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Wexford Hurling thread 2024

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "That depends on who the opposition is. We generally play an extra defender. That's what it's for.

Past his best no doubt, but Richie Kehoe would be a better hurler than chinner based on the criteria I've described"
I think for the last 6/7 years chin has been the most important player we have,he's the go to man,when he plays well Wexford play well!!! He's the poster boy of Wexford hurling and he deserves it all as he has put so much into his game and profile!!! As regards the best hurler I'd agreed we have seen better hurlers in the purple and gold and yes we have better hurlers in the team now than him!!! A long list of better hurlers ahead of him from years gone by but he's so important to us!!! As regards Richie kehoe yes a fabulous hurler who had it all and still has,extremely unlucky with the years he was around with Wexford been at a low ebb!!! Gizzy,stamp,Rossi,Jacob,Codd to name but a few!!!Richie always played well with Wexford and he hurled on some of the all time greats of the game,he was a real championship hurler,a great hurler!!! He absolutely kept the harriers afloat along with berry through the barren years also!!! Would have been great to see his likes in this team!!! Let's be honest Lee is an unbelievable athlete with huge leadership qualities and absolutely we need him right and hurling more than anyone else!!!

theboys (Wexford) - Posts: 298 - 06/02/2024 10:01:29    2524700

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Replying To Viking66:  "I used to be very critical of Jacko for his inability to catch ball on account of his height but I've realised I'm being unfair to him. It's not a strength of his and never was at intercounty level, and likely never will be. What he's particularly strong at is running with the ball, breaking tackles etc, and shooting well off both sides. If he's up for the game, which is a big IF, he covers ground well and gets on alot of ball and usually scores well. When he's not he hardly moves and contributes next to nothing. Don't know him so I don't know what motivates him but if he could find some consistency he'd be a nailed on starter, but not as a ball winner. We haven't had great high ball winning half forwards in what seems like forever, the lad that can't be named on this forum who moved to San Francisco probably, so we need to mix up our puckouts more is all. We can't go out and sign a fella, so we need to play to our strengths."
Hahaha "can't be named"

To be fair to jacko he's very good at breaking a high Ball to ground for a runner.

When there's a supporting player close to him we can maintain possession.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4374 - 06/02/2024 10:27:14    2524705

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Replying To Viking66:  "Kevin Foley is one of the best hurlers, under the Doylerwex criteria, on the panel. He seems to have got himself very fit and has played well every game since he came back for the SETU Waterford game. He's a starter for me at the minute. Shane wouldn't be any more a nailed on starter than Donohue. But obviously if we are playing a team that has a man needing man marked Shane is the mann for the job. Lots of lads putting their hands up hopefully as the pitches dry out and hurling speeds up they will be able to speed up with it!"
I agree on Foley.

It's very early to be talking about form but he's been at his best in the 4 games so far.

If he maintains this level for the season he could finish Wexford's hurler of the year.

Also thanks for applying my criteria haha. He's an excellent example as he demonstrated in the sweeper role with Davy

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4374 - 06/02/2024 10:29:44    2524706

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Replying To theboys:  "I think for the last 6/7 years chin has been the most important player we have,he's the go to man,when he plays well Wexford play well!!! He's the poster boy of Wexford hurling and he deserves it all as he has put so much into his game and profile!!! As regards the best hurler I'd agreed we have seen better hurlers in the purple and gold and yes we have better hurlers in the team now than him!!! A long list of better hurlers ahead of him from years gone by but he's so important to us!!! As regards Richie kehoe yes a fabulous hurler who had it all and still has,extremely unlucky with the years he was around with Wexford been at a low ebb!!! Gizzy,stamp,Rossi,Jacob,Codd to name but a few!!!Richie always played well with Wexford and he hurled on some of the all time greats of the game,he was a real championship hurler,a great hurler!!! He absolutely kept the harriers afloat along with berry through the barren years also!!! Would have been great to see his likes in this team!!! Let's be honest Lee is an unbelievable athlete with huge leadership qualities and absolutely we need him right and hurling more than anyone else!!!"
Agree 100% this is exactly the point I was making

