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Replying To galwayfball:  "While I have major issues with Galway ignoring the threat he was for the entire game I can still appreciate how fantastic it was for McCarron who has had such a run of serious injuries play the way he did yesterday.

I know theres probably several lads sitting at home with the same injuries who will be feeling a bit better about themselves and their return to play

Outstanding performance"
Very generous sentiments galwayfball and very well written.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 5619 - 14/06/2021 13:35:40    2350768

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I used to admire McManus and some of the other Monaghan forwards but I wasn't impressed with their goading of young fellas at the end of that game last Sunday, very poor form tbh.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1076 - 15/06/2021 13:27:38    2351130

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Replying To baire:  "I used to admire McManus and some of the other Monaghan forwards but I wasn't impressed with their goading of young fellas at the end of that game last Sunday, very poor form tbh."
Noticed that alright, what would you expect from an Ulster team though. They're all special, apart from Down who are the only team in Ulster who could ever play football.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1946 - 15/06/2021 13:44:52    2351137

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "Noticed that alright, what would you expect from an Ulster team though. They're all special, apart from Down who are the only team in Ulster who could ever play football."
There are and have been some great footballers in Ulster, in every province and in every county but some players are more sporting in victory than others, it's not a provincial thing. I would like to think that mature and experienced players would set a good example.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1076 - 15/06/2021 14:05:08    2351144

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Replying To baire:  "I used to admire McManus and some of the other Monaghan forwards but I wasn't impressed with their goading of young fellas at the end of that game last Sunday, very poor form tbh."
Ah sure we can all pick holes the galway players broke away before national anthem was finished suck it up fella

prideof85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 779 - 15/06/2021 15:12:00    2351167

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Replying To baire:  "
Replying To AfricanGael:  "Noticed that alright, what would you expect from an Ulster team though. They're all special, apart from Down who are the only team in Ulster who could ever play football."
There are and have been some great footballers in Ulster, in every province and in every county but some players are more sporting in victory than others, it's not a provincial thing. I would like to think that mature and experienced players would set a good example."
In my experience every county and province is different, the same as every person is different, some counties have what you would call "friendly" rivalries, others are just bitter people and there's a lot of hatred and bitterness in Ulster, believe me.

The two biggest hate filled merchants are Tyrone and Donegal, neither of which would be renowned as being able to play anything bar muck ball. With outside coaches, perhaps that will change in time.

They say the style of football a county plays can often reflect the people of the county, there may or may not be some truth in that.

Always found the Down lads to be very decent people, well spoken as well, maybe their stylish football and swagger reflects that also.

They won All-Irelands by playing football and will a smile on their faces, proper ballers those lads, not muck men.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1946 - 15/06/2021 15:15:46    2351169

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "
Replying To baire:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  "Noticed that alright, what would you expect from an Ulster team though. They're all special, apart from Down who are the only team in Ulster who could ever play football."
There are and have been some great footballers in Ulster, in every province and in every county but some players are more sporting in victory than others, it's not a provincial thing. I would like to think that mature and experienced players would set a good example."
In my experience every county and province is different, the same as every person is different, some counties have what you would call "friendly" rivalries, others are just bitter people and there's a lot of hatred and bitterness in Ulster, believe me.

The two biggest hate filled merchants are Tyrone and Donegal, neither of which would be renowned as being able to play anything bar muck ball. With outside coaches, perhaps that will change in time.

They say the style of football a county plays can often reflect the people of the county, there may or may not be some truth in that.

Always found the Down lads to be very decent people, well spoken as well, maybe their stylish football and swagger reflects that also.

They won All-Irelands by playing football and will a smile on their faces, proper ballers those lads, not muck men."]What an utterly reprehensible post.

I'm not even going to respond any further than that.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 7396 - 15/06/2021 15:50:01    2351175

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "
Replying To AfricanGael:  "[quote=baire:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  "Noticed that alright, what would you expect from an Ulster team though. They're all special, apart from Down who are the only team in Ulster who could ever play football."
There are and have been some great footballers in Ulster, in every province and in every county but some players are more sporting in victory than others, it's not a provincial thing. I would like to think that mature and experienced players would set a good example."
In my experience every county and province is different, the same as every person is different, some counties have what you would call "friendly" rivalries, others are just bitter people and there's a lot of hatred and bitterness in Ulster, believe me.

The two biggest hate filled merchants are Tyrone and Donegal, neither of which would be renowned as being able to play anything bar muck ball. With outside coaches, perhaps that will change in time.

They say the style of football a county plays can often reflect the people of the county, there may or may not be some truth in that.

Always found the Down lads to be very decent people, well spoken as well, maybe their stylish football and swagger reflects that also.

