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Replying To Doylerwex: "People don't agree with my view but I believe the point of a club is to provide county players. I love my club, but if players aren't trying to reach the level where they dream of trophies for Wexford in croke Park then we're doing it wrong. If we weren't producing county players I would consider the club a massive failure. It's clear one club in particular has no interest in the county and has been that way for nearly 20 years. A real shame because they produced the best hurler ever to play the game in my opinion. Granted I never saw him but my grandfather was adamant about it and he saw all the greats of that era in the flesh." Simon Roche is dropped from the panel you are saying ?or was it that he didn't get picked in the 26 for the Galway game? hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1133 - 12/05/2025 15:36:17 2608894 Link
Replying To Doylerwex: "People don't agree with my view but I believe the point of a club is to provide county players. I love my club, but if players aren't trying to reach the level where they dream of trophies for Wexford in croke Park then we're doing it wrong. If we weren't producing county players I would consider the club a massive failure. It's clear one club in particular has no interest in the county and has been that way for nearly 20 years. A real shame because they produced the best hurler ever to play the game in my opinion. Granted I never saw him but my grandfather was adamant about it and he saw all the greats of that era in the flesh." It's a shame Guiney didn't play more, and that Lawlor and AJ didnt/dont want to commit to Senior. I'm not sure there are too many others that would be good enough, hopefully Jack Redmond can just speed up his hurling a little more, he's got great potential. Maybe Wickham also if he gets bigger. Higgins if he can stay uninjured for any length of time. And I also think Michael Redmond has been one of the most underrated club hurlers of recent years, but probably is now too old to embark on an intercounty career. I'm not sure you can give them credit for producing Nicky Rackard, many would say Kierans produced him, and he produced Rathnure as a top hurling club. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15731 - 12/05/2025 15:39:57 2608899 Link
Providing players for the County team is an afterthought with many clubs if not all. And to be honest a lot of the blame lies with the county teams and squads imho. I've seen clubs struggling to get teams out with players away in county and development squads. Managers dictating what games playera can play fkr their clubs despite a lot of these players being fringe squad players and others forbidding players playing the other code for their clubs. The current situation of managers telling clubs what players they will allow play participating annoys me. It's May and Clubs have been training without once seeing their own players in the pitch, of course there's going to be a disconnect. That's why I like the way John Hegarty has gone about things, allowing players to play for their club in league games where possible and that's at senior level yet I know clubs with county players at underage who haven't even had a training session with some of their players cos they aren't being released. There are clubs too who have a genuine disconn3ct to the county team. tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1500 - 12/05/2025 15:40:30 2608900 Link
Replying To tearintom: "Providing players for the County team is an afterthought with many clubs if not all. And to be honest a lot of the blame lies with the county teams and squads imho. I've seen clubs struggling to get teams out with players away in county and development squads. Managers dictating what games playera can play fkr their clubs despite a lot of these players being fringe squad players and others forbidding players playing the other code for their clubs. The current situation of managers telling clubs what players they will allow play participating annoys me. It's May and Clubs have been training without once seeing their own players in the pitch, of course there's going to be a disconnect. That's why I like the way John Hegarty has gone about things, allowing players to play for their club in league games where possible and that's at senior level yet I know clubs with county players at underage who haven't even had a training session with some of their players cos they aren't being released. There are clubs too who have a genuine disconn3ct to the county team." In fairness Keith has done likewise. Lads like Darren Codd played for their clubs in League games. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15731 - 12/05/2025 15:43:24 2608904 Link
