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They are second division teams playing against senior championship teams so they shudnt be in the junior championship.As for the junior b didn't pettigo not win that a few years ago and nobody mentioned it. Junior b is not for reserve teams only.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2404 - 13/08/2022 15:56:34    2437290

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Replying To marty234:  "Gaels and moville didn't win the junior chship that's why they are still in junior chship. You have to won it to get promoted. The leagues and chships aren't linked in dgl. All us grass root club ppl know this rule. You are out of touch roryboy with our club system. Just like you were out if touch with all the talent in our club game that you are unaware of."
For your knowledge moville have win the junior championship and there still back in junior. You would think a grass root supporter like you should know that..

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2404 - 13/08/2022 18:29:46    2437299

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Replying To rorysboys:  "For your knowledge moville have win the junior championship and there still back in junior. You would think a grass root supporter like you should know that.."
When did they win it last? Look that up Rory. Chances then were relegated back to Junior since.

You need to brush up on your grassroots.

Too much time focusing on the inter county game perhaps.

peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 801 - 13/08/2022 21:30:42    2437314

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Replying To peiledoir20:  "When did they win it last? Look that up Rory. Chances then were relegated back to Junior since.

You need to brush up on your grassroots.

Too much time focusing on the inter county game perhaps."
Point is they win it and like letterkenny Gaels should not be in junior a. Lifford we're beaten in junior b final last year so they have as much a right to be in junior b championship.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2404 - 14/08/2022 09:40:21    2437319

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I'm not sure why people continue to get into spiteful posts on here (and it's not all one poster).
Ultimately why is it such a big deal to folks if lifford play junior b. They are hardly in a good place as a club to have to do that and if they are going to take wallopings off the better junior clubs what purpose does that serve either.

Pettigo have a similar enough challenge, it's really hard for them to compete at junior and the beatings they take are hardly encouraging for a team. Winning the junior b for them was a big deal in 2018. There's a good article on donegal live about them for anyone interested.

Whether lifford should be better or not is a different point to their actual standard they are at. And for what ever reason lifford seems to be struggling with sporting participation in general with lifford celtic dropping out of soccer league this year.
And they didn't win junior b last year so it's another reason for being there again this year. I also don't know why one poster has a bee in their bonnet about putting up a few flags encourage a bit of club spirit last year. What about st eunans competing in junior a. That's not their first team so why should they be there? The answer being that it's the right level for that team.

It would seem clear that there's problems with teams fielding at reserve and even first team. I don't think it's fair to just blame the county board either. If first team players aren't turning up to training and not fulfilling fixtures that's not the county boards fault. Maybe for first team non appearance the fines need to be higher. And maybe reserve and the lower levels of junior football needs a revisit and perhaps regionalise it a bit more or maybe have the more competitive reserve teams playing in division 3 or more likely division 2 for some of them. I'm sure the county board are open to feedback on this.

Ulsterchamps_32 (Donegal) - Posts: 693 - 14/08/2022 10:37:27    2437322

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Replying To RoryGall35:  "Alright folks, hope yous are all enjoying the brilliant weather.. I have heard a wee rumour that Martin beag McHugh is considering the Job.. Have any of yous heard anything of this rumour.. Can any of our kilcar folks on here say anything or know anything.. I think it would be a very good appointment.."
I'm not against the idea of Martin McHugh as manager, but I'm also not sold that he would have the energy and drive required to compete at the very top level, well not at this stage. Perhaps if he had the right management or coaching team along with him, but I genuinely feel Martin McHugh should have taken on the U16's or Minors before going for the Senior job.

I heard that Malachy O'Rourke has had discussions with representatives of the County Board, he is interested in the job, however I didn't hear anything else to suggest any agreement had been reached.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1115 - 14/08/2022 14:36:04    2437351

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Replying To Commodore:  "I'm not against the idea of Martin McHugh as manager, but I'm also not sold that he would have the energy and drive required to compete at the very top level, well not at this stage. Perhaps if he had the right management or coaching team along with him, but I genuinely feel Martin McHugh should have taken on the U16's or Minors before going for the Senior job.

