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Naomh Conaill v St.Eunans County final 2022
Exhibit E - ' The Sun'

ryan (Donegal) - Posts: 565 - 20/10/2022 14:30:49    2444780

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Replying To peiledoir20:  "I wasn't talking about tactics. I was talking about the dark arts of feigning injury, sledging injury etc. "Win at all costs" was mentioned. I am intrigued to know where the line is drawn in this regard?"
Who was feigning injury? The alleged sledging incident was against a Eunans player.

Scenicparish (Donegal) - Posts: 54 - 20/10/2022 15:02:56    2444794

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Replying To rorysboys:  "Ha you stil don't get it. Did I abuse any player or manager. I have too much respect for the effort they put in.. nobody answering my question about why all the big names that were named here as potential managers are not interested. Not a hard question.. as I said Donegal football is a bore at the moment."
Respect and rorysboys in the same sentence, now that gave me a good laugh.

The fact is there would have been plenty of candidates for the Donegal job, but the reality is there was a lot of money spent on the Centre of excellence and there is very little left.
Most top quality managers require a lot of money to prepare a County senior team, examples are how much the likes of kerry, dublin and mayo have spent in preparations of there serior squads.

It has nothing to do with how much talent we have as Donegal has always had talented footballers.
We were lucky with mcguinness as he had a lot of contacts with big wallets who had Donegal connections and were willing to back his project.

This argument that we haven't got the talent or its our clubs style of play is holding us back is a weak argument.

Our best players and we have plenty can adapt as they are athletes to any style of play.
They just need a management team to instill confidence in them like 2011. And focus them and turn them into men who refuse to accept defeat.
To give them drive and purpose and a winning mentality. Who would die for each other.

Our previous management team were never capable of bringing that to the table, nothing against them, they did there best. But very few have the character to turn around a team to a winning mentality that would sacrifice it all to be successful.

We have the players, we just need a genius to lead them

The keeper (Donegal) - Posts: 613 - 20/10/2022 15:06:41    2444795

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Replying To letterkennyGuy:  "Far from sour grapes lad you just haven't seen the light yet!
I used to live in that little world also (2011 onwards) and argue black and blue defending it to others outside the county but looking back now thank God i got out of it and admit the others were right!
Don't worry though you'll find your way ;)
Some day!"
As I already said a new manager can play whatever system he chooses. For the record I would love to see Rory as the next Donegal manager.

Scenicparish (Donegal) - Posts: 54 - 20/10/2022 15:07:29    2444796

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Replying To Scenicparish:  "Who was feigning injury? The alleged sledging incident was against a Eunans player."
The number 9 who went down holding his head after he was pushed in the chest.

In terms of sledging I am talking generally and not just about Glenties. Where does a player stop in terms of sledging in light of this "win at all costs mentality"? I don't care how badly a player wants to win a championship some of the stuff said by players on the field is downright deplorable. I would rather maintain some integrity than to stoop to that "win at all costs" mentality.

As someone once said if you wouldn't paint it on the side of your house you shouldn't be saying it.

peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 408 - 20/10/2022 15:31:39    2444800

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Replying To The keeper:  "Respect and rorysboys in the same sentence, now that gave me a good laugh.

The fact is there would have been plenty of candidates for the Donegal job, but the reality is there was a lot of money spent on the Centre of excellence and there is very little left.
Most top quality managers require a lot of money to prepare a County senior team, examples are how much the likes of kerry, dublin and mayo have spent in preparations of there serior squads.

It has nothing to do with how much talent we have as Donegal has always had talented footballers.
We were lucky with mcguinness as he had a lot of contacts with big wallets who had Donegal connections and were willing to back his project.

This argument that we haven't got the talent or its our clubs style of play is holding us back is a weak argument.

Our best players and we have plenty can adapt as they are athletes to any style of play.
They just need a management team to instill confidence in them like 2011. And focus them and turn them into men who refuse to accept defeat.
To give them drive and purpose and a winning mentality. Who would die for each other.

