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Replying To Afinestick96:  "Underage results over the weekend looked positive overall am I right in saying Viking? Hopefully we are on the right track long term and with the new improved hurling plan being designed by Kinnerk and co we can continue to build."
Hope so too. Lot of work still needing to be done, a long road to walk still so to speak, but I think we are on the right road at least.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17176 - 01/09/2025 12:43:59    2634472

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "You get the feeling that we're not miles away and yet at the same time, we're a long way away. Ability levels aren't that far off but we just haven't made a breakthrough and for that reason, a mental block has developed and it's just kept on growing and growing, success at under-age level isn't the be all and end all, the most important thing is to produce players but we might need to win something at underage level to just break the mental block"
I agree with you we have a lot of players of a decent standard but we really need to make a breakthrough at u17 or u20 to really push things on I feel.

Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 714 - 01/09/2025 13:17:32    2634480

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Thanks for the synopsis Viking. The competitions melt my head.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1496 - 01/09/2025 13:19:06    2634481

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Thanks for the synopsis Viking. The competitions melt my head."
It's all unbelievably complicated. But then it's all about development at those agegroups.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17176 - 01/09/2025 13:57:15    2634493

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They could help out by saying what each cup is. I.e. this is the "A" cup, "B" cup, and so on.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1935 - 05/09/2025 10:24:45    2634966

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "They could help out by saying what each cup is. I.e. this is the "A" cup, "B" cup, and so on."
Think the lads involved all know what Cup is what. They all go through a qualification process.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17176 - 05/09/2025 10:36:03    2634967

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Replying To Viking66:  "Think the lads involved all know what Cup is what. They all go through a qualification process."
Yes Viking but that doesn't help us find a true perspective of where Wexford or Dublin or whoever are at in these comps. It means nothing to say "Wexford beat Cork in the John Doyle Cup" or whatever when we don't know is it the top grade, are teams equally split, and so on.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1496 - 05/09/2025 14:27:25    2635005

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Yes Viking but that doesn't help us find a true perspective of where Wexford or Dublin or whoever are at in these comps. It means nothing to say "Wexford beat Cork in the John Doyle Cup" or whatever when we don't know is it the top grade, are teams equally split, and so on."
Yeah, I don't understand myself how all these things rank alongside each other, and agree that a full explainer from the Coaching Officer or whoever else in Wexford GAA would be helpful.

For instance, I believe that U15 hurling has both the Arrabawn and John Doyle tournaments, and that both of them are split into Cup, Shield, and Plate.

But does Arrabawn Shield rank higher than John Doyle Cup? Maybe even the Arrabawn Plate is "better" than anything at all in the John Doyle? Or is it the other way around altogether?

Not expecting answers from Viking or anybody else here! Just giving examples of why a proper explainer would be useful.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3151 - 05/09/2025 15:28:00    2635017

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Yes Viking but that doesn't help us find a true perspective of where Wexford or Dublin or whoever are at in these comps. It means nothing to say "Wexford beat Cork in the John Doyle Cup" or whatever when we don't know is it the top grade, are teams equally split, and so on."
Ah ok well here goes, all these played on Finals Day-
U14- this year was organised on a regional basis. Tony Forristal was the top Munster competition and was won by East Cork. Sonny Walsh Cup was the Munster B competition.
Leinster Cup was the top Leinster competition, or A, and was won by Kilkenny. Wexford won the 3rd/4th playoff off against a Galway side.
Technically all sides were supposed to be mixed, no A and B. In practice this wasn't the case.
The Laois Cup was the Leinster B competition, featuring the 2 Dublin sides, 2 Galway sides, Laois and a Wexford side.
There were lower competitions also, Leinster Shield and Plate, Offaly Cup and Offaly Shield.

U15- the Arrabawn Cup was the top u15 tournament. Wexford failed to qualify for the Cup as we lost to Galway by a point in injury time in the final qualification game. The 4 semifinalists were Tipp, Galway, Kilkenny and Waterford. Galway beat Tipp in the final.
The Arrabawn A Shield was the next tier, featuring Cork A, Cork B, Wexford A and . Wexford beat Cork B and Cork A to win this.
The Arrabawn B Cup would be next, Tipp B played Dublin A in the final.