I heard that Malachy O'Rourke has had discussions with representatives of the County Board, he is interested in the job, however I didn't hear anything else to suggest any agreement had been reached."
Mc Hugh gas nothing to prove in Donegal so why would he take the minor job.
He's the best football brain in the county. He won us an Ulster against all the odds.
Definitely the best Donegal man for the job
1000% improvement on the last Donegal man.
Grab him with both hands

Breffni1969 (Cavan) - Posts: 510 - 14/08/2022 15:52:07    2437361

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Replying To Breffni1969:  "Mc Hugh gas nothing to prove in Donegal so why would he take the minor job.
He's the best football brain in the county. He won us an Ulster against all the odds.
Definitely the best Donegal man for the job
1000% improvement on the last Donegal man.
Grab him with both hands"
Best football brain in the county says who. What's his roll of honour as manager.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2404 - 14/08/2022 17:34:47    2437379

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Anyone who is wondering why the Donegal Senior team are at where they are at should have attended aodh ruadh v bundoran in the senior championship, dire stuff....low percentage, pedestrian risk averse football. In truth no different to what would have been on offer across most of the county this weekend. It was only when aodh ruadh injected some pace to their game in the second half did their dominance pay off. It was a very hard watch.

totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 916 - 14/08/2022 18:33:58    2437390

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Rumours abound re Malachy o Rourke....his football will not be a departure from the last 8 years, expect more of the same. If that's the road we are going down we should have kept Bonner!

totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 916 - 14/08/2022 18:50:31    2437394

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Replying To Breffni1969:  "Mc Hugh gas nothing to prove in Donegal so why would he take the minor job.
He's the best football brain in the county. He won us an Ulster against all the odds.
Definitely the best Donegal man for the job
1000% improvement on the last Donegal man.
Grab him with both hands"
McHugh is still living off that fluke, a one point victory in which two of cavans scores(I was a the game btw!) Ray Cunningham at least a foot wide and Larry Reilly hopping the ball twice before lofting over stood. .... He's as lucky as a cut cat! He went on to win a sigerson cup with it Sligo with half the team drawn from the length and breadth of Ireland who hadn't seen the inside of the college! The last team he managed was kilcar....where they went in as favs to win the county final but had no plan to deal with Michael Murphy, he believes the gooch is a one trick pony and describes Rory Gallagher as a football genius!!......

totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 916 - 14/08/2022 19:01:52    2437397

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Replying To totalrecall:  "Anyone who is wondering why the Donegal Senior team are at where they are at should have attended aodh ruadh v bundoran in the senior championship, dire stuff....low percentage, pedestrian risk averse football. In truth no different to what would have been on offer across most of the county this weekend. It was only when aodh ruadh injected some pace to their game in the second half did their dominance pay off. It was a very hard watch."
The easiest tactic in the world to do is go defensive and play this kind of football. It's been pretty endemic for the last few years. I'm not sure I'd have too much issue with it when you are clearly playing a better team but when you are relatively evenly matched like Bundoran and aodh ruadh then why not open it up. Also its not do or die today so no need to be so cautious. I suppose jamie brennan brennan not being available to bundoran is a big loss to them.

In fairness looking at the scores and reading some reports matches were overall better than expected. Tom comack seemed quite impressed with nc vs glenswilly with the plenty long ball used. Mccumhaills vs st michael's also seemed like a good game. There was a good score in the killbegs vs glenfin match as well. So hopefully teams will open it up a bit but we'll see.

Ulsterchamps_32 (Donegal) - Posts: 693 - 14/08/2022 19:15:41    2437399

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Replying To totalrecall:  "Rumours abound re Malachy o Rourke....his football will not be a departure from the last 8 years, expect more of the same. If that's the road we are going down we should have kept Bonner!"
I think you are forgetting the first few years of declan bonners reign. Donegal were very positive in the style of play. Even from his first league game against kerry in 18 you could see the change. In 18 and 19 they scored heavily (and conceded plenty too) but played decent football. Even in the covid year of 20 they played well up until the cavan match. Remember the trimming they gave armagh in the semi. Last year was tricky again with covid. This year things did seem to go stale.