If we're being truthful, we've consistently been somewhere between the 5th best team and the 10th best team in Ireland since the 1970s I don't know if now is any different, some times we've been closer to the top end and other times closer to the bottom end but never really in that top echelon. KK, Cork, and Tipp have won the most AIs and if you look back at the last 50s years, they've generally been the best three teams. It changes around sometimes; right now, it's Limerick and Cork as the top two with KK probably in behind them If you look at our Minor and U20 results in the last 10 years, our teams have broadly been in that 5th-10th range for the most part, the Minor team from both last year and this year would fit into that category. Good enough to compete and on their day maybe beat everyone but not good enough consistently to win a provincial title or an AI Again, if you look at those below us, as much as some in here are very disappointed by our under-age results, they generally are noticeably better than Laois, Offaly, Westmeath etc. That Offaly U20 team look a bit like a one-off and while a good team, this year's Laois U20 team are probably similar. We're in a bit of a holding pattern because our under-age results aren't good enough to win Senior AIs but barring chronic under-performance, the results aren't bad enough to suggest that we should be Joe McDonagh. This is not saying that we aren't at risk of being relegated in the future, just that it would be less to do with ability and more to do with badly under-performing ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 498 - 12/05/2025 15:45:46 2608906 Link
Replying To Viking66: "I don't think he's underrated. He has 3 all stars. Every hurling man I know knows he's a class act." He only has 1 all star mr305 (Galway) - Posts: 54 - 12/05/2025 15:49:00 2608907 Link
Replying To Cockney_Cat: "Here's the best that I could find online. It was used last year. "If two teams finish on equal points then they will be separated by their head-to-head record. If three or more teams finish on the same points then the teams are separated by the number of League Points obtained in the 'Head-to-Head' games between those teams, followed by the higher scoring difference in these 'Head-to-Head' games, the higher Scoring Difference in all games in the round-robin phase, the higher Scores For in all games in the round-robin phase, and failing that, a play-off."" Judging by that if we win and then if Dublin shock Kilkenny we can bring our hopes then to the final day. Cant see Kilkenny slipping up though. I think we could be out if Galway beat Antrim and KK beat Dublin? Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 585 - 12/05/2025 16:02:39 2608912 Link
Replying To mr305: "He only has 1 all star" My bad. I thought he had more. He should have more, how about that ;-) Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15731 - 12/05/2025 16:09:32 2608913 Link
Replying To Viking66: "In fairness Keith has done likewise. Lads like Darren Codd played for their clubs in League games." I thought that he might but I wasn't sure. My point was towards the fact there's more flexibility with adult senior than with underage and how that annoys many clubs who almost see havjng county players as a hindrance. Our minors had to forego games cos players weren't allowed play for their clubs where on the same week their adult team played a game against another club who were allowed their county players. tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1500 - 12/05/2025 16:13:20 2608918 Link
I don't want to be too hard on the player but it struck me a few weeks ago how we do tend to celebrate mediocrity in Wexford when there was a good deal of publicity given to a certain player making his 100th appearance. I wasn't aware he had played that many times and while it is a great achievement, let's be honest, there is no way he would have played nearly as many times for counties like KK, Limerick, Cork etc. And yes I know they prob have a deeper pool of players to pick from but that's no excuse either. We wonder where we are going wrong and debate about underage coaching structures etc yet continually select certain players who are just not good enough. That struck me particularly hard as I watched him amble his way around Salthill on Saturday afternoon for the entire 70 minutes with one hand on the hurl looking lost and having zero impact on the game. Purpleandgold72 (Wexford) - Posts: 258 - 12/05/2025 16:48:39 2608930 Link
Replying To Afinestick96: "Judging by that if we win and then if Dublin shock Kilkenny we can bring our hopes then to the final day. Cant see Kilkenny slipping up though. I think we could be out if Galway beat Antrim and KK beat Dublin?" Not a hope in hell. But John Mullane has the answer. The top 4 teams go through to the All Ireland Quarter Finals, 1st in Munster plays 4th in Leinster and vice versa. Top two teams get a home venue. Kilkenny v Waterford Nowlan Park Galway v Tipp Salthill Cork v Dublin Páirc Uí Chaoimh Limerick v Wexford Gaelic Grounds WEX98 (Wexford) - Posts: 507 - 12/05/2025 18:09:21 2608964 Link
The lads on the KCLR hurling podcast reckon Wexford are Joe McDonagh standard. WEX98 (Wexford) - Posts: 507 - 12/05/2025 18:11:51 2608965 Link
