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Replying To baire:  "Rest assured Viking, when the Galway team is picked, it won't be for you!"
Of course. Who else on Tommyk's list would you describe as an automatic starter?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13746 - 30/01/2024 12:28:47    2523281

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Replying To tommy k:  "Don't know how you got that idea. Conor Cooney has been a regular on the team for about 12 years now and even though he may not have performed too consistently in a Galway jersey since 2017 is still probably the best club forward in Galway. Shane Cooney was also on the Galway team before a series of injuries a few years ago but is getting back to full health / form now so he will be in the shake-up for a centre-back spot. Kevin Cooney has been on the Galway panel a few years now and progressed a good degree last year to become a regular. Joe Cooney was an excellent hurler from the 80's / 90's - one of his sons is called Joseph."
Joe is short for Joseph. Its possible all those lads you list could have good Leagues and be automatic starters come championship. But Joe or Joseph is the only one I think right now definitely will be once he's not injured. You have plenty of other very good lads who could have good Leagues and displace the other lads on your list. Compared to us you have an abundance of riches right now.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13746 - 30/01/2024 12:32:30    2523283

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Replying To Viking66:  "Joe is short for Joseph. Its possible all those lads you list could have good Leagues and be automatic starters come championship. But Joe or Joseph is the only one I think right now definitely will be once he's not injured. You have plenty of other very good lads who could have good Leagues and displace the other lads on your list. Compared to us you have an abundance of riches right now."
Joseph is what he is usually called to distinguish him from Joe and you know that! After Wexford's great performance at the weekend and as you already stated above with all your regulars still to come back for ye, it looks like ye are in a much stronger position going into the championship at this juncture.

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3470 - 30/01/2024 13:11:35    2523295

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Replying To Viking66:  "Of course. Who else on Tommyk's list would you describe as an automatic starter?"
A lot will depend on who is available and injury free.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1849 - 30/01/2024 13:27:30    2523301

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Replying To baire:  "A lot will depend on who is available and injury free."
Of course. Especially with the condensed season.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13746 - 30/01/2024 13:56:31    2523312

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Replying To Viking66:  "Joe is short for Joseph. Its possible all those lads you list could have good Leagues and be automatic starters come championship. But Joe or Joseph is the only one I think right now definitely will be once he's not injured. You have plenty of other very good lads who could have good Leagues and displace the other lads on your list. Compared to us you have an abundance of riches right now."
As you said in an earlier post Rory O Connor, Dee O Keefe, Matthew O Hanlon, Liam Ryan, Shane Reck, Conor Devitt, Mikie Dwyer and MacDonald are to come back for Wexford so ye are in a much stronger position than us at this juncture.

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3470 - 30/01/2024 14:09:25    2523316

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Replying To tommy k:  "As you said in an earlier post Rory O Connor, Dee O Keefe, Matthew O Hanlon, Liam Ryan, Shane Reck, Conor Devitt, Mikie Dwyer and MacDonald are to come back for Wexford so ye are in a much stronger position than us at this juncture."
You still have a core of lads who have a celtic cross and should have more. We don't have that.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13746 - 30/01/2024 18:30:36    2523368

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Replying To Viking66:  "You still have a core of lads who have a celtic cross and should have more. We don't have that."
That celtic cross was from 7 years ago now viking so that is all water well under the bridge at this stage and the players still involved are 7 years older which makes a big difference in today's game of mainly younger, stronger, fitter players.

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3470 - 30/01/2024 19:54:59    2523387

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Replying To tommy k:  "That celtic cross was from 7 years ago now viking so that is all water well under the bridge at this stage and the players still involved are 7 years older which makes a big difference in today's game of mainly younger, stronger, fitter players."
I'm expecting Collins to have a big season for you. Concannon also. Whelan, the 2 Mannions, Joseph Cooney, David and Daithi Burke are still as good as, if not better than any hurlers playing for any other county. Niland has started adding points from play to his game and is as good on frees as any other freetaker and better than some. You probably have 40 other very good lads in around your team. You only need around 12 or 15 of these to step up in a big way on the big stage. Maybe you have too many could be a problem. If you are looking to get gametime into a dozen lads in 5 League games its tricky. Getting League time into 36 means each only gets a third of the time on the pitch on average.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13746 - 30/01/2024 21:10:49    2523400

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Replying To tommy k:  "Joseph is what he is usually called to distinguish him from Joe and you know that! After Wexford's great performance at the weekend and as you already stated above with all your regulars still to come back for ye, it looks like ye are in a much stronger position going into the championship at this juncture."
Listening to Skehill on the podcast while I'm getting breakfast and he was discussing Kevin Cooney. He called Joseph Joe!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13746 - 31/01/2024 07:08:07    2523421

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Replying To Viking66:  "I'm expecting Collins to have a big season for you. Concannon also. Whelan, the 2 Mannions, Joseph Cooney, David and Daithi Burke are still as good as, if not better than any hurlers playing for any other county. Niland has started adding points from play to his game and is as good on frees as any other freetaker and better than some. You probably have 40 other very good lads in around your team. You only need around 12 or 15 of these to step up in a big way on the big stage. Maybe you have too many could be a problem. If you are looking to get gametime into a dozen lads in 5 League games its tricky. Getting League time into 36 means each only gets a third of the time on the pitch on average."
With all the Wexford regulars to come back as you stated earlier allied to yere great win in the Walsh Cup surely its Wexford's year this year!

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3470 - 31/01/2024 10:13:57    2523439

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https://galwaybayfm.ie/sports/galway-hurlers-beaten-in-walsh-cup-final-report-and-reaction/
Some reaction from the Galway camp and media. Cyril reckoned we had a much stronger team out but we had 8 lads starting who have never started a Senior championship game, and 3 more who have started around 5 between them!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 10842 - 29/01/2024 07:18:25 2522891

Over on the Wexford page you posted the above Viking after the Walsh Cup final so you must be confident with all those new lads and the regulars to come back that Wexford will do well this year!

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3470 - 31/01/2024 10:22:28    2523440

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If Offaly get themselves back up to the top level, and ourselves and Dublin can get our act together, maybe call their bluff and tell them to get on their horse and head back out into the West if that's going to be their attitude.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 10842 - 27/01/2024 16:55:19 2522414

This is another one of your posts on the Wexford page Viking so obviously you have a very poor opinion of the Galway hurlers! lol

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3470 - 31/01/2024 10:38:40    2523442

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Replying To tommy k:  "https://galwaybayfm.ie/sports/galway-hurlers-beaten-in-walsh-cup-final-report-and-reaction/
Some reaction from the Galway camp and media. Cyril reckoned we had a much stronger team out but we had 8 lads starting who have never started a Senior championship game, and 3 more who have started around 5 between them!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 10842 - 29/01/2024 07:18:25 2522891

Over on the Wexford page you posted the above Viking after the Walsh Cup final so you must be confident with all those new lads and the regulars to come back that Wexford will do well this year!"
Tommy in fairness that was the Walsh Cup. And who is to say all those lads will come back? In Salthill last year we were missing Reck and Chin, Kevin Foley and Jacko didn't start either. Noone knows who will be uninjured or even in good form come championship at this stage. Obviously if everyone is fully fit I would be hoping that we might win Leinster. We won it in 2019 and maybe should have won it in 2021. Realistically everyone isn't going to be fully fit so I would be very happy with making a Leinster final, and happy enough if we finish 3rd. A few wins in the Walsh Cup isn't going to make any difference come May, although if the lads who played well in it keep playing well in the League, and getting results, then that's going to be a massive bonus for us come championship. But it's impossible to say if they will or not at this stage.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13746 - 31/01/2024 10:41:30    2523445

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Replying To tommy k:  "If Offaly get themselves back up to the top level, and ourselves and Dublin can get our act together, maybe call their bluff and tell them to get on their horse and head back out into the West if that's going to be their attitude.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 10842 - 27/01/2024 16:55:19 2522414

This is another one of your posts on the Wexford page Viking so obviously you have a very poor opinion of the Galway hurlers! lol"
No there's absolutely nothing wrong with the Galway hurlers or Galway people in general. Or most of their supporters either for that matter. Some of the Galway posters on this forum would whinge for the country though. If some Galway supporters aren't happy travelling to venues in another province to play that Provinces provincial games they don't have to go. There were very few Galway supporters in Portlaoise for the Walsh Cup Final in 2021 and that's only 62km from the Galway border. The Walsh Cup is a fundraising competition for the players at the end of the day and therefore maximising the crowd at the fixtures has to be considered too.
There was even 1 lad on this complaining how far he had to travel within Galway before he got to the county border FFS. The size of county Galway is surely not the fault of the Leinster Council.
If the shoe was on the other foot and Wexford had joined Galway in a Connacht championship and we all started whinging about travelling to Connacht to play in Connacht competitions I'm sure you would find that irritating also.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13746 - 31/01/2024 11:48:36    2523461

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Replying To Viking66:  "No there's absolutely nothing wrong with the Galway hurlers or Galway people in general. Or most of their supporters either for that matter. Some of the Galway posters on this forum would whinge for the country though. If some Galway supporters aren't happy travelling to venues in another province to play that Provinces provincial games they don't have to go. There were very few Galway supporters in Portlaoise for the Walsh Cup Final in 2021 and that's only 62km from the Galway border. The Walsh Cup is a fundraising competition for the players at the end of the day and therefore maximising the crowd at the fixtures has to be considered too.
There was even 1 lad on this complaining how far he had to travel within Galway before he got to the county border FFS. The size of county Galway is surely not the fault of the Leinster Council.
If the shoe was on the other foot and Wexford had joined Galway in a Connacht championship and we all started whinging about travelling to Connacht to play in Connacht competitions I'm sure you would find that irritating also."
2020 Walsh cup final sorry

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13746 - 31/01/2024 11:50:08    2523462

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Replying To Viking66:  "No there's absolutely nothing wrong with the Galway hurlers or Galway people in general. Or most of their supporters either for that matter. Some of the Galway posters on this forum would whinge for the country though. If some Galway supporters aren't happy travelling to venues in another province to play that Provinces provincial games they don't have to go. There were very few Galway supporters in Portlaoise for the Walsh Cup Final in 2021 and that's only 62km from the Galway border. The Walsh Cup is a fundraising competition for the players at the end of the day and therefore maximising the crowd at the fixtures has to be considered too.
There was even 1 lad on this complaining how far he had to travel within Galway before he got to the county border FFS. The size of county Galway is surely not the fault of the Leinster Council.
If the shoe was on the other foot and Wexford had joined Galway in a Connacht championship and we all started whinging about travelling to Connacht to play in Connacht competitions I'm sure you would find that irritating also."
If Wexford were to join Connacht and play Galway 10
times I would hope that 5 of the matches would be in Galway and 5 in Wexford OR the 10 matches would be at some neutral halfway point. I would hope for this for the sake of fairness, the fans of both counties, and the well being of the game of hurling. To me this highlights that it is well time to get rid of the UNEVEN provincial system. You have 4 Provinces that are unequal in size, number of counties, quality of hurling, etc so why stick with it? And this is coming from a guy that loves Tradition and loves the Munster Hurling Final and misses the days of when Offaly and Wexford hurling was Top Notch, etc.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2257 - 31/01/2024 15:16:46    2523523

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Replying To Trump2020:  "If Wexford were to join Connacht and play Galway 10
times I would hope that 5 of the matches would be in Galway and 5 in Wexford OR the 10 matches would be at some neutral halfway point. I would hope for this for the sake of fairness, the fans of both counties, and the well being of the game of hurling. To me this highlights that it is well time to get rid of the UNEVEN provincial system. You have 4 Provinces that are unequal in size, number of counties, quality of hurling, etc so why stick with it? And this is coming from a guy that loves Tradition and loves the Munster Hurling Final and misses the days of when Offaly and Wexford hurling was Top Notch, etc."
I agree. While I wasn't really into the idea of Galway joining Leinster as I felt Wexford and Offaly should have got their xxxx together to make Leinster competitive again, I said at the time that if you were coming in it should be at every grade, and that you should have home games and away games. These days fixtures are pretty fairly organised. The last Walsh Cup final was in Portlaoise, marginally closer to Galway, and this one was in Carlow, which is closer to Wexford. The reason for it being in Carlow was probably to try get more people go to the game. If the game was in Salthill it would likely have had a smaller attendance than it did have. The Galway public don't have much interest in Leinster competitions and why would they? They don't live in Leinster.
Young lads around here dream of winning a Leinster title. They are born and bred in Leinster. It means something to them. Obviously the holy grail is an AI. But there are no intercounty players on our panel now that can remember the last time we won one of those.
Now last year was a disaster like 2021 was for yourselves. And 2020 a non event with covid. But apart from that since 2018 we have been pretty competitive. We won Leinster in 2019. Probably should've won the AI that year. Probably should've won Leinster again in 2021. And should've reached another AISF in 2022. But we were very close. We were competitive. In our last 13 Senior games against Kilkenny we have only lost once in 70 minutes and once more after extra time. We have won 9 and drawn 2. In our last 6 Senior games against yourselves since 2018 excluding our no show year in 2023 and your no show year in 2021 we have won 2, drawn 2 and lost 2. If you include last weekend and last year then we have won 3, drawn 2 and lost 4. Pretty even. Our record against Dublin is pretty similar. Sadly our record against Westmeath is also pretty even, except in championship where we haven't beaten them since 2018 I think. As usual at this time of year I'm hopeful, if not quite optimistic. Pretty much the same as I've been every year for over 30 years;-)

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13746 - 31/01/2024 16:11:41    2523542

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Replying To Trump2020:  "If Wexford were to join Connacht and play Galway 10
times I would hope that 5 of the matches would be in Galway and 5 in Wexford OR the 10 matches would be at some neutral halfway point. I would hope for this for the sake of fairness, the fans of both counties, and the well being of the game of hurling. To me this highlights that it is well time to get rid of the UNEVEN provincial system. You have 4 Provinces that are unequal in size, number of counties, quality of hurling, etc so why stick with it? And this is coming from a guy that loves Tradition and loves the Munster Hurling Final and misses the days of when Offaly and Wexford hurling was Top Notch, etc."
Agree totally. Munster and Leinster could still hold onto their traditional knock-out championships and Wexford could go back to their traditional love-in with the cats!
Asking Antrim or Galway hurlers to burst their guts to win a Leinster championship is disrespectful and shows a lack of understanding and empathy for two counties whose loyalty/affinity is with their their own province. The patronising that comes from some Munster and Leinster supporters - with the emphasis on some - more or less saying that Galway should be grateful and humble, if not subservient, to their 'generosity' - it's galling to say the least. I was annoyed with the Galway county board at the time who hadn't the courage to put it up to the Leinster council - change the name to reflect the new reality or else let the cats win another 11 AIs in a row!

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1849 - 31/01/2024 17:13:26    2523554

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Replying To baire:  "Agree totally. Munster and Leinster could still hold onto their traditional knock-out championships and Wexford could go back to their traditional love-in with the cats!
Asking Antrim or Galway hurlers to burst their guts to win a Leinster championship is disrespectful and shows a lack of understanding and empathy for two counties whose loyalty/affinity is with their their own province. The patronising that comes from some Munster and Leinster supporters - with the emphasis on some - more or less saying that Galway should be grateful and humble, if not subservient, to their 'generosity' - it's galling to say the least. I was annoyed with the Galway county board at the time who hadn't the courage to put it up to the Leinster council - change the name to reflect the new reality or else let the cats win another 11 AIs in a row!"
Just playing devil's advocate here...but if it was the traditional format where we couldn't play Kilkenny until the final, then considering we've played them 23 times in the last 7 years and only lost once we'd be going for our 8th consecutive Leinster title this year....no there's a nice thought before going to bed:)

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3125 - 31/01/2024 22:49:40    2523596

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