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4374 - 06/02/2024 11:15:13    2524717

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Conor Foley nominated for HOTW

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19009 - 06/02/2024 12:24:27    2524730

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On the topic of possible championship starters for defence I'd see Damien Reck and Liam Ryan as certs, unlike 1 or 2 here I'd have O'Hanlon in the same bracket for his ability to shut down a physical threat from the opposition and also think he's well able to take a score if an opportunity arises like with Molloy and Conor Foley on Sunday and more comfortable in possession than he's given credit for, if Conor Foley maintains his form over the league he'll be impossible to leave out too. I wouldn't have had Donohoe as a certain starter but getting appointed Vice Captain could be a clue management do see him that way, a month ago I would have had Shane Reck as a cert but if the new faces maintain their form he could be under pressure and that's a good thing, you want competition for places.

In terms of the front 8 positions Chin goes without saying and I'd have ROC nailed on too, Kevin Foley had a poor 2 years under Darragh Egan but if he maintains his form will be back in nailed on starter territory, I'd start a fit Oisin Foley too for his ball winning ability and physicality. Jacko and Conor Mc are 2 inconsistent to be nailed on for me, Liam Og obviously his availability is very doubtful and I'd see a fit Dee as a certain 1st 20 player but not sure if he's a cert for 1st 15. We've seen plenty of flashes from new players in these positions so far this year, if I was to pick the most consistent performer of those it would probably be Corey Byrne Dunbar and while not new to the panel Hearne has been consistent enough too.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 06/02/2024 13:31:07    2524745

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "On the topic of possible championship starters for defence I'd see Damien Reck and Liam Ryan as certs, unlike 1 or 2 here I'd have O'Hanlon in the same bracket for his ability to shut down a physical threat from the opposition and also think he's well able to take a score if an opportunity arises like with Molloy and Conor Foley on Sunday and more comfortable in possession than he's given credit for, if Conor Foley maintains his form over the league he'll be impossible to leave out too. I wouldn't have had Donohoe as a certain starter but getting appointed Vice Captain could be a clue management do see him that way, a month ago I would have had Shane Reck as a cert but if the new faces maintain their form he could be under pressure and that's a good thing, you want competition for places.

In terms of the front 8 positions Chin goes without saying and I'd have ROC nailed on too, Kevin Foley had a poor 2 years under Darragh Egan but if he maintains his form will be back in nailed on starter territory, I'd start a fit Oisin Foley too for his ball winning ability and physicality. Jacko and Conor Mc are 2 inconsistent to be nailed on for me, Liam Og obviously his availability is very doubtful and I'd see a fit Dee as a certain 1st 20 player but not sure if he's a cert for 1st 15. We've seen plenty of flashes from new players in these positions so far this year, if I was to pick the most consistent performer of those it would probably be Corey Byrne Dunbar and while not new to the panel Hearne has been consistent enough too."
Think Conor Hearne has played very well the last year now. He looked absolutely wrecked tired coming off the pitch in Nowlan Park after 5 or 6 weeks playing games on the bounce. I'd maybe start Dunbar or Doran instead of him the next day to give him a break. When lads are tired they are more susceptible to injury. Is Mikey Kelly injured? If not I'd maybe start him and Molloy wingbacks on Saturday, or maybe Dundon, and give Charlie Mcguckin a day off also he looked mentally tired the last day also and has been playing Fitzgibbon the last couple of weeks for UCD. Maybe Donohue at 6 if Reck is banned. Same back 3 as generally they don't have to do the same running as the middle 8, or maybe swap in Paudie Casey for 1 of the 2 cornerbacks.
And filter back in the lads like Rory, Mac, Oisin Foley, Jippo, Dwyer, O Hanlon, Mac in the last 3 games see how their form is and get real gametime.
I'd also like to see Darragh Carley, Conor Mahoney and Cathal Doyle get a game towards the end of the League also.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19009 - 06/02/2024 14:28:03    2524760

