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I think the standard in Ulster has really levelled out in the last year no stand out team Derry look in good shape but will have to deal with favourite tag this year and teams will be more familiar with their style hard to know where Tyrone are but will be the hardest to beat not much between Armagh Donegal Monaghan and Cavan on any given day.

breffnibluewhite (Cavan) - Posts: 519 - 28/01/2023 14:08:39    2454726

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Team was released earlier, but I'd expect changes from the 15 named:
Galligan
Finnegan, Faulkner, Carolan
Holla Brady, McVeety, Tiarnan Madden
Conor Brady, K Clarke
Oisin Kieran, G Smith, McLoughlin
Marty Reilly, O'Neill, Oisin Brady

Paddy Lynch named on the bench. If he has any fitness, we might need him. Likes of Cian Madden, David Brady, Ryan Donohoe, and Stephen Smith might either start or see time off the bench. Going to be a tough afternoon I think. Oisin Brady will need a big day as we'll be depending on someone to keep the scoreboard ticking

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2488 - 28/01/2023 15:30:09    2454752

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Replying To Loughduff Lad:  "Team was released earlier, but I'd expect changes from the 15 named:
Galligan
Finnegan, Faulkner, Carolan
Holla Brady, McVeety, Tiarnan Madden
Conor Brady, K Clarke
Oisin Kieran, G Smith, McLoughlin
Marty Reilly, O'Neill, Oisin Brady

Paddy Lynch named on the bench. If he has any fitness, we might need him. Likes of Cian Madden, David Brady, Ryan Donohoe, and Stephen Smith might either start or see time off the bench. Going to be a tough afternoon I think. Oisin Brady will need a big day as we'll be depending on someone to keep the scoreboard ticking"
And why would you expect changes Loughduff… Is it now the standard practice..? More GAA nonsense..

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 4243 - 29/01/2023 09:58:21    2454861

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "And why would you expect changes Loughduff… Is it now the standard practice..? More GAA nonsense.."
As the team needs to be submitted on Wednesday night, which is silly. That's leaves a lot of time for lads to pass fitness, or get injured on the last session on Thursday or such. 4 days is a lot. Should be Friday maybe and you'll get more accurate teams.

I'm watching the warm up here. Paddy Lynch put fully togged. We'll see him play a part for example.

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2488 - 29/01/2023 13:38:37    2454926

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Well that was pleasantly surprising. Thought we'd find that tough, but we were by far the better team even with players missing. Did get nervy for a spell when they got 1-2 on the trot, but we had enough to see this out. Kept them scoreless for maybe 40 minutes, and managed the game very well against a strong wind 1st half. Not perfect by any means. Missed a few scores, but we were better than Westmeath, and took enough of our chances considering we had no forward you'd depend on for 3 or so scores from play. McVeety a thorn in their side all day, and along with Holla and Tiarnan Madden, the half back line were great. Ryan O'Neill very good at winning ball and took his 2 scores well. Hard won game, but happy with that start to the season on a heavy field on windy conditions.

Things in our hands now. 4 of the next 6 games at home, and need to push on through this division. Conor Brady looks like he'll miss a spell with a hamstring gone, but hopefully more other lads to come back soon. Good start to the year!

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2488 - 29/01/2023 17:30:39    2455008

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Well thank God for the return of a fully fit Holla and McVeety. Possibly the 2 best players in the county. We're like a new team with them. Plenty of brawn throughout the team today got us over a tough battle. Ryan O'Neil is a very good ball winner inside.
GMac and Gerry still to come back onto this team too. Plenty to be optimistic about.
Would still question some lads and their grit and as a nice a footballer as some may be, they just lack the physicality for this level. I think we've plenty more athletes to bring on to the scene to add to this.
I saw Conor Smith and Jack McKenna heading into the dressing room at half time, 2 lads I'm really hoping can make the break this year as they are so dominant at club level.

LackenQuality79 (Cavan) - Posts: 28 - 29/01/2023 19:52:48    2455085

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A good start but our scoring will have to improve dramatically… 12 points will not win many games and yet again we fail to raise a green flag… There are players to come back in so our scoring will surely improve..so onwards and upwards towards Division 2

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 4243 - 29/01/2023 21:01:31    2455129

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "A good start but our scoring will have to improve dramatically… 12 points will not win many games and yet again we fail to raise a green flag… There are players to come back in so our scoring will surely improve..so onwards and upwards towards Division 2"
Ah now. Didn't take long to go straight to negativity. Were you at the game? It was a tight field, on very heavy ground, with a gale wind in January. This was more an arm wrestle to be fair, and I think we did very well to hold them out and manage the game the way we did. We managed it and picked them off bit by bit to open a 0-9 to 0-3 lead, which i thought was decent with no out and out scoring forward (hopefully Lynch will be back to full fitness soon). Yes, we had a wobble, but we had a lot of inexperienced fellas out there (6 debuts yesterday) and we got a way out of that funk to see the game off. There are far more positives from yesterday, considering they beat us in July, and had more experienced players on their panel at home.

