's early days for him yet so lets see how he develops this team coming into Championship,
If we are going to get beat then we might as well have a go, I think he should play Hughie in at FF now in most games anyway
IMO we have to win against Monaghan to give ourselves a decent chance of staying up, Monaghan won't be easy beat at home though and have been a bogey team for us many times.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3186 - 08/02/2023 17:07:15    2457330

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Replying To Scenicparish:  "Over €400k spent on the Academy 2022, mind boggling."
Where is this figure coming from.?

TheRock2121 (Donegal) - Posts: 1208 - 08/02/2023 17:08:41    2457331

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Replying To peiledoir20:  "Maybe have a look at his CV first before saying he hasn't a notion."
Lol I know his CV. Maybe speak to people around the county who have dealt with him personally. He has managed to land roles in multiple counties and never left a positive trail behind him. He had Mayo players pushing cars around car parks in the 90s. You can defend him all you want. If he is in the right he would have been at the meeting last night but he was absent because most of the questions were going to be directed at him.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8384 - 08/02/2023 18:18:31    2457347

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "The head coaching officer. He is also some part of Carrs backroom team. A role created by the county board. These lads haven't a notion."
Is that the man that replaced Aaron Kyles?

SouthOfTheGap (Donegal) - Posts: 777 - 08/02/2023 19:10:28    2457351

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I see Mc Conville is tipping Donegal to be relegated, that's one for the dressing room wall. Says we don't score enough

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3186 - 08/02/2023 19:12:34    2457352

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "The head coaching officer. He is also some part of Carrs backroom team. A role created by the county board. These lads haven't a notion."
Or is it the man who was on the 3 man interviewing team?

SouthOfTheGap (Donegal) - Posts: 777 - 08/02/2023 19:27:00    2457355

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Oisin Gallen back with DCU tonight looked impressive at times lenghty lay off looks to have bulked up.Hopefully some part to play on Sunday week.

neutral (None) - Posts: 358 - 08/02/2023 19:44:53    2457356

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Replying To Special K:  "It doesn't matter much which players are returning if we continue to employ the same playing 'style' that plagued the latter stages of the Bonner era.

I thought we had started a new chapter after the Kerry game where some kick passing and a more direct style were evident but the Tyrone game has seen a return to our worst habits as a team:

- lateral hand passing to players standing still
- hard running into the wings only to turn around and hand pass off to a man surrounded
- putting a big man in at full forward for 10 mins and not kicking any balls into him

I was and am still hopeful that Paddy Carr and co. can see this and change course.
It doesn't have to be gung-ho but I think we all would like to see some quicker ball and a bit of purpose to our attack.
At the minute it looks like the players have no idea what to do when moving out of defence with the ball.

It is so easy to defend against and unwatchable for spectators.
Far too many players that are great on paper play the game in 2nd gear in a Donegal shirt because of this."
Most teams are playing like this for some reason, horrible to watch and it doesn't work! Armagh are a great example of moving the ball out of defence, do it at great speed, can't understand why teams do it so slowly. It's painful to watch Monaghan doing it so slowly but they persist with it for some reason

achara (Monaghan) - Posts: 584 - 09/02/2023 08:22:39    2457374

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The academy coaches will back Lacey here, have no doubt about that. They could walk. It's gas that some people on here still wonder who the problem is.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8384 - 09/02/2023 08:31:04    2457375

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Replying To Scenicparish:  "Over €400k spent on the Academy 2022, mind boggling."
Where did you hear that figure? I'm not disputing it, just interested to hear. It's a lot of money surely. It would be good to see a breakdown of how it was spent.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9759 - 09/02/2023 08:57:35    2457378

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Replying To neutral:  "Oisin Gallen back with DCU tonight looked impressive at times lenghty lay off looks to have bulked up.Hopefully some part to play on Sunday week."
He looked fairly sharp for a man who has missed a lot of games.

As you say, seriously bullied up too. Looks like a man mountain and will be hard to handle inside.

peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1198 - 09/02/2023 09:31:11    2457381

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "The academy coaches will back Lacey here, have no doubt about that. They could walk. It's gas that some people on here still wonder who the problem is."
A few egos in the Academy who thinks money grows on trees.

peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1198 - 09/02/2023 09:37:00    2457383

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "Where did you hear that figure? I'm not disputing it, just interested to hear. It's a lot of money surely. It would be good to see a breakdown of how it was spent."
I don't think it was 400k on the academy. In the treasurers report there was 411k spent on 'Coaching and Games Development' which includes the Academy but also includes other items also.

greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 633 - 09/02/2023 10:01:20    2457386

