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It is an interesting match up. I am fascinated to see how both teams will approach it. It is, in some ways, a dead rubber as both teams are already through from the group - however the winner is in a better position to tackle the knockout stages and will have a better run-in as a direct quarter finalist. It seems to me that across the board, there are too many games in this cup. I just think that playing altogether dozens of matches just to eliminate 4 teams out of the competition is a bit much. You could concievably see Tipp or Waterford get out of our group, get a winnable draw in the prelim and reach the quarters on a 50% win rate, and another three teams the same. Seems like a slow death for the counties involved over time if you find yourself in this competition for a few years. But anyway, thats another days discussion and there are many perspectives.
This will be a substantial step up. Im just looking forward to seeing how the Meath team reacts to the step up. Not even thinking about the result atm. I just want to see confidence more than anything else. A win would be a landmark for a lot of these lads." The amount of games i think is just part of the GAA business model. in their simplistic minds it is just a case of more games means more funds, but they didnt count on crowds not showing up to watch substandard counties playing.
On teh other hand it ensure that lads who are putting in a mountain of work across all counties get a good few games each year and they have a chance of getting somewhere if they can sneak a few wins.
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Replying To Proudroyal: "While everyone seems to be taking a pop at Royaldunne, he does have some valid points.Sligo drew with Kildare are we not as good as Sligo?Westmeath should've beaten Armagh are we not as good as Westmeath?Before anyone says it yes I know they are in the all Ireland and we are in the Tailteann cup so technicality yes they are better but both are division 3 so if we ain't better we should be at least level with them.Why should we accept that we are weaker than teams below us in the league.For the record I dont think there is much between division 2 and top half of division 3 and would argue any team on its day could beat one another.It comes down to confidence and you only get confidence by winning and unfortunately we haven't done alot of that this year.It will be interesting to see how the forwards do v Down,while i know Tipperary/Waterford arent in a good place at the minute (no disrespect to both of them)we did kick some nice scores and eventually 2 decent scorelines so that has to help the forwards going on.Ive said it before the defence worries me and in fairness Royaldunne and many others on here have said the same.Im hoping we can tighten up at the back (alot really) and Cor has used the couple of weeks wisely.While I've agreed with a couple of Royaldunnes points I dont agree with him going after COR and think he needs time but we also should see some improvements.Its good he is giving a few young lads experience and they should be better again next year for it.Royaldunne you say you want o bric as manager and yes he has won a minor all ireland which was great but there is a massive jump up from minor as I'm sure you know.If he comes in for next year and say we lose a few games do we then get rid of him?Is that a gamble we can afford?Most teams that are successful in sport for a long enough period of time takes exactly that time.Not many go in and reap rewards in the first year.We do have to build foundations and then the house around it as the old saying goes.Is he the right man? that word again only time will tell.You may well be right maybe he isn't the man but I think he deserves his 2nd year and if we regress or standstill I'm sure he will walk himself. There will be more bumps in the road ahead but hopefully we can hit a smoother part soon.I agree with you we have to see improvement between now and this time next year, a system to suit players and we should be aiming higher and believe we are as good as the teams around us at least.As I've said before it's a mentality issue with us, we have accepted losing to an extent everyone from players,managers and us supporters and that has to change but it wont be easy or fixed overnight.We have some great young players coming through and hopefully they will start to show their potential soon and we will be competitive at least in the near future." I pass little attention to the haters. They remind me of the Twitter trolls I mean when you see them going on about me writing Sunday instead of Saturday ( a mistake anyone could write ). What are the 6 ? If my little kids did that I'd give out to them.
Look I get what you saying about obric. And I completely understand where you coming from, my worry is if we continue with what we have we will fall further off the pace. , looking at this year objectively Colm took over a average midtable div 2 team who could compete with mayo Donegal (before they imploded) even Kerry in super 8s a few years ago but just not for the full match who had slipped back a bit. My hope was whoever was appointed they would arrest the slide that had begun last year, at least make dubs and Derry look over their shoulders , and reach a Leinster final and no doubt get beat by Dublin, then onto the all ire series again playing better teams but constantly learning (as EVERYONE knows you only improve playing better teams) I don't think loosing to louth without their best player drawing with a Limerick team who had already decided to sack their manager and getting deservedly beat by a poor Offaly team was on the cards . For me obric only job for year one would be to finish midtable division 2, and avoid TC next year, have a team set up that is hard to defeat, improve us defensively (ensuring the best players are on the team). The best fb in county is not even on panel never mind starting, have some resemblance of a game plan, that wouldn't be success in the conventional sense but it would be a huge improvement on this year. By all evidence SO FAR, Colm won't do that. My fear is that by the time obric comes in (I know he's supposed to take over u20s next year) we will be in division 3 and long-standing members of tailteann cup , he will then be under immense pressure to get promoted in year one, we have lost our seeding in Leinster so could easily have a qf match v dubs next year.