They won All-Irelands by playing football and will a smile on their faces, proper ballers those lads, not muck men."]What an utterly reprehensible post.

I'm not even going to respond any further than that."]If I was from Donegal or Tyrone, I wouldn't say anything either. I'll tell you what's utterly reprehensible, the damage both your counties done to the game of football.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1946 - 15/06/2021 16:28:30    2351188

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Aye aye aye, good man, won't somebody think of the children. Christ Almighty.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 7396 - 15/06/2021 16:41:14    2351193

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Great to see 4 Ulster teams maintain their Division one status and sleeping giants like Derry and Antrim moving up the tables. As a Monaghan man it is great to see that Conor McManus play out the twilight of his career at the top table where his talent belongs. God knows he took some abuse over the years, not always by the top teams, remember couple of years ago the Down players assault him blatantly to gain any advantage to win at all costs. If it happened on the street they would have got jail. Was probably the worst of the lot. Beat them later on that year in the qualifiers

Maybe when the whinging eventually dies down we might get some appreciation, then maybe not, some people thrive on begrudgery, especially in Ireland (parts of Africa too it would seem)
They couldn't even give us a positive mention on the Sunday game last weekend, never mind show proper highlights, like McCarrons 3 first half points. Sport is much more enjoyable when you eliminate the begrudgery out of it

mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 929 - 15/06/2021 17:04:27    2351204

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Replying To baire:  "I used to admire McManus and some of the other Monaghan forwards but I wasn't impressed with their goading of young fellas at the end of that game last Sunday, very poor form tbh."
I think the team were excited and rightly so. What exactly are you suggesting happened. I certainly don't think that Galway players can play victims in this regard. There was an incident with a Monaghan player a few years ago during an encounter between these sides & it is well known what was said to a player at the time. Despicable & reprehensible.
I know you are disappointed but imagine the delight for the Monaghan squad after being 4 points behind in the dying minutes & to push the game to extra time & win. Class.

greysoil (Monaghan) - Posts: 908 - 15/06/2021 17:15:25    2351208

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Game management is what cost Galway that match and their Div 1 status. I'd expect Galways championship to finish in the same manner as last year and if the Galway county board are truly ambitious then they should be looking at getting either Stephen Rochford or Steven O Brien in a manager next year.

Yondu (UK) - Posts: 421 - 15/06/2021 17:32:00    2351210

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "
Replying To Lockjaw:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  "[quote=baire:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  "Noticed that alright, what would you expect from an Ulster team though. They're all special, apart from Down who are the only team in Ulster who could ever play football."
There are and have been some great footballers in Ulster, in every province and in every county but some players are more sporting in victory than others, it's not a provincial thing. I would like to think that mature and experienced players would set a good example."
In my experience every county and province is different, the same as every person is different, some counties have what you would call "friendly" rivalries, others are just bitter people and there's a lot of hatred and bitterness in Ulster, believe me.

The two biggest hate filled merchants are Tyrone and Donegal, neither of which would be renowned as being able to play anything bar muck ball. With outside coaches, perhaps that will change in time.

They say the style of football a county plays can often reflect the people of the county, there may or may not be some truth in that.

Always found the Down lads to be very decent people, well spoken as well, maybe their stylish football and swagger reflects that also.

They won All-Irelands by playing football and will a smile on their faces, proper ballers those lads, not muck men."]What an utterly reprehensible post.

I'm not even going to respond any further than that."]If I was from Donegal or Tyrone, I wouldn't say anything either. I'll tell you what's utterly reprehensible, the damage both your counties done to the game of football.

"]You're posting like someone that got kicked over and back from Strabane to Lifford.

You'd wanna get over that.

Gator (Monaghan) - Posts: 216 - 15/06/2021 17:42:10    2351212

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Replying To prideof85:  "Ah sure we can all pick holes the galway players broke away before national anthem was finished suck it up fella"
The national anthem from the COVID breakers! Respect! Hilarious!

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1076 - 15/06/2021 17:53:38    2351217

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Nobody I know would begrudge Monaghan a great victory last Sunday. I also think there are plenty of positives for Galway as we integrate new players this year and next year. Galway were structurally relegated and are a top 10 team imo. Best to Monaghan this Summer.

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1509 - 15/06/2021 18:10:40    2351225

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Replying To baire:  "I used to admire McManus and some of the other Monaghan forwards but I wasn't impressed with their goading of young fellas at the end of that game last Sunday, very poor form tbh."
A lot of goading from Galway players during the game. It shouldn't happen but all teams do it unfortunately !