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2488 - 30/01/2023 08:18:52    2455154

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Replying To Loughduff Lad:  "Ah now. Didn't take long to go straight to negativity. Were you at the game? It was a tight field, on very heavy ground, with a gale wind in January. This was more an arm wrestle to be fair, and I think we did very well to hold them out and manage the game the way we did. We managed it and picked them off bit by bit to open a 0-9 to 0-3 lead, which i thought was decent with no out and out scoring forward (hopefully Lynch will be back to full fitness soon). Yes, we had a wobble, but we had a lot of inexperienced fellas out there (6 debuts yesterday) and we got a way out of that funk to see the game off. There are far more positives from yesterday, considering they beat us in July, and had more experienced players on their panel at home."
Didn't expect a win but great to get it. I wouldn't be too worried about the scoring yet. 1st game on heavy pitch. I know it was only 5 points from play but the 2 points against a so called promotion rival was more important.
Think we might have to win ugly to get out of this Div and at the moment that's more important than scoring averages.
Winning breeds confidence and if we can go on a run of wins with 4 of the next 6 at home I thing scoring averages will automatically improve.
All in all good result especially without GMC who we probably have been over reliant on last year.

Breffni1969 (Cavan) - Posts: 510 - 30/01/2023 10:06:41    2455180

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Listened to game on northern sound and was delighted that we got the win I know we had a bit of a sticky patch but so do all teams, boys on the radio were saying our half back line were brilliant yesterday can anyone that was at the match confirm that as don't take much notice of the two on the radio, anyway we owed them one after the game in July and it's in our hands now which is what we want iron out the sloppiness and with for games at home we should get out of this division go for the jugular and be ruthless and we should be fine.

[email protected] (Cavan) - Posts: 138 - 30/01/2023 10:37:13    2455195

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Good start . Cavan looked more hungry and main Westmeath players weren't as prominent.
Ryan O Neill had a good game. A run of games in McKenna Cup seems to have brought him on. He was around the panel a few years off /on.

Down had a good win in Tipperary. Fermanagh playerd very well by all accounts against Longford. Quigley back in action.

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2949 - 30/01/2023 10:39:10    2455196

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Replying To [email protected]:  "Listened to game on northern sound and was delighted that we got the win I know we had a bit of a sticky patch but so do all teams, boys on the radio were saying our half back line were brilliant yesterday can anyone that was at the match confirm that as don't take much notice of the two on the radio, anyway we owed them one after the game in July and it's in our hands now which is what we want iron out the sloppiness and with for games at home we should get out of this division go for the jugular and be ruthless and we should be fine."
Holla and McVeety were unreal, and Tiarnan Madden alongside them great too. The 2 lads looked back to their best, and were marauding up the centre of the field, laying ball off, and disrupting when they had the ball. If the lads on the radio were bigging them up, then they were right in this case.

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2488 - 30/01/2023 11:33:54    2455217

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Our biggest problem is same for past few years and needs to be sorted asap. We create very few goal chances and have a very poor conversion rate on the ones we do create. This allows teams that we often totally dominate like all our league games last year to stay in the game and then we are open to a sucker punch goal which normally comes and leaves us hanging on like yesterday. look at Roscommon yesterday two of their goals against tyrone were never goal chances a point was by far the safer option but they went for the jugular and reaped the rewards if that was cavan we would have taken our points and came away with our normal 4 to 6 point defeat.

breffnibluewhite (Cavan) - Posts: 519 - 30/01/2023 11:39:06    2455221

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Replying To breffnibluewhite:  "Our biggest problem is same for past few years and needs to be sorted asap. We create very few goal chances and have a very poor conversion rate on the ones we do create. This allows teams that we often totally dominate like all our league games last year to stay in the game and then we are open to a sucker punch goal which normally comes and leaves us hanging on like yesterday. look at Roscommon yesterday two of their goals against tyrone were never goal chances a point was by far the safer option but they went for the jugular and reaped the rewards if that was cavan we would have taken our points and came away with our normal 4 to 6 point defeat."
Do agree to a point. But with that heavy field yesterday, really didn't allow for many goal chances for both sides. Westmeath got the only one they created, which was a palm in from a fist pass across the square. We had one half chance where O'Neill took a point when he could have taken another solo and had a shot at goal. I think point at that time was the right call though as points from play were at a premium. We do need to get better at creating and scoring goal chances though, so hope we do when conditions and pitches get better into the Spring

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2488 - 30/01/2023 12:40:20    2455244

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Replying To breffnibluewhite:  "Our biggest problem is same for past few years and needs to be sorted asap. We create very few goal chances and have a very poor conversion rate on the ones we do create. This allows teams that we often totally dominate like all our league games last year to stay in the game and then we are open to a sucker punch goal which normally comes and leaves us hanging on like yesterday. look at Roscommon yesterday two of their goals against tyrone were never goal chances a point was by far the safer option but they went for the jugular and reaped the rewards if that was cavan we would have taken our points and came away with our normal 4 to 6 point defeat."
A win is a win, more that a lot of us expected.,There was a lot of young lads out there who did very well in their 1st competitive game at this level.
Let's give them a bit of confidence. They will learn,
Cork scored 19pts and lost. Carlow scored 2-10 and drew.
It's about getting the result in these early matches and setting yourself up for something to play for.

Breffni1969 (Cavan) - Posts: 510 - 30/01/2023 13:23:08    2455264

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Replying To Loughduff Lad:  "Ah now. Didn't take long to go straight to negativity. Were you at the game? It was a tight field, on very heavy ground, with a gale wind in January. This was more an arm wrestle to be fair, and I think we did very well to hold them out and manage the game the way we did. We managed it and picked them off bit by bit to open a 0-9 to 0-3 lead, which i thought was decent with no out and out scoring forward (hopefully Lynch will be back to full fitness soon). Yes, we had a wobble, but we had a lot of inexperienced fellas out there (6 debuts yesterday) and we got a way out of that funk to see the game off. There are far more positives from yesterday, considering they beat us in July, and had more experienced players on their panel at home."
Nothing negative about it… just an honest observation… 12 points is a very poor return for any county team regardless of the conditions … but sure to improve if some more of the lads get back… great to win with such a small scoring return… If Westmeath were told Cavan would only get 12 pts I'm sure they would be very confident of winning… Just saying….,

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 4243 - 30/01/2023 13:27:41    2455265

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Nothing negative about it… just an honest observation… 12 points is a very poor return for any county team regardless of the conditions … but sure to improve if some more of the lads get back… great to win with such a small scoring return… If Westmeath were told Cavan would only get 12 pts I'm sure they would be very confident of winning… Just saying….,"
Just saying that need to account for the tight field, heavy underfoot conditions (ball wouldn't even bounce along the sidelines), gale force wind, and an inexperienced team away against a team who beat us in July, it was plenty of good to take out of it. It's January and we started with a win which we rarely do. We can take a lot more positives out of this

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2488 - 30/01/2023 13:56:47    2455277

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Replying To [email protected]:  "Listened to game on northern sound and was delighted that we got the win I know we had a bit of a sticky patch but so do all teams, boys on the radio were saying our half back line were brilliant yesterday can anyone that was at the match confirm that as don't take much notice of the two on the radio, anyway we owed them one after the game in July and it's in our hands now which is what we want iron out the sloppiness and with for games at home we should get out of this division go for the jugular and be ruthless and we should be fine."
Yeah they were excellent both defensively and offensively. They drove forward on numerous occasions and created overlaps. Though Niall carolan also had a great game. Of the forward I was a bit disappointed in Oisin Brady. Didn't kick on from the McKenna Cup. He coughed up possession a few times. The tackling overall was very good, turned over a lot of ball.

Cutler (Cavan) - Posts: 33 - 30/01/2023 16:21:43    2455325

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Replying To Loughduff Lad:  "Holla and McVeety were unreal, and Tiarnan Madden alongside them great too. The 2 lads looked back to their best, and were marauding up the centre of the field, laying ball off, and disrupting when they had the ball. If the lads on the radio were bigging them up, then they were right in this case."
Thanks for that Loughduff Lad

[email protected] (Cavan) - Posts: 138 - 30/01/2023 16:25:17    2455330

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Good win. More comfortable than I thought it would be. Tiernan madden is a good addition with mcvetty back aswell.
Goals are a problem because we don't have forwards who go for the jugular when they have the chance. In saying that there are only a couple of forwards in the county who are goal threats.
We should get promoted now looking at the results over the weekend nobody to fear

tom84 (Cavan) - Posts: 337 - 30/01/2023 16:42:19    2455337

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