I just think the end of year is best time to bite the bullet. It's only my opinion. I hope to god Cor can turn this around and I'll
Be the first to congratulate him if he does and hold my hands up and gladly say I was wrong. But I haven't seen any evidence that he will YET
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Replying To Proudroyal: "While everyone seems to be taking a pop at Royaldunne, he does have some valid points.Sligo drew with Kildare are we not as good as Sligo?Westmeath should've beaten Armagh are we not as good as Westmeath?Before anyone says it yes I know they are in the all Ireland and we are in the Tailteann cup so technicality yes they are better but both are division 3 so if we ain't better we should be at least level with them.Why should we accept that we are weaker than teams below us in the league.For the record I dont think there is much between division 2 and top half of division 3 and would argue any team on its day could beat one another.It comes down to confidence and you only get confidence by winning and unfortunately we haven't done alot of that this year.It will be interesting to see how the forwards do v Down,while i know Tipperary/Waterford arent in a good place at the minute (no disrespect to both of them)we did kick some nice scores and eventually 2 decent scorelines so that has to help the forwards going on.Ive said it before the defence worries me and in fairness Royaldunne and many others on here have said the same.Im hoping we can tighten up at the back (alot really) and Cor has used the couple of weeks wisely.While I've agreed with a couple of Royaldunnes points I dont agree with him going after COR and think he needs time but we also should see some improvements.Its good he is giving a few young lads experience and they should be better again next year for it.Royaldunne you say you want o bric as manager and yes he has won a minor all ireland which was great but there is a massive jump up from minor as I'm sure you know.If he comes in for next year and say we lose a few games do we then get rid of him?Is that a gamble we can afford?Most teams that are successful in sport for a long enough period of time takes exactly that time.Not many go in and reap rewards in the first year.We do have to build foundations and then the house around it as the old saying goes.Is he the right man? that word again only time will tell.You may well be right maybe he isn't the man but I think he deserves his 2nd year and if we regress or standstill I'm sure he will walk himself. There will be more bumps in the road ahead but hopefully we can hit a smoother part soon.I agree with you we have to see improvement between now and this time next year, a system to suit players and we should be aiming higher and believe we are as good as the teams around us at least.As I've said before it's a mentality issue with us, we have accepted losing to an extent everyone from players,managers and us supporters and that has to change but it wont be easy or fixed overnight.We have some great young players coming through and hopefully they will start to show their potential soon and we will be competitive at least in the near future." Agree with most of your post, this management needs and will get more time, this time next year will give a much clearer picture what the future holds and if no singn of progress then COR will step aside, there will be no looking to lay the blame elsewhere he will accept him time is up and move on. However, I would expect a more positive outcome. Westmeath would have joined us in TC if they had not won it last year, they were knocked out of Leinster early on and Sligo had an easy route to Connaght final. Little point in thinking we are better or should be better, we have to earn that right on playing field. Agree with point Bernard F made in todays Indo when he said Colm may have been surprised by how bad things were, when he took over. He went on to lay the blame at CB level for our demise over last 10/15 years, not so sure about that, have asked many times where are they failing, what exactly do they need to do? What are managers or development officer not getting, how are their hands been tied?
He also feels TC is of no benefit to Meath, unless we win it, dont agree with that, its the perfect chance to keep panel together and bring new talent through. The work done now can only benefit us in next years league.
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Replying To seadog54: "Agree with most of your post, this management needs and will get more time, this time next year will give a much clearer picture what the future holds and if no singn of progress then COR will step aside, there will be no looking to lay the blame elsewhere he will accept him time is up and move on. However, I would expect a more positive outcome. Westmeath would have joined us in TC if they had not won it last year, they were knocked out of Leinster early on and Sligo had an easy route to Connaght final. Little point in thinking we are better or should be better, we have to earn that right on playing field. Agree with point Bernard F made in todays Indo when he said Colm may have been surprised by how bad things were, when he took over. He went on to lay the blame at CB level for our demise over last 10/15 years, not so sure about that, have asked many times where are they failing, what exactly do they need to do? What are managers or development officer not getting, how are their hands been tied?
