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Replying To slayer: "32_4_1 What are you smoking? :-)" Cork collapsed. If they play that game 10 times, Cork would win 9. They beat themselves psychologically again. Objectively they're still the best hurling team! They're their own worst enemy. It's just about getting over that line and ending the drought. They'll play Tipp in Munster next year, and probably maul them tbh. If what I'm saying isn't true, how confident would you be of Tipp beating them the next day out? Not very id assume! 32_4_1 (Meath) - Posts: 4201 - 23/07/2025 11:37:58 2627396 Link
Replying To Fionn: "It appears a few of the Cork players let themselves down, in the build up to the Final. The stories are doing the rounds, and the full story is sure to come out in the end. I heard it yesterday from two different people from the Rebel county. Didnt believe it initially, but then someone else had the same story. It is to be dealt with internally from what I heard. Look, hopefully there is no truth to it, but if there is, then...... As I posted weeks ago - Who can stop Cork - probably themselves..... (unfortunately) But as for Tipp - very well done. Heart, hunger, fight, skill and the perfect game plan. Great celebrations in Thurles last night in front of 45,000 plus fans." Never forget that everybody has a story in the aftermath of a defeat. There was some stuff going around WhatsApp in Wexford a couple of years ago after a county final that had zero truth and yet somebody put it out there. Be careful what you believe. StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1912 - 23/07/2025 11:41:10 2627399 Link
Replying To Viking66: "They won 4 AIs in that period. They beat Limerick by 4 points in 2019, and drew with them this year and 2023. In the 2021 Munster final they had a huge halftime lead over Limerick. They also beat Kilkenny in 2016, and gave them a good game in the final 10 minutes in 2011, only a score in it with 5 minutes to go. I wouldn't be a huge Tipp fan myself, but you have to give credit where it's due." Noel McGrath won 4 all-irelands. 'They' didn't win 4 all-irelands, if you're talking about 'a great team', which is what we are talking about. They lost to Limerick in the 2019 Munster Final by 12points, and by 5 in 2021. Any results post 2015 v KK weren't achieved over the 'great' KK side either. KKs 'greatness' ended around 2014 i would suggest, which doesn't diminish Tipp's achievement in 2016 or 2019, only to acknowledge that those all-irelands weren't won against the 'great' KK side. Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4352 - 23/07/2025 11:43:36 2627401 Link
Replying To WanPintWin: "They also could have won in 2014 the first day. Corbett hitting the crossbar and O'Dwyer's missed free. They put in a lot of top quality performances in finals over the period." Losing that final to Clare in 13 I think, really hurt. Because Clare were normally their whipping boys. Of all teams to not get that run of the mill win against them for Cork, the last team you'd expect to beat them was Clare. Since then, Clare have beat them in two All Irelands, and a few times in Munster. Before that, their rivalry was a disgrace from a Clare point of view. One of the most one sided between two "big teams", Cork battered them for years 32_4_1 (Meath) - Posts: 4201 - 23/07/2025 11:43:58 2627402 Link
It's amazing how many people were desperate for Tipp to win, neutrals, despite Cork not winning it in 20 years. They are the "big" team of hurling. They carry that aura. Even when not winning, they are THE team! 32_4_1 (Meath) - Posts: 4201 - 23/07/2025 11:50:04 2627404 Link
Replying To StoreysTash: "Never forget that everybody has a story in the aftermath of a defeat. There was some stuff going around WhatsApp in Wexford a couple of years ago after a county final that had zero truth and yet somebody put it out there. Be careful what you believe." Yep exactly. I have heard plenty of stories about the Dubs over the years also in fairness. Some true and some not so true. Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4545 - 23/07/2025 12:26:23 2627416 Link
Replying To clooney: "Not sure I would take too much notice of any of that talk if they won there would be nothing said another rumour was that there was a bust up after match that's why homecoming was cancelled i am sure is nonsense. Ids say Cork have plenty of knowledge within County and they will analyse what went wrong and address it I remembers Liam Cahill stunned on the line with a Waterford no show think it was in Ennis and also with Tipp last year this year he has the freedom of Tipp. A win makes all the difference there are never ant fear of the Big 3 going too far away and Cork will be back next year as strong as ever still had a fabulous year League & Munster Final. Counties like ourselves and Waterford are a force every decade or so Limerick were a bit like that too until that great team arrived one thing for sure in order to win an AI you need an injury free run and a bit of luck to. Overall not the greatest of hurling championships IMO Tipp will be a force for a long time now loads of underage success with Brendan Cummins who is in his own right a master tactician" Yes, I heard that bust up had a lot to do what what happened in the lead up to the final. But sure we will probably never know the full story. Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4545 - 23/07/2025 12:29:02 2627417 Link
