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Replying To hunting:  "The morale in the camp must be very low, we haven't won a match this year yet and by all account(no matter what team we had out)we got hammered by carlow Friday night. That trip to Ennis looking like an nightmare next weekend"
What was the score?

I've seen well beaten and hammered but with no context

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3412 - 16/02/2025 11:57:31    2591309

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "What was the score?

I've seen well beaten and hammered but with no context"
Been told 5.20 to 0.16. If true that's very disappointing.

Paull (Wexford) - Posts: 192 - 16/02/2025 12:10:06    2591312

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Replying To Paull:  "Been told 5.20 to 0.16. If true that's very disappointing."
If that is the case that would be pretty shocking regardless of what team we had out. I'd expect our under 20s to be better than that

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3412 - 16/02/2025 12:31:55    2591317

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Very worrying times does nt seem to be any positivity at all . Only hope the players decide to stand up and go out fighting . Suppose the next thing will be blame nsnagement which will be out of order . Players need to stand up now

Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 340 - 16/02/2025 13:09:35    2591324

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Replying To countyman2022:  "Yep, in the league section. They then got to final and lost on pens to Keirans who beat GCC cosily enough in the end. They knocked out GCC last year in semi final too the CBS."
GCC should've won the semifinal against CBS last year I watched that game. They beat CBS in the group stage last year also.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14978 - 16/02/2025 13:35:06    2591330

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "If that is the case that would be pretty shocking regardless of what team we had out. I'd expect our under 20s to be better than that"
I watched our u20's hurl Clare yesterday and was impressed with them, don't know the final score as had to leave before the end but it was far from a first 15 wexford team and I thought they hurled well.

What I will say is that they hurled a nice brand of hurling with a definite style and system, if I'm being brutally honest that's something for me that's been lacking in games to date I've watched our senior team, I'm not sure what we are trying to achieve most of the time.

That's a worry for me.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1450 - 16/02/2025 13:40:36    2591331

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Was talking to a big Carlow gaa man, he said Carlow went as close to full strength as they could. They view it as a good test and they were playing Kildare on saturday where they were going to give their 2nd team a chance.
He said Wexford were shocking no fight or spirit even. Chin was really rusty and Jack O COnnor and D Reck were the only lads he knew from wexford. He was talking to one of the Carlow backroom team after the game and they were so disappointed in Wexford,as they were hoping for a good run out.

hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1068 - 16/02/2025 13:48:23    2591333

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Replying To Formertownie:  "Very worrying times does nt seem to be any positivity at all . Only hope the players decide to stand up and go out fighting . Suppose the next thing will be blame nsnagement which will be out of order . Players need to stand up now"
It's up to the players to play yes, and I haven't been pleased with our attitude at all.

However, the management team need to set the players up for success. The game plan we were developing last year's league has been totally abandoned. It's not clear what we're trying to do at all.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3412 - 16/02/2025 14:34:53    2591340

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Whatever about how good these players actually are at their best and whatever about how many injuries/absentees we have at the moment, this team need to show some fight in them going forward, I can understand the bad results to some extent but it's the performances that are the major issue, we should be competing hard for 70 minutes even if we don't end up winning

Don't know what we'll do about full-back if Jippo doesn't play in the Championship, Eoin Whelan should be the heir-apparent but he must be injured as a lot of the other young players have been playing, think Conor Foley is the only other full-back option I would be ok with but that involves moving him from wing-back and it's not as if we've a huge amount of options there either (Would rather Richie Lawlor in midfield). Think Keith should try convince Gavin Bailey to join the set-up, would offer a lot of dog and physicality at wing-back/midfield and wouldn't get bullied around the place


Not to bring up our own history but when you consider "Le croí agus lámh" is written in our crest and our 1798 heritage, what we've been doing so far this season has been embarrassing to the county

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 395 - 16/02/2025 15:28:38    2591352

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "It's up to the players to play yes, and I haven't been pleased with our attitude at all.