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Replying To Viking66:  "Think Conor Hearne has played very well the last year now. He looked absolutely wrecked tired coming off the pitch in Nowlan Park after 5 or 6 weeks playing games on the bounce. I'd maybe start Dunbar or Doran instead of him the next day to give him a break. When lads are tired they are more susceptible to injury. Is Mikey Kelly injured? If not I'd maybe start him and Molloy wingbacks on Saturday, or maybe Dundon, and give Charlie Mcguckin a day off also he looked mentally tired the last day also and has been playing Fitzgibbon the last couple of weeks for UCD. Maybe Donohue at 6 if Reck is banned. Same back 3 as generally they don't have to do the same running as the middle 8, or maybe swap in Paudie Casey for 1 of the 2 cornerbacks.
And filter back in the lads like Rory, Mac, Oisin Foley, Jippo, Dwyer, O Hanlon, Mac in the last 3 games see how their form is and get real gametime.
I'd also like to see Darragh Carley, Conor Mahoney and Cathal Doyle get a game towards the end of the League also."
Think Dundon is out for the weekend, got injured playing Fitzgibbon last week was meant to be in the 26 on Sunday. Open to correction but don't think Reck is suspended for the weekend but if he gets another red this year he will weather its a straight red, 2 yellows or yellow and back card.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 06/02/2024 14:51:56    2524768

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Replying To Viking66:  "Think Conor Hearne has played very well the last year now. He looked absolutely wrecked tired coming off the pitch in Nowlan Park after 5 or 6 weeks playing games on the bounce. I'd maybe start Dunbar or Doran instead of him the next day to give him a break. When lads are tired they are more susceptible to injury. Is Mikey Kelly injured? If not I'd maybe start him and Molloy wingbacks on Saturday, or maybe Dundon, and give Charlie Mcguckin a day off also he looked mentally tired the last day also and has been playing Fitzgibbon the last couple of weeks for UCD. Maybe Donohue at 6 if Reck is banned. Same back 3 as generally they don't have to do the same running as the middle 8, or maybe swap in Paudie Casey for 1 of the 2 cornerbacks.
And filter back in the lads like Rory, Mac, Oisin Foley, Jippo, Dwyer, O Hanlon, Mac in the last 3 games see how their form is and get real gametime.
I'd also like to see Darragh Carley, Conor Mahoney and Cathal Doyle get a game towards the end of the League also."
And Dee and Mogie, if back, in that last paragraph.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19009 - 06/02/2024 14:54:55    2524769

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Replying To Viking66:  "And Dee and Mogie, if back, in that last paragraph."
2nd last paragraph. Apparently Michael Dundon pulled his hamstring hurling for SETU Carlow accordingto the People. Hope its not too bad. Also Casey will be starting for them against Waterford so maybe best not to play him against Offaly.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19009 - 06/02/2024 15:05:14    2524772

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Replying To Viking66:  "And Dee and Mogie, if back, in that last paragraph."
Is Liam Og definitely returning?

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 06/02/2024 15:05:14    2524773

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Replying To Viking66:  "2nd last paragraph. Apparently Michael Dundon pulled his hamstring hurling for SETU Carlow accordingto the People. Hope its not too bad. Also Casey will be starting for them against Waterford so maybe best not to play him against Offaly."
Who else is involved in fitzgibbon this week

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 06/02/2024 15:26:38    2524779

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "Do you think lawlor is out of the equation?

Possibly being a little hard on oisin Foley. I would consider him very good for winning primary possession and playing a very direct game.

To be fair to jacko he's been very honest about his performances himself. He knows what he needs to do so hopefully this is the year."
Not necessarily on GK front. But whoever he decides to go with for Championship will need as much game time as possible between now and then.