Shelbourne1 (Monaghan) - Posts: 260 - 15/06/2021 18:21:04    2351228

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Replying To greysoil:  "I think the team were excited and rightly so. What exactly are you suggesting happened. I certainly don't think that Galway players can play victims in this regard. There was an incident with a Monaghan player a few years ago during an encounter between these sides & it is well known what was said to a player at the time. Despicable & reprehensible.
I know you are disappointed but imagine the delight for the Monaghan squad after being 4 points behind in the dying minutes & to push the game to extra time & win. Class."
Monaghan were excited understandably at the final whistle, and fair play to them for winning it. Excitement and celebration is one thing, goading is a different animal. I don't care what county wins, if it were my own county and if I saw Galway players goading their opponents at the final whistle I'd say the same thing. My generation didn't tolerate that type of behaviour. It's hard enough for a team to deal with defeat, to deal with their own 'supporters' afterwards not to have their noses rubbed in it by their opponents at the final whistle. I don't recall that type of behaviour in the 60s or 70s.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1076 - 15/06/2021 18:37:58    2351232

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "
Replying To Lockjaw:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  "[quote=baire:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  "Noticed that alright, what would you expect from an Ulster team though. They're all special, apart from Down who are the only team in Ulster who could ever play football."
There are and have been some great footballers in Ulster, in every province and in every county but some players are more sporting in victory than others, it's not a provincial thing. I would like to think that mature and experienced players would set a good example."
In my experience every county and province is different, the same as every person is different, some counties have what you would call "friendly" rivalries, others are just bitter people and there's a lot of hatred and bitterness in Ulster, believe me.

The two biggest hate filled merchants are Tyrone and Donegal, neither of which would be renowned as being able to play anything bar muck ball. With outside coaches, perhaps that will change in time.

They say the style of football a county plays can often reflect the people of the county, there may or may not be some truth in that.

Always found the Down lads to be very decent people, well spoken as well, maybe their stylish football and swagger reflects that also.

They won All-Irelands by playing football and will a smile on their faces, proper ballers those lads, not muck men."]What an utterly reprehensible post.

I'm not even going to respond any further than that."]If I was from Donegal or Tyrone, I wouldn't say anything either. I'll tell you what's utterly reprehensible, the damage both your counties done to the game of football.

"]Just to come back to this post, and I realise I've backtracked somewhat on my earlier post in saying that I wouldn't react to what is, unquestionably a frankly ridiculous point.

But my God, whatever about an opinion on football, but to somehow conflate a view on footballing tactics to a general county wide generalisation on their people as a whole?

I don't know where you are based. You have a vague 'African Gael' persona on here. But I would suggest you take a look at the national news today and have a look at what many people in Donegal are going through at the minute with regard to their homes crumbling down around them.

Then for you to casually float the notion on here that our football teams tactics are somehow equivalent to general attitudes of the counties people as a whole?

Absolutely reprehensible as I've already said.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 7396 - 15/06/2021 19:42:45    2351243

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Replying To mhunicean_abu:  "Great to see 4 Ulster teams maintain their Division one status and sleeping giants like Derry and Antrim moving up the tables. As a Monaghan man it is great to see that Conor McManus play out the twilight of his career at the top table where his talent belongs. God knows he took some abuse over the years, not always by the top teams, remember couple of years ago the Down players assault him blatantly to gain any advantage to win at all costs. If it happened on the street they would have got jail. Was probably the worst of the lot. Beat them later on that year in the qualifiers

Maybe when the whinging eventually dies down we might get some appreciation, then maybe not, some people thrive on begrudgery, especially in Ireland (parts of Africa too it would seem)
They couldn't even give us a positive mention on the Sunday game last weekend, never mind show proper highlights, like McCarrons 3 first half points. Sport is much more enjoyable when you eliminate the begrudgery out of it"
In fairness most Galway posters have acknowledged Monaghan's victory on its own merits. The reason we lost was because we let it slip.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1780 - 15/06/2021 19:44:14    2351244

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Replying To greysoil:  "I think the team were excited and rightly so. What exactly are you suggesting happened. I certainly don't think that Galway players can play victims in this regard. There was an incident with a Monaghan player a few years ago during an encounter between these sides & it is well known what was said to a player at the time. Despicable & reprehensible.
I know you are disappointed but imagine the delight for the Monaghan squad after being 4 points behind in the dying minutes & to push the game to extra time & win. Class."
The McManus messing at the end had no impact on the result. Not nice to see though from a top established player who should know better. Unfortunately we lost it ourselves after being the better team for most of the game and i for one would not begrudge you your victory and have indeed said in other threads that Monaghan have been a very good side for nearly a decade now. I am interested in the other incident between the sides from some years ago you mentioned. Not playing the innocent but don't recall any furore between Monaghan and ourselves in games going back a long time so wondering is there any substance to that allegation?

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1780 - 15/06/2021 19:50:08    2351249

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