However, the management team need to set the players up for success. The game plan we were developing last year's league has been totally abandoned. It's not clear what we're trying to do at all."
We aren't making any space inside at all.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14978 - 16/02/2025 16:18:42    2591370

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "Whatever about how good these players actually are at their best and whatever about how many injuries/absentees we have at the moment, this team need to show some fight in them going forward, I can understand the bad results to some extent but it's the performances that are the major issue, we should be competing hard for 70 minutes even if we don't end up winning

Don't know what we'll do about full-back if Jippo doesn't play in the Championship, Eoin Whelan should be the heir-apparent but he must be injured as a lot of the other young players have been playing, think Conor Foley is the only other full-back option I would be ok with but that involves moving him from wing-back and it's not as if we've a huge amount of options there either (Would rather Richie Lawlor in midfield). Think Keith should try convince Gavin Bailey to join the set-up, would offer a lot of dog and physicality at wing-back/midfield and wouldn't get bullied around the place


Not to bring up our own history but when you consider "Le croí agus lámh" is written in our crest and our 1798 heritage, what we've been doing so far this season has been embarrassing to the county"
Molloy has to be in the half back line.

It's madness he's not being used.

I agree with you about who we are as well. Some lads hate the heather blazing stuff. I don't. We're always at our best when we think we're at war. Hurling isn't a game. It's our identity. Many of our lads don't seem to understand that at the minute.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3412 - 16/02/2025 21:48:26    2591445

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "Molloy has to be in the half back line.

It's madness he's not being used.

I agree with you about who we are as well. Some lads hate the heather blazing stuff. I don't. We're always at our best when we think we're at war. Hurling isn't a game. It's our identity. Many of our lads don't seem to understand that at the minute."
Going to be honest here:

Last Saturday in the first half was a sheer and utter embarrassment considering that was on national tv, what ever about being outmatched by a better team, we showed no fight or desire and there was clearly zero game plan- it came close to the mess in Belfast last year and the year before against Westmeath and Clare in the league.

16th of February and it's a long way away but i'd not be one bit surprised if we're either missing out on a Leinster final having lost to Offaly or Antrim at home or playing for our lives again come that Kilkenny game at the end of may.

Going around in circles.

OpenStandWall (Wexford) - Posts: 203 - 16/02/2025 23:04:11    2591467

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Replying To OpenStandWall:  "Going to be honest here:

Last Saturday in the first half was a sheer and utter embarrassment considering that was on national tv, what ever about being outmatched by a better team, we showed no fight or desire and there was clearly zero game plan- it came close to the mess in Belfast last year and the year before against Westmeath and Clare in the league.

16th of February and it's a long way away but i'd not be one bit surprised if we're either missing out on a Leinster final having lost to Offaly or Antrim at home or playing for our lives again come that Kilkenny game at the end of may.

Going around in circles."
Our losing to Antrim was down to the players. After they got the turnovers and lost the couple of quick goals the lads started to panic and go long the whole time for the last 10 or so minutes.
Westmeath it was like Egan and the management told them to go for goals at halftime but we were trying to run the ball through 4 and 5 Westmeath defenders, not going to happen. Happened 8 or 9 times at least. If we had of taken our points, we would've won that game. We wouldn't have handed them the initiative.
Clare in the League was largely on the players for absolutely no intensity, bad first touch and indecisive play leading to turnovers in our own half and goals.
You would start wondering Is our sports psychologist any good, or are we using him the right way. As you say it all starts with fight and desire. You have to have the ball, to win it, to score with it.
And because we are playing so many long puckouts we aren't making any space for our inside forwards. And we don't have half forwards to win the long puckouts cleanly, and because we arent playing hard enough we arent winning any breaks. We are scoring pathetically small totals this League. Although I did have a look and most of the forwards we have been playing so far this League arent prolific for their clubs either.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14978 - 17/02/2025 07:34:20    2591487

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Replying To OpenStandWall:  "Going to be honest here:

Last Saturday in the first half was a sheer and utter embarrassment considering that was on national tv, what ever about being outmatched by a better team, we showed no fight or desire and there was clearly zero game plan- it came close to the mess in Belfast last year and the year before against Westmeath and Clare in the league.

