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Who Can Stop Cork This Year?

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Replying To Pjm111:  "Not sure when you started watching hurling but since I've been watching watching hurling 35 years ago Clare have the head to head over Cork. Corks first win over Clare in the nineties was in the 1999 Munster final."
You are a "johney come lately" then.

ORIELMAN85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 741 - 24/07/2025 00:02:16    2627572

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Replying To skillet:  "Its really not that amazing that neutrals went for Tipp.

Most people support the underdogs, but Cork in their heads anyway, are never underdogs.
They're arrogant, self regarding, self obsessed, with a superiority complex based solely on being from Cork and little else.

The abuse I've witnessed from their support over the last few years , whether in Cork ,Limerick or Croke park has been utterly obnoxious. Every county has an idiotic element to their following, but Cork supports sense of entitlement is off the charts.

Corks "aura' as you call it, is a diminished thing based on success from decades ago.

They've won as many all Irelands as Clare in the last 35 yrs, but you'd swear they were at Kilkenny level success in the last 20 yrs such is their carry on..

The beating Tipp gave them might give a long overdue dollop of humility.."
Big team mentality. Even when but winning, know they are still the top team traditionally, it's that mindset which has made them so successful.

This drought will end in the near future, and Cork will return to winning All Irelands. History doesn't lie. It's that mindset which will mean they are the most successful side in the country!

32_4_1 (Meath) - Posts: 4201 - 24/07/2025 00:14:15    2627573

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Replying To brayballer:  "Fionn you are after catching Langeritis off your Cork relations. For as Long as I have been working socialising and listening to Cork people in Ireland and New York I would nt believe a word out of their mouths,. In 1995 when Jayo scored a screamer and we beat Cork I was told the Cork boys were on the ****. When Derry beat them in All ireland final I was told there was a row in the dressing room at half time. When Kilkenny hurlers beat them another year I was told the players did nt like the team that was picked and there was another row. Never a problem when they win but always when they lose."
Seems to be a lot more to this one though.

Players not talking to each other after a massive bust up - hence the homecoming HAD to be cancelled.
And it didnt stop at just the players....
Gonna take more than a plaster to fix what was said and done.

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4545 - 24/07/2025 08:41:15    2627585

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "You said 'they've' 4 all irelands, trying to place them beside Limerick and KK with a 'great' label. Now you're telling me 'quite a few' played in 2010-2019, but that era didn't add up to FOUR. They won 3 in that era, despite losing the 2019 Munster Final by TWELVE points. Would Tipp 2019 be the only all ireland winning side in either code to lose their provincial final (the mythical Munster Final at that) by 12points, and be crowned 'allireland champs' in the same season. Noel McGrath is the only Tipp player with four all ireland medals 2009-2025 afaik."
Think even winning 3 in that period is pretty good. Good few Kilkenny players only won 3 of the 8 their county won in that period.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16734 - 24/07/2025 10:24:32    2627607

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Replying To 32_4_1:  "Big team mentality. Even when but winning, know they are still the top team traditionally, it's that mindset which has made them so successful.

This drought will end in the near future, and Cork will return to winning All Irelands. History doesn't lie. It's that mindset which will mean they are the most successful side in the country!"
Have you not stopped to consider that that so called big team mentality has actually cost them AI wins over the last 20 years?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16734 - 24/07/2025 10:25:56    2627611

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Replying To Fionn:  "Seems to be a lot more to this one though.

Players not talking to each other after a massive bust up - hence the homecoming HAD to be cancelled.
And it didnt stop at just the players....
Gonna take more than a plaster to fix what was said and done."
Maybe but tbh I would not believe anything from social media or from Cork.As i ve said I heard all this stuff before.I did read an article about a fall out but that was just copied from a text from some upset fan. Its very easy put anything up on social media and everyone thinks its true. I dont care enough either lol

brayballer (Wicklow) - Posts: 258 - 24/07/2025 11:38:03    2627647

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Replying To 32_4_1:  "Big team mentality. Even when but winning, know they are still the top team traditionally, it's that mindset which has made them so successful.

This drought will end in the near future, and Cork will return to winning All Irelands. History doesn't lie. It's that mindset which will mean they are the most successful side in the country!"
'They are the most successful side in the country'

- Just wondering how you are measuring this?

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6526 - 24/07/2025 12:21:20    2627661

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Replying To 32_4_1:  "Losing that final to Clare in 13 I think, really hurt. Because Clare were normally their whipping boys. Of all teams to not get that run of the mill win against them for Cork, the last team you'd expect to beat them was Clare.

Since then, Clare have beat them in two All Irelands, and a few times in Munster. Before that, their rivalry was a disgrace from a Clare point of view. One of the most one sided between two "big teams", Cork battered them for years"
You've absolutely no idea lad have you?

75 Munster Cork 3-14 Clare 1-9 (possible battering)
77 Munster Final Cork 4-15 Clare 4-10
78 Munster Final Cork 0-13 Clare 0-11
86 Munster Final, Cork 2-18 Clare 3-12
93 Munster: Cork 2-7 Clare 0-10
97 Munster: Clare 1-19 Cork 0-18
98 Munster: Clare 0-21 Cork 0-13
99 Munster Final Cork 1-15 Clare 0-14

In 1998 when with the teams level at 0-13 each, Clare kicked and hit 8 unanswered points to win. If anything, Clare were completely taking the **** under Loughnane because they met Cork in the 1998 NHL semi final and Cork won by 11, going on to win the NHL final v Waterford. 8 weeks later Clare were faster, fitter ploughed on. They'd no real interest in the NHL then and wanted Munster & All Ireland success.

