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Replying To UtahBlaine: "You do realize that Garth McKinless was taking a free when Sean o Shea knocked the ball outof his hands ? How could that be a red card" Are you implying Gareth McKindless doesn't have the hand, foot, eye coordination to know when the ball is gone and normally attempts to kick a ball in that fashion. His actions were deliberate and his injury self inflicted in my opinion. He's a reckless/dangerous player when he goes to ground he alway throws his studs and his feet into the air in the direction of an opponent. Just as he did yesterday even after he missed his goal chance, that is not a natural motion and there is no need for his second motion on the ground. No on falls like that...... But perhaps you're right and he has some sort of coordination problem! On those suggesting he should get a football all star. It's called football, McKindless is a runner. If he had feet and was able to kick a ball he'd have had about 3 points to his name yesterday in addition to the scuffed shot that trickled over the line for his goal. oso (Antrim) - Posts: 168 - 17/07/2023 09:19:48 2494983 Link
Replying To wishfulthinkin: "Poor old Derry soiled the pants in the second half, only 4 points in 35mins in an All Ireland semi final (and one of them the last kick of the game) is pathetic." Ridiculous comment. How did yer pants fare out in the 2020 semi-final? I'd say even the best box of Daz couldn't help you. MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1000 - 17/07/2023 10:00:08 2494992 Link
An embarrassing post from the Antrim person. Sean O Se was the one utterly reckless and cynical as Kerry men tend to be. O Se's actions were totally wrong Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 2139 - 17/07/2023 10:17:14 2495003 Link
Anyone who thinks Shane Ryan was undeserving of at least a yellow card is clueless about the rules. He was reckless and totally wrong. Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 2139 - 17/07/2023 10:19:32 2495006 Link
Replying To wishfulthinkin: "Poor old Derry soiled the pants in the second half, only 4 points in 35mins in an All Ireland semi final (and one of them the last kick of the game) is pathetic." Cheap shot. We as Cavan men are in a substantial glass house when it comes to talking about soiling it, drumalee11 (USA) - Posts: 351 - 17/07/2023 10:27:57 2495011 Link
Replying To Claretandblue: "An embarrassing post from the Antrim person. