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Replying To baire:  "Agree totally. Munster and Leinster could still hold onto their traditional knock-out championships and Wexford could go back to their traditional love-in with the cats!
Asking Antrim or Galway hurlers to burst their guts to win a Leinster championship is disrespectful and shows a lack of understanding and empathy for two counties whose loyalty/affinity is with their their own province. The patronising that comes from some Munster and Leinster supporters - with the emphasis on some - more or less saying that Galway should be grateful and humble, if not subservient, to their 'generosity' - it's galling to say the least. I was annoyed with the Galway county board at the time who hadn't the courage to put it up to the Leinster council - change the name to reflect the new reality or else let the cats win another 11 AIs in a row!"
You haven't stopped them winning an all ireland in many years Baire. You havent even won Leinster since 2018.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13754 - 31/01/2024 22:52:06    2523597

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Replying To Viking66:  "You haven't stopped them winning an all ireland in many years Baire. You havent even won Leinster since 2018."
So there you go Viking - you really do not think much of Galway hurlers this year or other years! Wexford haven't set the world alight for 28 years or so either and 28 years before that even! lol

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3470 - 31/01/2024 23:44:12    2523602

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Replying To Viking66:  "You haven't stopped them winning an all ireland in many years Baire. You havent even won Leinster since 2018."
Galway were always inferior to Kilkenny at senior inter county level.

Last years Leinster final summed up Galway's fragile inferior complex at the mercy of the cats.

Past hurler (None) - Posts: 797 - 01/02/2024 01:16:46    2523605

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Replying To tommy k:  "So there you go Viking - you really do not think much of Galway hurlers this year or other years! Wexford haven't set the world alight for 28 years or so either and 28 years before that even! lol"
Firstly that post was in response to a bizarre post from Baire, who seems to think you have arrived like messiahs to save the Leinster championship and seems to believe there are only 2 teams in the Leinster championship race. Fact is you have only reached 3 out of the last 5 Leinster finals, winning none, and in one of those years you didn't get out of Leinster and in another you didn't win a single championship game and lost the ones you lost pretty badly.
Secondly I think your hurlers are better than they think they are. Skill isn't the issue as regards your lack of success.
Thirdly no we haven't set the world alight but we know who we are and what playing resources we have. We certainly don't have the arrogance that some of your lads have. You'd swear reading some of the "leinster is a 2 horse race" stuff out of some Galway fans that your lads were winning stuff every year. Truth is you have won 2 Walsh Cups and half a League in the last 5 years. That's all. Same as us in Walsh Cups and 1 more than Dublin. You haven't even won a Leinster let alone an AI.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13754 - 01/02/2024 07:50:52    2523608

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Replying To tommy k:  "So there you go Viking - you really do not think much of Galway hurlers this year or other years! Wexford haven't set the world alight for 28 years or so either and 28 years before that even! lol"
Tommy I'll put it this way. I'm probably older than you but I'll tell you what it's been like being a Wexford supporter since the early 90s. It probably will sound pretty familiar to you being a Galway fan. In that time we have had probably 3 goodish teams. We have only won 4 Leinsters, and 1 AI. In most of the big games we have nearly won I had a bad feeling deep down that we would blow it again. Even the 5 things we won 4 of them I had that feeling. The only 2 things we won that I felt we were going to win from a good way out were the Leinsters in 96 and 04, but in 04 I thought we were going to lose the SF. Every other big game we have lost over that time, even the games we were ahead with 10 minutes to go, I had that bad feeing we would blow it. And we did. Often. As a neutral I often find myself shouting for Galway. Pretty much against anyone except ourselves obviously and Limerick. There were numerous occasions where you blew it. Just like us. The one occasion when you didn't I still remember clearly sitting here, when Canning nailed that point against Tipp. In all probability had you been playing someone else other than Waterford, who for most of the time I'm following hurling have been like our 2 teams, likely you would've found a way of losing the 1 AI you have won in my time. And I'm not running you down saying that, as in all likelihood had we not been playing Limerick in 96, who back then were also like yourselves and ourselves, we probably would've done the same.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13754 - 01/02/2024 08:12:05    2523610

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Should be a turkey shoot in Pearse Stadium on Saturday so would expect plenty of changes again to team that played last week. Also have to bear in mind University Galway will have a knockout Fitzgibbon game midweek next week so a few of their key players might be rested.

Good game in Ballinasloe on Sunday with the schools final between the Pres and Raphaels. Hard to see Pres beaten with Niland on show.

galway19 (Galway) - Posts: 790 - 01/02/2024 08:32:51    2523614

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Replying To galway19:  "Should be a turkey shoot in Pearse Stadium on Saturday so would expect plenty of changes again to team that played last week. Also have to bear in mind University Galway will have a knockout Fitzgibbon game midweek next week so a few of their key players might be rested.

Good game in Ballinasloe on Sunday with the schools final between the Pres and Raphaels. Hard to see Pres beaten with Niland on show."
Gort gave them a good match. 2 points short. Sigh.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2257 - 01/02/2024 08:39:40    2523615

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Replying To Viking66:  "Firstly that post was in response to a bizarre post from Baire, who seems to think you have arrived like messiahs to save the Leinster championship and seems to believe there are only 2 teams in the Leinster championship race. Fact is you have only reached 3 out of the last 5 Leinster finals, winning none, and in one of those years you didn't get out of Leinster and in another you didn't win a single championship game and lost the ones you lost pretty badly.
Secondly I think your hurlers are better than they think they are. Skill isn't the issue as regards your lack of success.
Thirdly no we haven't set the world alight but we know who we are and what playing resources we have. We certainly don't have the arrogance that some of your lads have. You'd swear reading some of the "leinster is a 2 horse race" stuff out of some Galway fans that your lads were winning stuff every year. Truth is you have won 2 Walsh Cups and half a League in the last 5 years. That's all. Same as us in Walsh Cups and 1 more than Dublin. You haven't even won a Leinster let alone an AI."
That's nonsense Viking and you know it. You're deliberately avoiding the issue i.e that a Connacht or Ulster team should not be asked to play in a competition called the Leinster championship, out of respect for both the Leinster teams and the other provincial teams. The provincial system as has been stated many times, in both codes, is lopsided and unfair. If the GAA ever decide to change the system I'm sure we'll still see the same top four teams winning most of the AIs but at least we'd all be playing on a more level playing field.
BTW, I meant to write 11 Leinsters in a row not AIs, obviously.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1849 - 01/02/2024 09:27:25    2523621

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "Just playing devil's advocate here...but if it was the traditional format where we couldn't play Kilkenny until the final, then considering we've played them 23 times in the last 7 years and only lost once we'd be going for our 8th consecutive Leinster title this year....no there's a nice thought before going to bed:)"
There you go! A competition called the Leinster championship should be true to its name and involve Leinster teams only!

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1849 - 01/02/2024 10:00:40    2523627

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Replying To Viking66:  "Firstly that post was in response to a bizarre post from Baire, who seems to think you have arrived like messiahs to save the Leinster championship and seems to believe there are only 2 teams in the Leinster championship race. Fact is you have only reached 3 out of the last 5 Leinster finals, winning none, and in one of those years you didn't get out of Leinster and in another you didn't win a single championship game and lost the ones you lost pretty badly.
Secondly I think your hurlers are better than they think they are. Skill isn't the issue as regards your lack of success.
Thirdly no we haven't set the world alight but we know who we are and what playing resources we have. We certainly don't have the arrogance that some of your lads have. You'd swear reading some of the "leinster is a 2 horse race" stuff out of some Galway fans that your lads were winning stuff every year. Truth is you have won 2 Walsh Cups and half a League in the last 5 years. That's all. Same as us in Walsh Cups and 1 more than Dublin. You haven't even won a Leinster let alone an AI."
Viking I agree with you that Galway have not been that good in recent years but have been to the last 4 in most of the last 5 seasons after 2017 / 18 which is more than Wexford have done. You keep saying Galway have a lot of good players to come back etc. and then in the next sentence you say that they have won nothing of note. Many of them still have a celtic cross as you also stated earlier so if they did no other hurling from here on in, its still more than the vast majority of hurlers / hurling teams have including Wexford!

