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Mayo V Dublin

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Replying To Gaillimh11:  "I honestly think that firstly Dublin will win and secondly the margin will be what Dublin want it to be, unfortunately. A few reasons- dubs could field a second stream team today and so first team will be well rested; not that they were tired in the first place because of no test yet. Mayo just the week to recover from a tough hard game. Although mayo like Crocker, it's still a home game for dubs; no doubt home fixture helped mayo v Donegal. Mayo scoring ratios are nearly half Dublin. Dubs have had slow enough starts against Meath and cork in particular but can blitz a team in 5-10 mins- nearly when it suits them. This is down to fitness levels- where mayo will match them near enough- but also down to their bench. They have no real injuries either. Mayo bench even if all players were fit is not great. Bar Andy moran, there is no sub there to change a game. The only reason that Dublin mite not beat mayo by 10+ points is that they won't want to show their full hand to their final opponents. That might sound unfair to mayo, don't mean it to, but sadly I think it to be true."
You don't think winning the last 4 all Ireland's has kind of taken Dublin out of the long grass ?

carlovia (None) - Posts: 1556 - 04/08/2019 21:59:15    2220894

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Replying To legendzxix:  "Mayo are labelled as the Nation's favourite. They'll be in for a difficult evening. They've bounced back from two defeats this year."
They'll be in for a difficulty evening

wins the stating the bleeding obvious award for 2019.

centerfield (Mayo) - Posts: 360 - 04/08/2019 22:27:02    2220914

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Did I say 15+? I meant 1+ :D

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8821 - 04/08/2019 22:41:49    2220922

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Replying To carlovia:  "You don't think winning the last 4 all Ireland's has kind of taken Dublin out of the long grass ?"
Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if mayo beat dublin and then lose to kerry in the final!

achara (Monaghan) - Posts: 584 - 04/08/2019 22:53:07    2220926

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I said after our game v Kerry that both teams left chances on the pitch and that that wouldn't be good enough against Dublin. The same is true of Mayo now. Unless they put in a near flawless performance going forward, getting scores from majority of chances created, they won't get near Dublin.

That's what it comes down to because I think that Mayo can match them physically, can hold the Dublin forwards to a score that can be caught and can create enough to best them. It's about being clinical and keeping the pressure ticking over on the scoreboard in my opinion.

Will Clarke come back in if fit?

JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 04/08/2019 23:00:25    2220927

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Hopefully should be a great game, dubs been in cruise control all year and with DC back in action I can't see them being stopped.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2687 - 04/08/2019 23:25:26    2220939

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Replying To realdub:  "Why who said we'd hammer them?"
Are you serious? You did! Fourth post down:

"Dublin by 15+

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 7542 - 04/08/2019 18:57:15"

Unless you don't think a 15 point margin counts as a hammering??

festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3163 - 04/08/2019 23:41:09    2220944

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Dublin will win this by 8+ if not more. Mayo put in a trojan effort to get over Donegal and with a few lads patched up I think Saturday is coming too soon for them to mount anything more than a decent 50 min effort. Dublin having rested most of their first 15 yesterday will be fresh and I think will put Mayo to the sword. As much as people will talk about Mayo's past form against us I think the turnaround time plus injuries plus miles on the clock of previous key men means talk of Dublin being beaten is based on nothing more than hope and/or nostalgia.

TrueBlue35 (Dublin) - Posts: 365 - 05/08/2019 02:38:02    2220960

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Dublin should win this fairly comfortably in the end.

Mayo were quite impressive against an underperforming Donegal team with a few players still affected by their previous knocks and in front of their home fans. But they let Donegal back into it and only win in the end because their kicking accuracy was slightly less poor than Donegal and it was still like 30%.

A full strength Dublin team in Croke Park wont be so complacent. I predict Dublin winning by 8 plus points.

Ronan1989 (Donegal) - Posts: 83 - 05/08/2019 03:12:40    2220964

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Didn't Kerry hammer Mayo?

Mayo also lost to Roscommon..

You're setting up your post Dublin victory rant well, if Dublin are good enough to win that is.

But I understand.. Kerry are allowed to hammer Mayo. Dublin doing so is the end of the GAA.

Interesting"
Didn't Donegal draw with Kerry and Mayo beat Donegal. At this stage it doesn't make any difference.

JuniorBee (Mayo) - Posts: 40 - 05/08/2019 03:52:07    2220965

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This is set up for Mayo...Dubs have yet to play a game this year with proper champo intensity and Mayo are getting injured players back and coming with momentum. If and it's a big if mayo take their chances they'll be right in it.

blacknamber (Kerry) - Posts: 267 - 05/08/2019 09:23:44    2220984

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Wouldn't surprise me if mayo beat dublin and then lose to kerry in the final!

achara (Monaghan) - Posts: 584 - 05/08/2019 09:33:28    2220985

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Mayo are just relieved to be back at this stage again.
Will bring a big crowd up for one last tilt at the greatest team ever to play football.
Doing a favor for everyone else as Dublin haven't been given a good game since they last played Mayo in the championship.
We will go up and watch our hero's go out on their shields.