Replying To clooney: "Not sure I would take too much notice of any of that talk if they won there would be nothing said another rumour was that there was a bust up after match that's why homecoming was cancelled i am sure is nonsense. Ids say Cork have plenty of knowledge within County and they will analyse what went wrong and address it I remembers Liam Cahill stunned on the line with a Waterford no show think it was in Ennis and also with Tipp last year this year he has the freedom of Tipp. A win makes all the difference there are never ant fear of the Big 3 going too far away and Cork will be back next year as strong as ever still had a fabulous year League & Munster Final. Counties like ourselves and Waterford are a force every decade or so Limerick were a bit like that too until that great team arrived one thing for sure in order to win an AI you need an injury free run and a bit of luck to. Overall not the greatest of hurling championships IMO Tipp will be a force for a long time now loads of underage success with Brendan Cummins who is in his own right a master tactician" I think the 2026 Hurling Championship is wide open. So many teams that could win it, which is great for the game. Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4545 - 23/07/2025 12:30:55 2627419 Link
Replying To 32_4_1: "Cork collapsed. If they play that game 10 times, Cork would win 9. They beat themselves psychologically again. Objectively they're still the best hurling team! They're their own worst enemy. It's just about getting over that line and ending the drought. They'll play Tipp in Munster next year, and probably maul them tbh. If what I'm saying isn't true, how confident would you be of Tipp beating them the next day out? Not very id assume!" Cork didn't collapse, they wilted. And they wilted because Tipp played them off the park in the second half. No ifs buts or maybes. I was at the game and I'd bought into the Cork hype too. Fully expected them to kick on in the second half when they got their goal. Tipp clearly hadn't bought into the hype and they played at a much higher level from start to finish despite a few poor wides in the first half. Cork didn't miss 3 or 4 goal chances, they missed 3 or 4 chances of a second goal. If they'd scored then Tipp would have made some adjustments. So this 12 points or whatever that Cork allegedly missed is illusory. The best team is the team with the cup. That's how you judge it. With regard to playing Tipp in Munster next year, those games are not as important as knockout. Meath beat Kerry in the football group stages this year, who even remembers? But it's a very different game in Croke Park. The Derry football team are an example of a hype team, pumped up with expectations beyond their talents, won the league, made it to all-ireland semi-finals etc, where are they now? Are Cork a hype team? Maybe. They might be a great team some day but you have to win the cup first. At the moment they're the second best and next year who knows? What they are not is the best team in the country. That team is Tipperary. PolicemanFox (Monaghan) - Posts: 201 - 23/07/2025 12:51:04 2627428 Link
Replying To Fionn: "I think the 2026 Hurling Championship is wide open. So many teams that could win it, which is great for the game." Definitely in my opinion, Tipp, Limerick, Clare, Cork ( they are miles better than they showed Sunday) and Kilkenny could win it. Waterford and Galway need a bit of tweaking, then Wexford and Dublin on a given day, but unfortunate every day Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1763 - 23/07/2025 12:52:58 2627429 Link
Replying To Freethinker: "Definitely in my opinion, Tipp, Limerick, Clare, Cork ( they are miles better than they showed Sunday) and Kilkenny could win it. Waterford and Galway need a bit of tweaking, then Wexford and Dublin on a given day, but unfortunate every day" Spot on. That pretty much sums it up perfectly, in fairness. Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4545 - 23/07/2025 13:41:32 2627444 Link
Replying To Fionn: "Yes, I heard that bust up had a lot to do what what happened in the lead up to the final. But sure we will probably never know the full story." Fionn you are after catching Langeritis off your Cork relations. For as Long as I have been working socialising and listening to Cork people in Ireland and New York I would nt believe a word out of their mouths,. In 1995 when Jayo scored a screamer and we beat Cork I was told the Cork boys were on the **. When Derry beat them in All ireland final I was told there was a row in the dressing room at half time. When Kilkenny hurlers beat them another year I was told the players did nt like the team that was picked and there was another row. Never a problem when they win but always when they lose. brayballer (Wicklow)** - Posts: 258 - 23/07/2025 17:04:50 2627496 Link
Replying To 32_4_1: "It's amazing how many people were desperate for Tipp to win, neutrals, despite Cork not winning it in 20 years. They are the "big" team of hurling. They carry that aura. Even when not winning, they are THE team!" Why is that amazing? Just read your last 3 sentences of that post back. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16734 - 23/07/2025 17:50:25 2627512 Link