OpenStandWall (Wexford) - Posts: 345 - 06/02/2024 15:44:59    2524785

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Replying To Afinestick:  "Is Liam Og definitely returning?"
Not sure. Be great if he did he's some player!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19009 - 06/02/2024 15:50:34    2524787

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Replying To OpenStandWall:  "Not necessarily on GK front. But whoever he decides to go with for Championship will need as much game time as possible between now and then."
Lawlor will be playing for SETU Carlow again this week. Would like to see Duggan against Offaly tbh.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19009 - 06/02/2024 15:58:21    2524790

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Replying To Afinestick:  "Who else is involved in fitzgibbon this week"
Pauric Wickham from Adamstown for SETU Waterford. Lawlor and Casey for SETU Carlow. Dundon is injured but would've been starting if not. They'd be the starters. James Rossiter, Callum Corcoran, Oisin Pepper and Aaron Byrne are also on Carlows panel. Darragh Hayes is on the Waterford panel. Had more lads on the UCD and DCU teams but they've been knocked out already. DCU were a little unlucky.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19009 - 06/02/2024 16:06:06    2524794

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Replying To Viking66:  "Think Conor Hearne has played very well the last year now. He looked absolutely wrecked tired coming off the pitch in Nowlan Park after 5 or 6 weeks playing games on the bounce. I'd maybe start Dunbar or Doran instead of him the next day to give him a break. When lads are tired they are more susceptible to injury. Is Mikey Kelly injured? If not I'd maybe start him and Molloy wingbacks on Saturday, or maybe Dundon, and give Charlie Mcguckin a day off also he looked mentally tired the last day also and has been playing Fitzgibbon the last couple of weeks for UCD. Maybe Donohue at 6 if Reck is banned. Same back 3 as generally they don't have to do the same running as the middle 8, or maybe swap in Paudie Casey for 1 of the 2 cornerbacks.
And filter back in the lads like Rory, Mac, Oisin Foley, Jippo, Dwyer, O Hanlon, Mac in the last 3 games see how their form is and get real gametime.
I'd also like to see Darragh Carley, Conor Mahoney and Cathal Doyle get a game towards the end of the League also."
Conor Hearne definitely needs a weekend off.

Finished with Wexford in the summer straight into senior club hurling and then straight into senior club football until November and then back in with the Wexford panel, I know he's a very fit young lad but still even mentally a rest at the weekend v Offaly would freshen him up.

Simon Donoghue is similar, I think Rossiter in fariness recognises that.

In saying that, Naomh Eanna lads probably had a similar load with hurling and football and then a Leinster match.

Past hurler (None) - Posts: 1028 - 06/02/2024 21:20:10    2524841

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Replying To Past hurler:  "Conor Hearne definitely needs a weekend off.

Finished with Wexford in the summer straight into senior club hurling and then straight into senior club football until November and then back in with the Wexford panel, I know he's a very fit young lad but still even mentally a rest at the weekend v Offaly would freshen him up.

Simon Donoghue is similar, I think Rossiter in fariness recognises that.

In saying that, Naomh Eanna lads probably had a similar load with hurling and football and then a Leinster match."
Patsy hasn't had the number of games Charlie has had he only started his 1st game of the year last weekend and would likely need games as it's 1st year hurling Senior Intercounty. Jack Doran hasn't played too many minutes either. I'd start him midfield maybe, or half forward.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19009 - 06/02/2024 21:45:55    2524844

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Replying To Viking66:  "Patsy hasn't had the number of games Charlie has had he only started his 1st game of the year last weekend and would likely need games as it's 1st year hurling Senior Intercounty. Jack Doran hasn't played too many minutes either. I'd start him midfield maybe, or half forward."
If Hearne is been given a rest at midfield I wouldnt mind seeing Richie Lawlor at midfield. I think he is more suited to there. Tucker Kinsella can easily slot into the two man full forward line. Would like to see is he an option in there aswell as half forward

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 07/02/2024 08:55:34    2524860

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Shane Mcgrath said in his column today 9 of the starters from the AIF didn't feature Sunday in the League last but it's actually only 7. And all the subs who came on in the AIF for Kilkenny who are still on the panel featured on Sunday last also. So that's 10 players who played Sunday also played in last year's AIF. Why is there this narrative that we are only winning because we are playing second string teams? Eddie Scally on KCLR said only 4 of Galways Walsh Cup team started in the Leinster final last year but 6 of their starting Walsh Cup side played in the AISF last year for Galway, and 3 of the subs they brought on in the Walsh Cup final also played in the AISF. That's 9 players played for Galway in both the AISF last year and Walsh Cup final this year.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19009 - 07/02/2024 09:27:52    2524862

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