The 2005 All Ireland semi finished Cork 0-16 Clare 0-15.

Roll into the next decade and it was the replayed final in 2013, the first day it was Cork 3-16 Clare 0-25, second day Clare 5-16 Cork 3-16. Then the next decade and it was Clare 3-29 Cork 1-34.

So one possible battering 50 years ago. Really not sure where the disgrace was.

Talk to any Clare person who was around for the Munster finals of 77 & 78 and they'll tell you that was one of Clare's greatest teams ever. Met Kilkenny in the NHL finals of 1976-78, losing the first heavily, winning the next 2. Just couldn't make the breakthrough in Munster.

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6526 - 24/07/2025 12:45:03    2627664

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Replying To Fionn:  "Seems to be a lot more to this one though.

Players not talking to each other after a massive bust up - hence the homecoming HAD to be cancelled.
And it didnt stop at just the players....
Gonna take more than a plaster to fix what was said and done."
Do tell

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2471 - 24/07/2025 13:55:12    2627680

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Replying To Bon:  "Do tell"
It wouldnt get past H/S Admin.... ;o)

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4545 - 24/07/2025 14:28:34    2627685

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Replying To Bon:  "Do tell"
There's quite a few detailed posts on twitter on the topic. Dunno if I can post it here but if you search relevant words you should find them. Could still all be bs of course

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12482 - 24/07/2025 14:32:56    2627689

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Every team in Munster will start again in the championship in the same place in 2026. In Leinster slightly different but most of the same combatants. We will all speculate again about winners. If the players didn't believe in themselves or had complex about any team they may as well fold their tent.
Firstly we will have the useless league that is eating up calendar space at all levels and stifling the chance to have a properly structured national competition.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3152 - 24/07/2025 14:51:40    2627694

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Every team in Munster will start again in the championship in the same place in 2026. In Leinster slightly different but most of the same combatants. We will all speculate again about winners. If the players didn't believe in themselves or had complex about any team they may as well fold their tent.
Firstly we will have the useless league that is eating up calendar space at all levels and stifling the chance to have a properly structured national competition.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3152 - 24/07/2025 14:51:59    2627697

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Replying To skillet:  "Its really not that amazing that neutrals went for Tipp.

Most people support the underdogs, but Cork in their heads anyway, are never underdogs.
They're arrogant, self regarding, self obsessed, with a superiority complex based solely on being from Cork and little else.

The abuse I've witnessed from their support over the last few years , whether in Cork ,Limerick or Croke park has been utterly obnoxious. Every county has an idiotic element to their following, but Cork supports sense of entitlement is off the charts.

Corks "aura' as you call it, is a diminished thing based on success from decades ago.

They've won as many all Irelands as Clare in the last 35 yrs, but you'd swear they were at Kilkenny level success in the last 20 yrs such is their carry on..

The beating Tipp gave them might give a long overdue dollop of humility.."
the proof of the pudding was in 2003 all ireland final ive heard this interview from one of the kilkenny players before not sure which one. he said when they were in the parade before the match and he said donal og was shouting we're from cork . that arrogance was probably there before 2003 and is still there to this day. they think they have a divine right to win all irelands. to listen to john meyler on a podcast last week there was no i hope we win or we have a great chance. he plain and simple came out with WE WILL WIN on sunday.

munsterchamps (Limerick) - Posts: 1146 - 24/07/2025 15:08:54    2627702

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Replying To munsterchamps:  "the proof of the pudding was in 2003 all ireland final ive heard this interview from one of the kilkenny players before not sure which one. he said when they were in the parade before the match and he said donal og was shouting we're from cork . that arrogance was probably there before 2003 and is still there to this day. they think they have a divine right to win all irelands. to listen to john meyler on a podcast last week there was no i hope we win or we have a great chance. he plain and simple came out with WE WILL WIN on sunday."
John Meyler isn't from Cork.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3862 - 24/07/2025 16:54:26    2627732

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "John Meyler isn't from Cork."
He is Wexford, is he not ? I think he managed Cork at one stage.

Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1764 - 24/07/2025 18:21:43    2627747

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "John Meyler isn't from Cork."
you better tell him that so because he said on a podcast last week we will win on sunday......

munsterchamps (Limerick) - Posts: 1146 - 24/07/2025 18:29:18    2627749

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Replying To Freethinker:  "He is Wexford, is he not ? I think he managed Cork at one stage."
He is from Wexford but moved to Cork to go to university and stayed there. He played club hurling and football for Finbarr's and intercounty for Cork, after playing for Wexford when he was younger.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2474 - 24/07/2025 20:55:57    2627780

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "John Meyler isn't from Cork."
True. But he played for them and managed them and he lives there.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Meyler

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6526 - 24/07/2025 22:35:19    2627798

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Replying To Freethinker:  "He is Wexford, is he not ? I think he managed Cork at one stage."
He plays for Cork, was a selector and managed underage there as well. He managed Wexford in 07/08.

He's from tacumshane in South Wexford. Near rosslare.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3862 - 24/07/2025 23:10:58    2627805

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