Replying To Viking66: "It's a shame Guiney didn't play more, and that Lawlor and AJ didnt/dont want to commit to Senior. I'm not sure there are too many others that would be good enough, hopefully Jack Redmond can just speed up his hurling a little more, he's got great potential. Maybe Wickham also if he gets bigger. Higgins if he can stay uninjured for any length of time. And I also think Michael Redmond has been one of the most underrated club hurlers of recent years, but probably is now too old to embark on an intercounty career. I'm not sure you can give them credit for producing Nicky Rackard, many would say Kierans produced him, and he produced Rathnure as a top hurling club." Just on the Rathnure point, it could be argued that apart from Paul Codd, whose star was waning by the time we won Leinster in 2004, there hasn't been a consistent starter from the black and amber since the John Conran/Jimmy Holohan era. John O'Connor was a bolter that year captaining the team, and I know the Guineys floated around for a while, but neither were first-teamers really (Jack too unreliable). Flynn played in nets for a spell in that era post-Fitzy, and Nigel Higgins had a brief period as a starter too. But I always felt that they had excellent club players without that translating to the county team (Anthony O'Connell as good a corner back I have seen in the county, O'Learys hardy hurlers too). Two sets of the best ever hurling brothers before that obviously with the Rackards and Quigleys which is incredible in itself. The Alley are similar actually. Ciaran Kenny probably their most prominent county man after Tom Dempsey (Willie Doran in and out as a regular, Andrew Kenny never fulfilled his potential unfortunately). Again, another outstanding hurling family before that. Oulart in contrast always seem to produce regulars up to very recently. And their nine-year gap without a title is a mere blip compared to the other two. beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1492 - 12/05/2025 18:29:32 2608972 Link
Replying To Doylerwex: "Super post. I personally love the Griffin quotes. The man is a hurling evangelist. You're right of course. We're playing for a way of life now. However I don't think underage success is all important but it certainly helps. I think what hurts people the most is from the outside it looks like we're doing this to ourselves so often. I can live with being beaten if we've done everything in our control and Lost to a superior team. I might be delusional, but far too often that just isn't the case." Liam Griffin was one of those guys that if he couldn't motivate you nobody could. Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2320 - 12/05/2025 18:47:28 2608981 Link
Replying To ElGranSenor: "Does anyone have the permutations at hand from Leinster GAA for a three-way tie? Was looking for them but can't find Would've thought that a three-way tie would be settled by a mini-league based on the three games between the three teams rather than score difference" For Wexford, the permutations would involve a trip to Lady's Island to pray for both yourselves and us. ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1340 - 12/05/2025 21:27:32 2609015 Link
hunting, I am not even from Wexford and knew the club he was on about! ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1340 - 12/05/2025 21:30:18 2609016 Link
Replying To countyman2022: "I am not getting mixed up- maybe you are not aware of Kennedys performance against Carlow, no other keeper to have on bench currently since it. Roche has been gone from panel since Dublin game." Didn't Simon Roche come on v Dublin? Left the panel in the week after it?? That's really strange. Rossi fronted up after the game, he always does to be fair. He knows the buck stops with him. I think Franks as coach has been a disaster too after a very positive start. We are genuinely clueless with and without the ball. We are still reliant on a core of players who were there for both Westmeath games and the Antrim defeat last year. Appalling league display like KK & Cork this year and Clare at home a few years back. The odd performance like v KK or Galway doesn't matter to be honest, there hadn't been a consistent level of performance since DFs time. Downing tools has become commonplace. Yes the referee was harsh on us in Dublin for the penalty but does that excuse two more similar goals being conceded in the next 5 minutes? Antrim two goals last year, ran straight through our non existent number 6. Dublin, two goals carbon copies of each other in last few minutes. We are in a real rut and fortunate Antrim and Offaly are so poor this year. Cork or Limerick would genuinely annihilate us on current form. The absolute bare minimum of giving your all is beyond some experienced players so move them on and quickly. That's why I can't believe why both Cian's weren't started v Salthill. Do we really need to see their replacements fail yet again? Id much prefer to see younger lads given a chance v Offaly and KK. Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 404 - 12/05/2025 21:36:18 2609018 Link