He also feels TC is of no benefit to Meath, unless we win it, dont agree with that, its the perfect chance to keep panel together and bring new talent through. The work done now can only benefit us in next years league." Shows how good of job previous managerial set ups did to keep us competitive when we apparently so bad. Perhaps they owed an apology from many.
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Preparation will go a long this time as always.! Thats my biggest concern. I just dont know how we compare with best practise a s discovered by Dublin. That should be a special project driven by the CB to start with. Thats just a question...nothing else and an example of where CB lead. PREPARATION is vital especially this time. A lot of players we have are young and inexperienced at this level. They and the entire panel ate totally united with C.olm i believe I think to shore up our defence i would give costllo a shot at sweeper role for even first half......not cast in stone..
I hope our coach is at the top of his game in mental preparation just now. I hope he has done a good insulation job to shield these fully commited young men from deliberate destructive comments "IGNORE YOUR MANAGER "is the advise to these young men.Here is the punch line ...........that person calls himself a "SUPPORTER" and will wish Colm and the lads all the best on Sat morning.....what hypocracy ? Think about what effect this could have on these young ..IGNORE YOUR MANAGER". I regard that as a deliberate attempt to de-motivate players at a time of uncertainty and trying to gain confidence as a team..Despicable from a person who presumably has all their faculties. However, this is where the good mental coach comes into his own, That comment should be addressed as they will have seen it anyway With skill he has that as a wonderful motivational tool to turn a negative into a positive ,to rev the lads up I have NEVER seen a "SUPPORTER" use this spiteful behaviour to drive his selfish agenda... If Meath do win i wonder how will he be able to BLAME Colm O Rourke.
For myself frustrated and impatient yes but thats my problem ..nobody elses ...We wiil know more in a couple of years...It will take time I will make my own judgement at the agreed time. Meanwile i 100% support Colm and all the lads and to the young players in particular if you really think about look at the honour bestowed on you to wear that jersey .I envy your position( oh is envy a sin ....no not here) Anyway lads the only sin or mistake you can make is not to give your very best for the entire match Congratulations on being asked to show the pride in the jersey with your true grit. Best of luck Backroom team as well !
P. S. i f the person concerned does some "mature reflection" perhaps they may withraw that advise rather that continue as someone who can see that YOU are a lone voice on this.....OPINION and disagreement thats ok like everyone else.
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It's an odd one but on Saturday I would rather we play well and show some signs of improvement but lose rather than more of the same and scrape over the line. One of my worries going into the Tailteann Cup (while I think it's a great opportunity) is that we would get away with playing poorly as we're not playing well setup teams. That has been the case so far in the Tipp and Waterford games where they are well in the game after 25 minutes. Down are a well setup team so now is a good opportunity to see if we have improved. I want to feel the buzz of excitement like I did after the Cork game. Unfortunately after that teams knew how to stop us and our performance levels got porgressively worse. We haven't improved much since the Offaly game but the opposition have gotten worse. Hopefully Saturday there will be more signs of improvement and it'll be a mood boost ahead of the hurling.
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Replying To seadog54: "Agree with most of your post, this management needs and will get more time, this time next year will give a much clearer picture what the future holds and if no singn of progress then COR will step aside, there will be no looking to lay the blame elsewhere he will accept him time is up and move on. However, I would expect a more positive outcome. Westmeath would have joined us in TC if they had not won it last year, they were knocked out of Leinster early on and Sligo had an easy route to Connaght final. Little point in thinking we are better or should be better, we have to earn that right on playing field. Agree with point Bernard F made in todays Indo when he said Colm may have been surprised by how bad things were, when he took over. He went on to lay the blame at CB level for our demise over last 10/15 years, not so sure about that, have asked many times where are they failing, what exactly do they need to do? What are managers or development officer not getting, how are their hands been tied?
He also feels TC is of no benefit to Meath, unless we win it, dont agree with that, its the perfect chance to keep panel together and bring new talent through. The work done now can only benefit us in next years league." I would tend to agree with him re the county board set up but think their hands are tied by the clubs. I think where they have let us down over the years is the championship formats have been a waste of time and it dosn't drive a competitive edge. Clubs have the final say but i do think that this needs to change as for the betterment of the county across both codes, the county board in my opinion should be able to change things and the clubs should just be told this is how its going to be.
They are an elected board and therefore that should be good enough to merit changes are pushed through. On the other hand, this only works if the people elected are not just in it for their own personal/club gain. God knows we have had a few men and woman over the years who would have been better suited to the DUP.
And on the format front il throw my 2 pence at it. I think the top tier needs to be reduced or split into a senior B which integrates with the top class of intermediate at knock out stage. I think the kerry format should also be looked at in terms of getting regionals involved.