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Apart from Donegal's deserving win against Kerry, the last few months has been a **** show in Donegal GAA. We voted at convention that we were going back to even age groups and the central council delegate was told by the outgoing chair that he was mandated to vote in favour of even years instead of odd. Now the county board met and stuck with odd ages. Then the back pedalling started and county board claim that didnt have all the information and a new vote may be required. A joke. It's plain to see that there is a divide in Donegal GAA at the moment, and if it's left to fester it will destroy the GAA community in Donegal. Whether you are pro one side or the other makes no odds, because in the end of the day it's the young players that are going to suffer. I have heard from both sides of the arguments of what both sides are alleging of each other and a lot of it seems to be focused around money, so this is not going away anytime fast. I feared for Donegal on the pitch this year and although I got it wrong in the first game, I still have a very pessimistic feeling about the rest of the year. I hope I am wrong. But more worryingly is the state of the board at present, this infighting and back biting is going to ruin things for the future if not addressed immediately but I can't see it because to many egos involved and too much politics at play.... It would be great if the GAA was just about the sporting side of things .....

KerrymanStuckInDonegal (Kerry) - Posts: 271 - 09/02/2023 10:03:24    2457388

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "I agree that lateral ineffective playing style is so hard to watch, I was hoping Paddy Carr could at least change that,
It's early days for him yet so lets see how he develops this team coming into Championship,
If we are going to get beat then we might as well have a go, I think he should play Hughie in at FF now in most games anyway
IMO we have to win against Monaghan to give ourselves a decent chance of staying up, Monaghan won't be easy beat at home though and have been a bogey team for us many times."
To be honest, I get the idea in playing Hughie inside, but I don't think he should be anywhere near the team anymore when we have a full team available. I get his leadership might be important especially with Murphy gone but just don't think he is at the required standard to play for a county competing in Division 1 (or even 2) and hasn't been for the last two years. No harm he has been a brilliant servant for us but injuries/lack of pace has caught up to him I feel.

donegalforsam11 (Donegal) - Posts: 104 - 09/02/2023 10:28:48    2457399

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Replying To KerrymanStuckInDonegal:  "Apart from Donegal's deserving win against Kerry, the last few months has been a **** show in Donegal GAA. We voted at convention that we were going back to even age groups and the central council delegate was told by the outgoing chair that he was mandated to vote in favour of even years instead of odd. Now the county board met and stuck with odd ages. Then the back pedalling started and county board claim that didnt have all the information and a new vote may be required. A joke. It's plain to see that there is a divide in Donegal GAA at the moment, and if it's left to fester it will destroy the GAA community in Donegal. Whether you are pro one side or the other makes no odds, because in the end of the day it's the young players that are going to suffer. I have heard from both sides of the arguments of what both sides are alleging of each other and a lot of it seems to be focused around money, so this is not going away anytime fast. I feared for Donegal on the pitch this year and although I got it wrong in the first game, I still have a very pessimistic feeling about the rest of the year. I hope I am wrong. But more worryingly is the state of the board at present, this infighting and back biting is going to ruin things for the future if not addressed immediately but I can't see it because to many egos involved and too much politics at play.... It would be great if the GAA was just about the sporting side of things ....."
Agree with a lot of that. I think Paul McGonigle was very honest in his assessment of Donegal GAA needing a good root and branch sorting out. Instead he lost his attempt to become county chairman and was accused of sour grapes by some people. From speaking to one or two people in the know, it was believed that Paul's planned reforms were deemed to be too radical, and that McGee was a more conservative choice.

A bit like politics in this country, the GAA consists of many, many people with big egos and inflated senses of their own importance. Rather than concentrate their efforts for the improvement of gaelic games in Donegal, they focus their efforts on political manoeuvering, sniping and generally looking after their own interests.

I think what Donegal GAA needs is the like of a CEO with a background in finance and a reputation of utmost integrity. He/she would also need to obviously have a keen interest in GAA and a knowledge of how things operate in Donegal. I realise that is a bit of a pipe dream given that he/she would need to be fairly well compensated, but also because he/she would probably need to put a fair few noses out of joint with any recommendations.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9759 - 09/02/2023 10:44:47    2457403

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Replying To peiledoir20:  "A few egos in the Academy who thinks money grows on trees."
You think every coach in the academy is willing to walk away on a whim? Your views on the coaches in your own county is mind boggling. It will all become public soon enough and the men involved will be forced to step away, and it will be for the better of everyone. I will say it again, the man who has overseen the shambles of the past few months purposely avoided the meeting the other night because he hadn't a leg to stand on once the facts were presented to him. But you keep blabbing on about money and throwing out random figures.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8384 - 09/02/2023 10:53:28    2457405

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