U16- the premier competition at this grade was the Eugene Carey Cup. Wexford A lost to Tipp A in the Semifinal, and then beat Cork A in the 3rd/4th playoff. Galway A beat Tipp A in the final.
The tier 2 competition was the Michael Foley Cup. Dublin A played Laois in 1 SF, Waterford A played Kilkenny A in the other. Dublin A beat Waterford A AET to win this competition.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17176 - 05/09/2025 15:58:37    2635023

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Yes Viking but that doesn't help us find a true perspective of where Wexford or Dublin or whoever are at in these comps. It means nothing to say "Wexford beat Cork in the John Doyle Cup" or whatever when we don't know is it the top grade, are teams equally split, and so on."
Ah ok well here goes, all these played on Finals Day-
U14- this year was organised on a regional basis. Tony Forristal was the top Munster competition and was won by East Cork. Sonny Walsh Cup was the Munster B competition.
Leinster Cup was the top Leinster competition, or A, and was won by Kilkenny. Wexford won the 3rd/4th playoff off against a Galway side.
Technically all sides were supposed to be mixed, no A and B. In practice this wasn't the case.
The Laois Cup was the Leinster B competition, featuring the 2 Dublin sides, 2 Galway sides, Laois and a Wexford side.
There were lower competitions also, Leinster Shield and Plate, Offaly Cup and Offaly Shield.

U15- the Arrabawn Cup was the top u15 tournament. Wexford failed to qualify for the Cup as we lost to Galway by a point in injury time in the final qualification game. The 4 semifinalists were Tipp, Galway, Kilkenny and Waterford. Galway beat Tipp in the final.
The Arrabawn A Shield was the next tier, featuring Cork A, Cork B, Wexford A and . Wexford beat Cork B and Cork A to win this.
The Arrabawn B Cup would be next, Tipp B played Dublin A in the final.

U16- the premier competition at this grade was the Eugene Carey Cup. Wexford A lost to Tipp A in the Semifinal, and then beat Cork A in the 3rd/4th playoff. Galway A beat Tipp A in the final.
The tier 2 competition was the Michael Foley Cup. Dublin A played Laois in 1 SF, Waterford A played Kilkenny A in the other. Dublin A beat Waterford A AET to win this competition.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17176 - 05/09/2025 16:52:15    2635030

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Yes Viking but that doesn't help us find a true perspective of where Wexford or Dublin or whoever are at in these comps. It means nothing to say "Wexford beat Cork in the John Doyle Cup" or whatever when we don't know is it the top grade, are teams equally split, and so on."
Just to qualify some of these results Clare and Limerick entered mixed teams all the way up I think.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17176 - 05/09/2025 16:53:21    2635032

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@viking66 - massive fair play and big thanks to you for that rundown on all the different competitions. Much appreciated.

In a nutshell, seems that our 'A' team standings:
- U14s, third in Leinster. Roughly there or thereabout our usual position in senior too.
- U15s, unlucky to lose in injury time in the equivalent of an All-Ireland quarter-final. If our seniors went that close to making it back to a semi-final for first time since 2019, we'd be lamenting what might have been, rather than writing it off as a bad year.
- U16s, made what was basically an All-Ireland semi-final. Again, not too shabby if you compare it against our record in senior, where we've only done better than that and made it to the final just once in the past 47 years.

Overall, seems the squads were highly competitive and not too far off the level of the eventual winners in the three age groups, so that has to be a positive sign that we're moving in the right direction, despite all the criticism you hear sometimes.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3151 - 05/09/2025 23:54:21    2635051

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Yes Viking but that doesn't help us find a true perspective of where Wexford or Dublin or whoever are at in these comps. It means nothing to say "Wexford beat Cork in the John Doyle Cup" or whatever when we don't know is it the top grade, are teams equally split, and so on."
Basically we were ended up in glorified shield competitions from what I gather. Those comp's are the scourge of Wex underage gaa too, should be scrapped.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 904 - 06/09/2025 09:07:10    2635054

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Replying To countyman2022:  "Basically we were ended up in glorified shield competitions from what I gather. Those comp's are the scourge of Wex underage gaa too, should be scrapped."
You gather wrong

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17176 - 06/09/2025 09:34:24    2635055

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "@viking66 - massive fair play and big thanks to you for that rundown on all the different competitions. Much appreciated.