I know fixtures is the problem but i think there are too many cup competitions that are not required, a league and championship is plenty and would drive a bit more of a must win at all costs format. I would make cups and shields only for second teams as these can then be ran off at any time. Anyway just my opinion and will never happen.
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Replying To royal11: "It's an odd one but on Saturday I would rather we play well and show some signs of improvement but lose rather than more of the same and scrape over the line. One of my worries going into the Tailteann Cup (while I think it's a great opportunity) is that we would get away with playing poorly as we're not playing well setup teams. That has been the case so far in the Tipp and Waterford games where they are well in the game after 25 minutes. Down are a well setup team so now is a good opportunity to see if we have improved. I want to feel the buzz of excitement like I did after the Cork game. Unfortunately after that teams knew how to stop us and our performance levels got porgressively worse. We haven't improved much since the Offaly game but the opposition have gotten worse. Hopefully Saturday there will be more signs of improvement and it'll be a mood boost ahead of the hurling." Hopefully you are right. But I'm HOPING we play well and win. But I get what you are saying the steep downward curve has to stop and start an incline , even if it's a slow one I'll take that. But we have to show something, a clear coherent game plan would be a start, and definitely we need to be defensively tighter.
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Replying To Irish_downunder: "I would tend to agree with him re the county board set up but think their hands are tied by the clubs. I think where they have let us down over the years is the championship formats have been a waste of time and it dosn't drive a competitive edge. Clubs have the final say but i do think that this needs to change as for the betterment of the county across both codes, the county board in my opinion should be able to change things and the clubs should just be told this is how its going to be.
They are an elected board and therefore that should be good enough to merit changes are pushed through. On the other hand, this only works if the people elected are not just in it for their own personal/club gain. God knows we have had a few men and woman over the years who would have been better suited to the DUP.
And on the format front il throw my 2 pence at it. I think the top tier needs to be reduced or split into a senior B which integrates with the top class of intermediate at knock out stage. I think the kerry format should also be looked at in terms of getting regionals involved.
I know fixtures is the problem but i think there are too many cup competitions that are not required, a league and championship is plenty and would drive a bit more of a must win at all costs format. I would make cups and shields only for second teams as these can then be ran off at any time. Anyway just my opinion and will never happen." I agree with BF, Kevin Cahill was a big loss, a buisnessman and experienced player who was willing to give his time to development of Meath football was exactly the type of person we need to drive things forward. It would appear that many on CB have their strings pulled by particular club or block of delegates who voted them in. A very difficult system to change and is the same in many counties. For many club is first with county a distant second, which is understandable. Have CB a strategy that covers the next 5/10 years if so, who designed it, what expertise did they have? I am sure lots of good work goes on behind the scene and elected people by and large do their best, however are they qualified to take on these important duties?
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Replying To royaldunne: "Shows how good of job previous managerial set ups did to keep us competitive when we apparently so bad. Perhaps they owed an apology from many." In fairness the previous manager at least put a lot of effort in but it did not qualify as good overall due to lack of self control at matches ( cant be helped as down to passion) and blatant favouritism ,meaning Meath lost many games due to not having the best 15 out.
I am wondering did Meath ever have a situation where all players got a fair chance without favour on basis of club ,political ties, business ties etc. If a manager brought that into Meath and had a good scouting network backing him the improvement would be phenomenal. The nearest I seen to an attempt to pick the best was the 2021 Leinster Final where Meath would have beaten Dublin but for wrong penalty calls at both ends. And at that Meath even carried a well connected passenger or 2.
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Replying To nobull456: "That is a very important point for discussion indeed .For me i expect the cb to show VISION firstly. .I expect them to have an inbuilt quality system type of mentality.We dont need them on the playing field but we need their vision to explore and make better everything that improves performance. They could start with an audit amongst themselves To begin with the question " what are we supposed to be doing" ? We are key holders and we do that very well .How visionary are we and where have we shown vision last. Dont know......To begin with Dunganny is there ....good. How much effort have we put into exploring best practice in key areas such as coaching, s.and c. player welfare etc. How much have we looked at the modern game ,and how we meet those needs.etc. We all know we personally cannot do everything......BUT WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE......When did we last stop and do our own audit to establish what development needs WE as individuals have to help us see whats needs to be done. Have we brought in any external expertise on this subject......Are we just naval gazers because of politics.....are we free enough to take charge We got our finances back in order How much will all this cost Answer..how much will it cost in terms of standards and performance if we dont do an audit to establish if we are working smartly by looking and overseeing ALL key areas of performance on and off the field.? Training sessions best practise ?? How much time and effort do we put in to Training and Development beginning with ourselves.That would be some reward for effort for us even .Players get to wear the jersey .How come there was no QUE for the managers job ? How come there was very little competion for our jobs on the CB either? Have we given full discussion with help if required to decide on the key requirements for the role of manager be it for hurling or football........we could say but everyone is doing their job why interfere.Answer because we want to assist and encourage by confirming that we are up to speed on best practise including succession planning nothing stands still .We have to ensure we are up to speed thats the responsibility we were given! How good are we at learning from mistakes. ?what do we need to change ?. Do we accept because of developments we are very much committed to change if thats for the good of the county?" Have we not got director or development manager on board now.but your right I t seems like jobs for the boys in Dungannon nobody to answer too just plod along it's all good here lads.