16th of February and it's a long way away but i'd not be one bit surprised if we're either missing out on a Leinster final having lost to Offaly or Antrim at home or playing for our lives again come that Kilkenny game at the end of may.

Going around in circles."
It's hard to know what to expect to be honest.

In the past Wexford have recovered from awful leagues to have a brilliant championship.

Not too often in recent memory though. 23 kind of sticks out as just a terrible season and a similar thing seems to be happening. I hope we can turn it around but I'm struggling to see how at this moment in time.

We do need a big refresh in terms of players and they will need time to adapt at this level so we need to have some patience with Rossi.

As I've said before, we just need to see a much better attitude for the remaining games. I don't care too much if we lose, but we really need to start building a platform now.

It just shows the importance of introducing a couple of lads every year. It's trying to do too much at once that killed us in 23 and is killing us now, although I accept we don't have any other options.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3412 - 17/02/2025 09:21:50    2591504

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I like other posters have been very annoyed by our performances and the lack of fight so far this season. I dont care what time of the year it is we should not be getting hockeyed by Carlow no disrepect to Carlow. A lot of lads in the set up need to stand up and be counted over the coming weeks and months

Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 448 - 17/02/2025 09:32:13    2591506

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "Molloy has to be in the half back line.

It's madness he's not being used.

I agree with you about who we are as well. Some lads hate the heather blazing stuff. I don't. We're always at our best when we think we're at war. Hurling isn't a game. It's our identity. Many of our lads don't seem to understand that at the minute."
He's more a wing back than Charlie Richie or Cathal anyway he's surely a more natural defender than the last 2 named anyway!!! You'd wonder what's goin on in there really,I think the team picks itself when everyone is available,weather it's good enough I don't know but surely a bit better than it is now!!! I can't be any worse,if the score and result of Carlow game is true well we are in bother,I still think we have enough for Antrim if attitudes right which will be a good start for a change!!! I would be very weary about the remainder of games I'd only be hopeful of getting a result to be honest!!! Think we are where are and that's it!!! Just into a cycle now where we have big work on to try get back competitive and all this has to come from the players!!! Management can't really do anymore I think!!! Long road ahead

theboys (Wexford) - Posts: 253 - 17/02/2025 09:39:56    2591507

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "It's hard to know what to expect to be honest.

In the past Wexford have recovered from awful leagues to have a brilliant championship.

Not too often in recent memory though. 23 kind of sticks out as just a terrible season and a similar thing seems to be happening. I hope we can turn it around but I'm struggling to see how at this moment in time.

We do need a big refresh in terms of players and they will need time to adapt at this level so we need to have some patience with Rossi.

As I've said before, we just need to see a much better attitude for the remaining games. I don't care too much if we lose, but we really need to start building a platform now.

It just shows the importance of introducing a couple of lads every year. It's trying to do too much at once that killed us in 23 and is killing us now, although I accept we don't have any other options."
Some of the lads are around now since 22/23 and still aren't good enough.
Another problem we have is our leaders, while great examples on the pitch when in good form, aren't in any way vocal. Lee Chin hardly said boo the whole second half against Westmeath in 23, none of the Senior lads did.
We just don't seem to be producing enough dogs these days. Dogs as in bark as well as bite.
From reading up and watching old films/matches from the only 2 and a bit decades we were truly competitive, the early/mid 50s until the early/mid 70s, it's very noticeable how hard alot of the players were. Same with Limericks 30s team, Tipps great 60s team, Kilkenny and Cork in the 70s, Galway in the 80s, Kilkenny in the 00s, Tipp in the 10s and the current Limerick and Clare teams. Some of those teams are/were borderline dirty. We just don't seem to have that since then, except maybe the early/mid 90s, and I think it's something that's held us back in a big way.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14978 - 17/02/2025 10:10:20    2591522

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Our season hangs off the back of what happens in Ennis next weekend. Don't care if we end up with 13 men on the pitch, we simply have to go down fighting if nothing else. Three woeful defeats so far. Sure we have injuries, so does every other team it looks like, but no heart is unacceptable. A clear game plan, no more nonsense selections like Donohue at 3, Dunbar 5, Reck 6 - we can't be as bad as we looked v KK.

Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 367 - 17/02/2025 11:29:55    2591539

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Replying To Viking66:  "Some of the lads are around now since 22/23 and still aren't good enough.
Another problem we have is our leaders, while great examples on the pitch when in good form, aren't in any way vocal. Lee Chin hardly said boo the whole second half against Westmeath in 23, none of the Senior lads did.
We just don't seem to be producing enough dogs these days. Dogs as in bark as well as bite.
From reading up and watching old films/matches from the only 2 and a bit decades we were truly competitive, the early/mid 50s until the early/mid 70s, it's very noticeable how hard alot of the players were. Same with Limericks 30s team, Tipps great 60s team, Kilkenny and Cork in the 70s, Galway in the 80s, Kilkenny in the 00s, Tipp in the 10s and the current Limerick and Clare teams. Some of those teams are/were borderline dirty. We just don't seem to have that since then, except maybe the early/mid 90s, and I think it's something that's held us back in a big way."
To be fair I'd say we were very competitive since the 50s

50s is obviously our defining era
60s we won 2 all Irelands
70s beaten in two finals
Late 80s through to 93 we weren't extremely unlikely but there or thereabouts
Early 00s competitive again without winning much

What I will say is we're much better placed to recover now than during the Colm Bonner era which is by far our worst since the 50s

I get the point you're making though. Past players from other counties in those eras would always refer to Wexford as being hardy and we are certainly lacking that at the moment which kind of brings me back to considering who we actually are as a people.

I think we've lost our way a bit.

The great Micheal o m made a remark in an article one time talking about Wexford. He said "daring to challenge and relishing the effort". That to me is Wexford, and a hallmark of all good Wexford teams. We don't care what medals you have, we're going to out fight you.

I recall 2023 when we had acdc and the greatest showman playing in the park just thinking "what is this nonsense?" . For the relegation game they went back to boolavogue and you could feel a totally different atmosphere.

It might seem trivial but that stuff is really important and I think we need to be leaning into it as much as possible.

Griffin understand it as he's so often quoted saying the 96 team were "playing for a way of life".

That was what we needed, bringing it all back home. What we needed to be who we were again.

It may also be sport, but it's origins of training warriors for battle and preserving our national identity at a time when a world power was actively trying to bury it should never ever be forgotten, especially in Wexford.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3412 - 17/02/2025 11:57:31    2591548

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "To be fair I'd say we were very competitive since the 50s

50s is obviously our defining era
60s we won 2 all Irelands
70s beaten in two finals
Late 80s through to 93 we weren't extremely unlikely but there or thereabouts
Early 00s competitive again without winning much

What I will say is we're much better placed to recover now than during the Colm Bonner era which is by far our worst since the 50s

I get the point you're making though. Past players from other counties in those eras would always refer to Wexford as being hardy and we are certainly lacking that at the moment which kind of brings me back to considering who we actually are as a people.

I think we've lost our way a bit.

The great Micheal o m made a remark in an article one time talking about Wexford. He said "daring to challenge and relishing the effort". That to me is Wexford, and a hallmark of all good Wexford teams. We don't care what medals you have, we're going to out fight you.

I recall 2023 when we had acdc and the greatest showman playing in the park just thinking "what is this nonsense?" . For the relegation game they went back to boolavogue and you could feel a totally different atmosphere.

It might seem trivial but that stuff is really important and I think we need to be leaning into it as much as possible.

Griffin understand it as he's so often quoted saying the 96 team were "playing for a way of life".

That was what we needed, bringing it all back home. What we needed to be who we were again.

It may also be sport, but it's origins of training warriors for battle and preserving our national identity at a time when a world power was actively trying to bury it should never ever be forgotten, especially in Wexford."
We have 4 Leinster titles in 48 years. That unfortunately, is not competitive. Standards and realizations of some people are so low.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 779 - 17/02/2025 12:48:31    2591555

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