Rory Gallagher played his usual rory ball with derry this year and it was lapped up because they won ulster and were successful again. It's pure miserable to watch though.

In saying that I wouldn't want to go back to rory ball and I'm not sure malachy o'rourke would do that. I'm not sure he's wedded to a style of play but more so has a practical approach. Before the real start of the blanket defence in 2011 he got fermanagh really close to winning their first ulster (without their best forward) in 2008 and then won two ulsters with monaghan. He had that monaghan team at some level in the 2013 ulster final. He comes across as simply being a very good manager and players seem to respect him a lot.

Ulsterchamps_32 (Donegal) - Posts: 693 - 14/08/2022 20:01:34    2437410

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Replying To totalrecall:  "McHugh is still living off that fluke, a one point victory in which two of cavans scores(I was a the game btw!) Ray Cunningham at least a foot wide and Larry Reilly hopping the ball twice before lofting over stood. .... He's as lucky as a cut cat! He went on to win a sigerson cup with it Sligo with half the team drawn from the length and breadth of Ireland who hadn't seen the inside of the college! The last team he managed was kilcar....where they went in as favs to win the county final but had no plan to deal with Michael Murphy, he believes the gooch is a one trick pony and describes Rory Gallagher as a football genius!!......"
How has the fast flowing flamboyant football been serving Leitrim lately?

peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 801 - 14/08/2022 21:32:35    2437433

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A few interesting results this weekend, not least the Glen men taking a point of the men from Glenties. I doubt anyone saw that coming given Glenswilly relegation in the league, but they always seem to lift it for Championship.

Burt the big surprise in intermediate and Junior seemed to go as expected.

Crowds seem to be healthy at games as well which is good to see.

peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 801 - 15/08/2022 10:21:56    2437464

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Replying To peiledoir20:  "How has the fast flowing flamboyant football been serving Leitrim lately?"
A Donegal exile where work took me out of the county some 30 odd years ago ya clown.....

totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 916 - 15/08/2022 16:03:59    2437530

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Replying To totalrecall:  "A Donegal exile where work took me out of the county some 30 odd years ago ya clown....."
I must must have missed the 'Hoganstand Poster Bio' feature

peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 801 - 15/08/2022 16:37:57    2437540

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Replying To rorysboys:  "For your knowledge moville have win the junior championship and there still back in junior. You would think a grass root supporter like you should know that.."
You have to win it the previous year to move out of junior roryboy. Downing win it last yearhence are intermediate this year bit they can fall back in if they get relegated again this year. Just because moville won it a number of years ago doesn't mean they move out this year. Grassroots club ppl know this Rory. But we are getting you learnt little by little lol

marty234 (Donegal) - Posts: 158 - 15/08/2022 17:06:00    2437548

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Replying To peiledoir20:  "I must must have missed the 'Hoganstand Poster Bio' feature"
A bit of respect lad to your fellow county people.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2404 - 15/08/2022 17:18:30    2437550

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Replying To totalrecall:  "Anyone who is wondering why the Donegal Senior team are at where they are at should have attended aodh ruadh v bundoran in the senior championship, dire stuff....low percentage, pedestrian risk averse football. In truth no different to what would have been on offer across most of the county this weekend. It was only when aodh ruadh injected some pace to their game in the second half did their dominance pay off. It was a very hard watch."
I was at this match myself. Your right in saying it was a hard watch, desperate stuff altogether, reminded me of the county final a few years back between Naomh Conaill v kilcar. Aodh Ruadh played 15 men behind the ball from the start and were ultra defensive, Realtnamara played with at least two forwards up. I wouldn't agree with u about Aodh Ruadh injecting pace in to the game as the reason they pulled away instead it was 3 goalkeeping errors that coughed up 1-2 that put them on their way. This type of football is a scourge throughout the county and has been on the go since McGuinness introduced it back in 2011/2012. A trade off for winning Sam but club football is still suffering

crnm (Donegal) - Posts: 100 - 15/08/2022 19:19:12    2437565

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