In a nutshell, seems that our 'A' team standings:
- U14s, third in Leinster. Roughly there or thereabout our usual position in senior too.
- U15s, unlucky to lose in injury time in the equivalent of an All-Ireland quarter-final. If our seniors went that close to making it back to a semi-final for first time since 2019, we'd be lamenting what might have been, rather than writing it off as a bad year.
- U16s, made what was basically an All-Ireland semi-final. Again, not too shabby if you compare it against our record in senior, where we've only done better than that and made it to the final just once in the past 47 years.

Overall, seems the squads were highly competitive and not too far off the level of the eventual winners in the three age groups, so that has to be a positive sign that we're moving in the right direction, despite all the criticism you hear sometimes."
Our u14s also beat East Cork, who won the Premier Munster competition, the Tony Forristal.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17176 - 06/09/2025 09:35:31    2635056

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Replying To Viking66:  "You gather wrong"
what 'A' competitons did we come close to winning? one other Q, most counties played mixed squads or divisional squads where we went A & B, is it a worry we still couldnt win anything when playing against these set ups?

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 904 - 06/09/2025 11:28:25    2635069

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Replying To countyman2022:  "what 'A' competitons did we come close to winning? one other Q, most counties played mixed squads or divisional squads where we went A & B, is it a worry we still couldnt win anything when playing against these set ups?"
We came very close to winning the u14A Leinster Cup. Lost to a disputed last second goal to the A Kilkenny team. Beat the Tony Forristal winners also.
Won the Arrabawn Shield beating the Cork A and B teams. Only missed out being 1 of the 4 teams in the Arrabawn Cup by losing to Galway to an injury time point.
U16As won the 3rd/4th playoff in the top u16 competition.
We were competitive at the very top level in u14, u15, and u16.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17176 - 06/09/2025 14:16:20    2635079

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Replying To Viking66:  "Ah ok well here goes, all these played on Finals Day-
U14- this year was organised on a regional basis. Tony Forristal was the top Munster competition and was won by East Cork. Sonny Walsh Cup was the Munster B competition.
Leinster Cup was the top Leinster competition, or A, and was won by Kilkenny. Wexford won the 3rd/4th playoff off against a Galway side.
Technically all sides were supposed to be mixed, no A and B. In practice this wasn't the case.
The Laois Cup was the Leinster B competition, featuring the 2 Dublin sides, 2 Galway sides, Laois and a Wexford side.
There were lower competitions also, Leinster Shield and Plate, Offaly Cup and Offaly Shield.

U15- the Arrabawn Cup was the top u15 tournament. Wexford failed to qualify for the Cup as we lost to Galway by a point in injury time in the final qualification game. The 4 semifinalists were Tipp, Galway, Kilkenny and Waterford. Galway beat Tipp in the final.
The Arrabawn A Shield was the next tier, featuring Cork A, Cork B, Wexford A and . Wexford beat Cork B and Cork A to win this.
The Arrabawn B Cup would be next, Tipp B played Dublin A in the final.

U16- the premier competition at this grade was the Eugene Carey Cup. Wexford A lost to Tipp A in the Semifinal, and then beat Cork A in the 3rd/4th playoff. Galway A beat Tipp A in the final.
The tier 2 competition was the Michael Foley Cup. Dublin A played Laois in 1 SF, Waterford A played Kilkenny A in the other. Dublin A beat Waterford A AET to win this competition."
Galway should have a nice Minor Hurling team if them U-15 and U-16 players are available.

SouthGalway (Galway) - Posts: 42 - 06/09/2025 16:40:35    2635086

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Replying To Viking66:  "We came very close to winning the u14A Leinster Cup. Lost to a disputed last second goal to the A Kilkenny team. Beat the Tony Forristal winners also.
Won the Arrabawn Shield beating the Cork A and B teams. Only missed out being 1 of the 4 teams in the Arrabawn Cup by losing to Galway to an injury time point.
U16As won the 3rd/4th playoff in the top u16 competition.
We were competitive at the very top level in u14, u15, and u16."
You sure we went a and b? The article you shared last week said teams were mixed.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3951 - 06/09/2025 22:05:12    2635115

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Replying To countyman2022:  "what 'A' competitons did we come close to winning? one other Q, most counties played mixed squads or divisional squads where we went A & B, is it a worry we still couldnt win anything when playing against these set ups?"
You really are unbelievable. With a friend like you Wexford don't need enemies.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3951 - 06/09/2025 22:06:03    2635116

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