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3470 - 01/02/2024 10:07:03    2523628

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Replying To Trump2020:  "Gort gave them a good match. 2 points short. Sigh."
In the junior final, yes Gort should have beaten them although not sure how strong that Athenry team is. Callanan at centre forward on that Gort team will probably be the main player for the minor county team this year. This Pres senior team should have Niland, Jason Rabbitte, Sean Murphy, Michael Fallon and the Counihan lads down the spine. They have a lot of their team that lost to Kieran's in the all ireland final last year.

galway19 (Galway) - Posts: 790 - 01/02/2024 10:13:26    2523629

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Replying To Viking66:  "Firstly that post was in response to a bizarre post from Baire, who seems to think you have arrived like messiahs to save the Leinster championship and seems to believe there are only 2 teams in the Leinster championship race. Fact is you have only reached 3 out of the last 5 Leinster finals, winning none, and in one of those years you didn't get out of Leinster and in another you didn't win a single championship game and lost the ones you lost pretty badly.
Secondly I think your hurlers are better than they think they are. Skill isn't the issue as regards your lack of success.
Thirdly no we haven't set the world alight but we know who we are and what playing resources we have. We certainly don't have the arrogance that some of your lads have. You'd swear reading some of the "leinster is a 2 horse race" stuff out of some Galway fans that your lads were winning stuff every year. Truth is you have won 2 Walsh Cups and half a League in the last 5 years. That's all. Same as us in Walsh Cups and 1 more than Dublin. You haven't even won a Leinster let alone an AI."
Sorry Viking but there seems to be some contradictions in your post above you might explain. First you say "I think your hurlers are better than they think they are" and then you say "We certainly don't have the arrogance that some of your lads have". Are you talking about the hurlers or supporters in your second sentence because if its the hurlers that contradicts your first sentence? I don't agree with your sentiments regardless as its the media that build up Galway hurlers each year and not the supporters based on minor success etc. The Galway supporters are probably the team's harshest critics you will find if you read this forum or others when Galway lose to a team that they should be beating on paper at least.

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3470 - 01/02/2024 10:16:04    2523630

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Replying To baire:  "That's nonsense Viking and you know it. You're deliberately avoiding the issue i.e that a Connacht or Ulster team should not be asked to play in a competition called the Leinster championship, out of respect for both the Leinster teams and the other provincial teams. The provincial system as has been stated many times, in both codes, is lopsided and unfair. If the GAA ever decide to change the system I'm sure we'll still see the same top four teams winning most of the AIs but at least we'd all be playing on a more level playing field.
BTW, I meant to write 11 Leinsters in a row not AIs, obviously."
The most Leinsters they ever won in a row is 7 Baire. And in the 8 year period from 2005 and 2012 when they won the 7 Leinsters they won 7 AIs also. They weren't just the best team in Leinster by a country mile that time. They were the best team in Ireland.
As regards the structure I did propose on other threads a few years ago, and several times since, to do away with the League SFs and Finals, and the AI QFs, run the Leinster and Munster championships as straight knockout after the League for Leinster and Munster teams, and have the round robins mixed and seeded as the AI series, with the top 2 from 2 groups of 6 going into the AISFs. I think that's the fairest system for yourselves and Antrim.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13754 - 01/02/2024 10:33:15    2523636