Replying To 32_4_1: "Losing that final to Clare in 13 I think, really hurt. Because Clare were normally their whipping boys. Of all teams to not get that run of the mill win against them for Cork, the last team you'd expect to beat them was Clare. Since then, Clare have beat them in two All Irelands, and a few times in Munster. Before that, their rivalry was a disgrace from a Clare point of view. One of the most one sided between two "big teams", Cork battered them for years" Clare weren't a big team for most of those years. But in the last 30 years Clare have won more AIs. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16734 - 23/07/2025 17:52:20 2627515 Link
Replying To Pope_Benedict: "Noel McGrath won 4 all-irelands. 'They' didn't win 4 all-irelands, if you're talking about 'a great team', which is what we are talking about. They lost to Limerick in the 2019 Munster Final by 12points, and by 5 in 2021. Any results post 2015 v KK weren't achieved over the 'great' KK side either. KKs 'greatness' ended around 2014 i would suggest, which doesn't diminish Tipp's achievement in 2016 or 2019, only to acknowledge that those all-irelands weren't won against the 'great' KK side." The original point was that there were 2 great teams. I think there were 3. 4 if you count the number of different players used by Kilkenny between 2005 and 2015. Quite a few Tipp lads played in 2010, 2016 and 2019. You said their record against Limerick was poor and that they didnt beat them, I merely pointed out that they did beat them in Championship in 2019, and drew with them twice in Championship since that. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16734 - 23/07/2025 17:56:06 2627517 Link
Replying To Newyorkkat: "When kk dominance came to a end 2006 to 2015. Lk came the next year and are not done." Limerick didn't do much in 2016. Tipp beat them well in the Munster semifinal. Not much in 2017 either, they lost to Clare in the Munster semifinal. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16734 - 23/07/2025 18:35:45 2627524 Link
Replying To 32_4_1: "It's amazing how many people were desperate for Tipp to win, neutrals, despite Cork not winning it in 20 years. They are the "big" team of hurling. They carry that aura. Even when not winning, they are THE team!" Its really not that amazing that neutrals went for Tipp. Most people support the underdogs, but Cork in their heads anyway, are never underdogs. They're arrogant, self regarding, self obsessed, with a superiority complex based solely on being from Cork and little else. The abuse I've witnessed from their support over the last few years , whether in Cork ,Limerick or Croke park has been utterly obnoxious. Every county has an idiotic element to their following, but Cork supports sense of entitlement is off the charts. Corks "aura' as you call it, is a diminished thing based on success from decades ago. They've won as many all Irelands as Clare in the last 35 yrs, but you'd swear they were at Kilkenny level success in the last 20 yrs such is their carry on.. The beating Tipp gave them might give a long overdue dollop of humility.. skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1117 - 23/07/2025 18:46:22 2627527 Link
Replying To 32_4_1: "Losing that final to Clare in 13 I think, really hurt. Because Clare were normally their whipping boys. Of all teams to not get that run of the mill win against them for Cork, the last team you'd expect to beat them was Clare. Since then, Clare have beat them in two All Irelands, and a few times in Munster. Before that, their rivalry was a disgrace from a Clare point of view. One of the most one sided between two "big teams", Cork battered them for years" Not sure when you started watching hurling but since I've been watching watching hurling 35 years ago Clare have the head to head over Cork. Corks first win over Clare in the nineties was in the 1999 Munster final. Pjm111 (Clare) - Posts: 18 - 23/07/2025 19:04:53 2627530 Link
Replying To Viking66: "The original point was that there were 2 great teams. I think there were 3. 4 if you count the number of different players used by Kilkenny between 2005 and 2015. Quite a few Tipp lads played in 2010, 2016 and 2019. You said their record against Limerick was poor and that they didnt beat them, I merely pointed out that they did beat them in Championship in 2019, and drew with them twice in Championship since that." You said 'they've' 4 all irelands, trying to place them beside Limerick and KK with a 'great' label. Now you're telling me 'quite a few' played in 2010-2019, but that era didn't add up to FOUR. They won 3 in that era, despite losing the 2019 Munster Final by TWELVE points. Would Tipp 2019 be the only all ireland winning side in either code to lose their provincial final (the mythical Munster Final at that) by 12points, and be crowned 'allireland champs' in the same season. Noel McGrath is the only Tipp player with four all ireland medals 2009-2025 afaik. Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4352 - 23/07/2025 23:19:09 2627564 Link
Replying To LimerickForLiam24: "Cork playing some exceptional hurling this year. League in the bag and one foot in the Munster final. Have the best of forwards. They have Limerick numbers. Who can stop Cork? https://hoganstand.com/Cork/Article/Index/336114 https://hoganstand.com/Cork#google_vignette" Tipp... Timmy86 (Sligo) - Posts: 339 - 23/07/2025 23:41:43 2627567 Link