I see new man galligan promoting player pathways so that's a start but I feel we are just playing catch up for years here.we seemingly have great resources so something is rotten.
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I agree with some points you make Royaldunne but the fact remains we are still extremely limited in the forwards and have been for years.
We haven't a forward to consistently score frees which should be a minimum ask for a team. Westmeath, Kildare, Louth, Offaly have all better forwards than us and from looking at the U20/U17's it's the same issue there. Do county teams not practice kicking the ball over the bar?
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I dont remember too many competitive games against Dublin in the championship?
We did qualify for the Super 8's one time and lost all 3 games by an average score of 9 points a game, not very competitive if you ask me.
We also competed in division one and didn't win one game out of 7.
We didn't beat one decent team in 6 years under him but ye we were competitive alright.
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Just seen the team named - of course no guarantee it will be the team that starts! Looks like a good line up - good to see James McEntee starting! Presume Jack Flynn is injured! Ben Wyer should get a bit of game time!
IWith McGowan and Grey and Jones in the middle we shouldn't be afraid to go long with the kickouts!
I fancy a Meath win!!!
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I dont remember too many competitive games against Dublin in the championship?
We did qualify for the Super 8's one time and lost all 3 games by an average score of 9 points a game, not very competitive if you ask me.
We also competed in division one and didn't win one game out of 7.
We didn't beat one decent team in 6 years under him but ye we were competitive alright." Thanks I needed a laugh
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We haven't a forward to consistently score frees which should be a minimum ask for a team. Westmeath, Kildare, Louth, Offaly have all better forwards than us and from looking at the U20/U17's it's the same issue there. Do county teams not practice kicking the ball over the bar?" I'd agree with that too.
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I dont remember too many competitive games against Dublin in the championship?
We did qualify for the Super 8's one time and lost all 3 games by an average score of 9 points a game, not very competitive if you ask me.
We also competed in division one and didn't win one game out of 7.
We didn't beat one decent team in 6 years under him but ye we were competitive alright." We were a hell of a lot more competitive from 2019-2021 than we have been this year. And as for being competitive against Dublin, that was up against the greatest team in GAA history and not the shambles they currently are. 6 of the division 1 games we were extremely competitive in. And all the super 8 games were right in the melting pot with 15 mins left. Unlike this year when the 2 top 8 teams we played have destroyed us by half time. And as for this "we've a young squad we are building" line. I'm not buying that. It's not like he inherited a team of lads in their 30's. Walsh, Scully, Costello, Campion, O'Connor, Morris, Hickey, Harkin, Flynn even Coffey had been introduced to the panel. He says we've a lack of experience but he's the one who chose to cut McGill. I amn't expecting world beating results but to act like we weren't more competitive under Andy than we have been this year is nonsense.
LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1523 - 02/06/2023 21:26:47
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Replying To royaldunne: "Shows how good of job previous managerial set ups did to keep us competitive when we apparently so bad. Perhaps they owed an apology from many." You post some rubbish !! competitive !! so your happy getting beaten as long as its by only small margins and also happy that we continued to play a style of football that was proven for 6 years to be unsuccessful no plan B but at times was competitive , competitive until we got to a leinster final or Div1 or super 8s .
I'd love you to explain where were we going under the previous set up what did the previous set up achieve and how did Meath football improve over that 6 year period.
Has COR improved anything NO will he Hopefully but I've no doubt if he was given the same amount of time 6 years he'd leave the set up in a lot better of a place than he received it .
But he won't hang around if it's not working unlike the previous setup did and certainly won't hang around when he hasn't the backing of the county board .
mmc (Meath) - Posts: 280 - 02/06/2023 23:27:20
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