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Replying To tommy k:  "Viking I agree with you that Galway have not been that good in recent years but have been to the last 4 in most of the last 5 seasons after 2017 / 18 which is more than Wexford have done. You keep saying Galway have a lot of good players to come back etc. and then in the next sentence you say that they have won nothing of note. Many of them still have a celtic cross as you also stated earlier so if they did no other hurling from here on in, its still more than the vast majority of hurlers / hurling teams have including Wexford!"
That belief is what's lacking though. The core of your lads have done it all before. Yet still have come up short against a Kilkenny team that's not as good on paper. I haven't added up the figures but in last year's Leinster final you might very well have had more All Ireland winning players on the pitch than they had.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13754 - 01/02/2024 10:36:30    2523639

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Replying To tommy k:  "Sorry Viking but there seems to be some contradictions in your post above you might explain. First you say "I think your hurlers are better than they think they are" and then you say "We certainly don't have the arrogance that some of your lads have". Are you talking about the hurlers or supporters in your second sentence because if its the hurlers that contradicts your first sentence? I don't agree with your sentiments regardless as its the media that build up Galway hurlers each year and not the supporters based on minor success etc. The Galway supporters are probably the team's harshest critics you will find if you read this forum or others when Galway lose to a team that they should be beating on paper at least."
Some supporters. A minority. Your hurlers certainly aren't arrogant.
And yes because this minority are arrogant they then criticise the team harshly for not living up to their expectations.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13754 - 01/02/2024 11:12:13    2523644

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Replying To Viking66:  "The most Leinsters they ever won in a row is 7 Baire. And in the 8 year period from 2005 and 2012 when they won the 7 Leinsters they won 7 AIs also. They weren't just the best team in Leinster by a country mile that time. They were the best team in Ireland.
As regards the structure I did propose on other threads a few years ago, and several times since, to do away with the League SFs and Finals, and the AI QFs, run the Leinster and Munster championships as straight knockout after the League for Leinster and Munster teams, and have the round robins mixed and seeded as the AI series, with the top 2 from 2 groups of 6 going into the AISFs. I think that's the fairest system for yourselves and Antrim."
KK won Leinster in these years, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011.
12 out of 13!
That's why Galway were asked to take part. I'm not saying Galway made much of a difference but that's proof of Cody's demolition of the Leinster championship.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1849 - 01/02/2024 11:43:21    2523649

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Replying To Viking66:  "The most Leinsters they ever won in a row is 7 Baire. And in the 8 year period from 2005 and 2012 when they won the 7 Leinsters they won 7 AIs also. They weren't just the best team in Leinster by a country mile that time. They were the best team in Ireland.
As regards the structure I did propose on other threads a few years ago, and several times since, to do away with the League SFs and Finals, and the AI QFs, run the Leinster and Munster championships as straight knockout after the League for Leinster and Munster teams, and have the round robins mixed and seeded as the AI series, with the top 2 from 2 groups of 6 going into the AISFs. I think that's the fairest system for yourselves and Antrim."
13 out of 14 rather!

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1849 - 01/02/2024 11:45:49    2523650

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Replying To Viking66:  "Some supporters. A minority. Your hurlers certainly aren't arrogant.
And yes because this minority are arrogant they then criticise the team harshly for not living up to their expectations."
I have seen lots of harsh criticism on your own forum towards Wexford especially when you lost to a team wearing maroon! You'll get them in every county and in every club.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1849 - 01/02/2024 11:51:45    2523652

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Replying To baire:  "13 out of 14 rather!"
And 10 All Irelands. And but for a really good Cork team and Offaly they'd have 13 AIs between 98 and 2012. That's what they do. They've won 4 in a row now and they haven't as strong a team as they had back then and you are in Leinster now also.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13754 - 01/02/2024 12:45:40    2523657

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Replying To baire:  "KK won Leinster in these years, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011.
12 out of 13!
That's why Galway were asked to take part. I'm not saying Galway made much of a difference but that's proof of Cody's demolition of the Leinster championship."
He demolished the AI championship during that time also. Cork had a great team and won 3. Tipp won 1 in 2001 beating you in the final, but really we should've beaten them in the drawn semifinal it was all Wexford in the closing stages.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13754 - 01/02/2024 12:52:06    2523658

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