Our previous management team were never capable of bringing that to the table, nothing against them, they did there best. But very few have the character to turn around a team to a winning mentality that would sacrifice it all to be successful.

We have the players, we just need a genius to lead them"
Money shudnt come into it people like bonner do it for the good of Donegal football others are in it for what they can get out of it. Why don't you ask Jim would he be interested you seem to know a lot about him. Lol. Sure any gaa man should be glad to manage their own county.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 1865 - 20/10/2022 15:53:16    2444804

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Replying To Scenicparish:  "As I already said a new manager can play whatever system he chooses. For the record I would love to see Rory as the next Donegal manager."
Fair enough I agree but how can players play another way with the county when they don't know any other way?
It's totally ingrained in them from u14's up.
It's just a real shame and sad really that its gone to this...

letterkennyGuy (Donegal) - Posts: 141 - 20/10/2022 16:18:34    2444815

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Replying To peiledoir20:  "The number 9 who went down holding his head after he was pushed in the chest.

In terms of sledging I am talking generally and not just about Glenties. Where does a player stop in terms of sledging in light of this "win at all costs mentality"? I don't care how badly a player wants to win a championship some of the stuff said by players on the field is downright deplorable. I would rather maintain some integrity than to stoop to that "win at all costs" mentality.

As someone once said if you wouldn't paint it on the side of your house you shouldn't be saying it."
What was the difference in the player from Eunans going down from CT's shoulder? He was sledging and went down easy in my opinion. As for McKelvey he actually did get hit on the head because he got pushed into AJ's shoulder so there was contact with the head.

naomh_conaill_4 (Donegal) - Posts: 466 - 20/10/2022 16:21:22    2444817

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Replying To rorysboys:  "Money shudnt come into it people like bonner do it for the good of Donegal football others are in it for what they can get out of it. Why don't you ask Jim would he be interested you seem to know a lot about him. Lol. Sure any gaa man should be glad to manage their own county."
Why would Jim come back? He did the job and successfully so. He has way more other projects to work on I'm sure. Just glad to know Declan did it for free. Fair play to him. What a guy.

tidytownman (Donegal) - Posts: 258 - 20/10/2022 16:26:52    2444820

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Replying To Scenicparish:  "As I already said a new manager can play whatever system he chooses. For the record I would love to see Rory as the next Donegal manager."
Fair enough I agree but how can players play another way with the county when they don't know any other way?
It's totally ingrained in them from u14's up.
It's just a real shame and sad really that its gone to this...

letterkennyGuy (Donegal) - Posts: 141 - 20/10/2022 16:45:24    2444823

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Replying To naomh_conaill_4:  "What was the difference in the player from Eunans going down from CT's shoulder? He was sledging and went down easy in my opinion. As for McKelvey he actually did get hit on the head because he got pushed into AJ's shoulder so there was contact with the head."
Is that why AJ was trying to get the umpires attention so badly? To tell him that McKelvey actually grazed his head off his shoulder and SOD didn't actually make contact with his head?

peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 408 - 20/10/2022 16:49:59    2444824

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Replying To tidytownman:  "Why would Jim come back? He did the job and successfully so. He has way more other projects to work on I'm sure. Just glad to know Declan did it for free. Fair play to him. What a guy."
Why wudnt he come back he's still a young man . Who would turn down the chance to manage this talented team of ours. I find it weird that nobody wants to manage us. Must be something to do with financial situation because of convoy..