There will be some grate match ups again:

Higgins v Rock
Harrison v o callaghan
Barrett v Mannion
Keegan v kilkenny
Boyle v Scully
Vaughan v Howard
Ruane v Fenton
S O Shea v Macauley
Durcan v Mccaffrey
AOS v O Sullivan
McDonagh v McCarthy
Carr v MCMahon
Moran v Fitzsimons
O Connor v Cooper

Mayo bench is not as strong but if D O Conor and T Parsons are up to it they won't be far away.

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 2052 - 05/08/2019 09:41:11    2220988

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Replying To JoeSoap:  "I said after our game v Kerry that both teams left chances on the pitch and that that wouldn't be good enough against Dublin. The same is true of Mayo now. Unless they put in a near flawless performance going forward, getting scores from majority of chances created, they won't get near Dublin.

That's what it comes down to because I think that Mayo can match them physically, can hold the Dublin forwards to a score that can be caught and can create enough to best them. It's about being clinical and keeping the pressure ticking over on the scoreboard in my opinion.

Will Clarke come back in if fit?"
I would have Clarke starting for us all day and every night, even allowing for some concerns about his restarts. Donegal won 35 per cent of Mayo's kickouts on Saturday evening, and again he almost coughed up a goal straight from a short kickout, but RH gets a pass on this from some Mayo fans, whereas Clarke would get slaughtered for a similar return.

I have never seen Clarke picked off for a goal straight from his kickout (some points admittedly) in his two decades in a Mayo jersey, which unfortunately is not something I can say about the Breaffy custodian.

Clarke is also less prone to brain farts and is much more secure under high ball and is possibly the best shot stopper in gaelic football at the mo. I don't think I've ever seen another gaelic goalie save five out of his last six pennos or whatever it is with him recently.

But I do think that Horan will stick with Robbie, he has one or two blind spots (the need for a sweeper being one of them) and the goalkeeper's position is another IMO.

Agreed that Mayo's conversion rate will not be good enough to beat the Dubs unless there's a dramatic improvement. It will be interesting to see who Horan starts at full-forward the next day- Andy had another stormer on Saturday but sometimes struggles to last the full 70 (or almost 80) minutes these days. Darren Coen gives us a physical presence on the edge of the square that we have lacked at times, even if he's not the fastest thing on two legs. He's also a very accurate shooter. Start Andy or bring him on later if the game is in the melting pot?

Decisions, decisions.

DOC and Ruane are also huge losses for us around the middle, as I would worry that we are not athletic enough there against a very mobile Dublin centre-field partnership.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 05/08/2019 10:16:19    2221001

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If Mayo can repeat their first half performance against Donegal over the 70+ minutes and take most of their scoring chances, then they will be in with a shout, otherwise it will be a comfortable victory for Dublin.

Can Mayo somehow up their scoring return? They are creating plenty of chances. Their defensive work is brilliant.

Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1951 - 05/08/2019 10:38:25    2221010

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Replying To festinog:  "Are you serious? You did! Fourth post down:

"Dublin by 15+

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 7542 - 04/08/2019 18:57:15"

Unless you don't think a 15 point margin counts as a hammering??"
I was joking lad...

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8821 - 05/08/2019 10:45:30    2221016

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Replying To achara:  "Wouldn't surprise me if mayo beat dublin and then lose to kerry in the final!"
It would surprise me greatly to be honest. Don't think Mayo are the force they were while I think the Dubs have improved.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 2090 - 05/08/2019 10:57:21    2221023

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Replying To avonali:  "It would surprise me greatly to be honest. Don't think Mayo are the force they were while I think the Dubs have improved."
There's no proof at all of dublin improving, they havn't played anyone yet

achara (Monaghan) - Posts: 584 - 05/08/2019 11:14:39    2221025

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Replying To realdub:  "I was joking lad..."
I would agree with you Dublin will win this by 12-15 points at home , Mayo had their good game against Donegal and now it's time for them to lye down . I hope I'm wrong but it's time for Aidan o'shea to do his disappearing again.

gallarus14 (Kerry) - Posts: 127 - 05/08/2019 11:27:49    2221034

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Replying To achara:  "There's no proof at all of dublin improving, they havn't played anyone yet"
If anyone is Kerry and Mayo then you're right. But they have comfortably beat the Connaught champions, the Munster runners up and last years AI runners up. So that must count for something. Mayo will be a different proposition in their second home though.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4751 - 05/08/2019 11:34:34    2221038

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