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 1865 - 20/10/2022 16:56:44    2444826

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All arguing aside great credit must go to Naomh conaill, the style of football may not be pretty but they were underdogs and will not care and are now county champions 2022. To win 3 teams at a b and c grades is also a super achievement in one year

Maguiresman (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4 - 20/10/2022 16:59:53    2444827

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Replying To peiledoir20:  "Is that why AJ was trying to get the umpires attention so badly? To tell him that McKelvey actually grazed his head off his shoulder and SOD didn't actually make contact with his head?"
Watch it back and tell me what was the Eunans player closest to the first incident doing?
While you're at it watch both goals from Eunans and look at the reaction from them, each time the players are goading and sledging the NC boys and its the same that happens when they score the point that ended up with the red. Now compare that to McGuinness's goal he roars at his teammates not the opposition.

naomh_conaill_4 (Donegal) - Posts: 466 - 20/10/2022 17:01:19    2444828

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Replying To letterkennyGuy:  "Fair enough I agree but how can players play another way with the county when they don't know any other way?
It's totally ingrained in them from u14's up.
It's just a real shame and sad really that its gone to this..."
I don't think you watch much football in the County. The current u17 championship is at the semi final stage this weekend and I've attended quite a lot of them. All the matches I have attended have been high scoring hugely entertaining matches.
I wouldn't think too much of a management team if they cannot instill their own system.

Scenicparish (Donegal) - Posts: 54 - 20/10/2022 17:36:16    2444834

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Replying To peiledoir20:  "Is that why AJ was trying to get the umpires attention so badly? To tell him that McKelvey actually grazed his head off his shoulder and SOD didn't actually make contact with his head?"
The other Eunans forward remonstrated the same way when Ciaran shouldered Mc Gettigan?

Scenicparish (Donegal) - Posts: 54 - 20/10/2022 17:39:37    2444835

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Replying To rorysboys:  "Why wudnt he come back he's still a young man . Who would turn down the chance to manage this talented team of ours. I find it weird that nobody wants to manage us. Must be something to do with financial situation because of convoy.."
Maybe he and others have other commitments. County management is a huge commitment at present.

Scenicparish (Donegal) - Posts: 54 - 20/10/2022 17:42:41    2444836

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Replying To The keeper:  "Respect and rorysboys in the same sentence, now that gave me a good laugh.

The fact is there would have been plenty of candidates for the Donegal job, but the reality is there was a lot of money spent on the Centre of excellence and there is very little left.
Most top quality managers require a lot of money to prepare a County senior team, examples are how much the likes of kerry, dublin and mayo have spent in preparations of there serior squads.

It has nothing to do with how much talent we have as Donegal has always had talented footballers.
We were lucky with mcguinness as he had a lot of contacts with big wallets who had Donegal connections and were willing to back his project.

This argument that we haven't got the talent or its our clubs style of play is holding us back is a weak argument.

Our best players and we have plenty can adapt as they are athletes to any style of play.
They just need a management team to instill confidence in them like 2011. And focus them and turn them into men who refuse to accept defeat.
To give them drive and purpose and a winning mentality. Who would die for each other.

Our previous management team were never capable of bringing that to the table, nothing against them, they did there best. But very few have the character to turn around a team to a winning mentality that would sacrifice it all to be successful.

We have the players, we just need a genius to lead them"
Will Jimmy be coming in to help out with coaching for the Ulster run? Its certainly a game changer as far as your prospects are concerned.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2739 - 20/10/2022 19:07:26    2444842

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Replying To naomh_conaill_4:  "Watch it back and tell me what was the Eunans player closest to the first incident doing?
While you're at it watch both goals from Eunans and look at the reaction from them, each time the players are goading and sledging the NC boys and its the same that happens when they score the point that ended up with the red. Now compare that to McGuinness's goal he roars at his teammates not the opposition."
Was it the 14 that got the goal for Glenties?

peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 408 - 21/10/2022 09:43:16    2444878

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Replying To panamasam:  "Will Jimmy be coming in to help out with coaching for the Ulster run? Its certainly a game changer as far as your prospects are concerned."
He was in for their county run at the end.

Tyrion (Donegal) - Posts: 136 - 21/10/2022 10:12:20    2444883

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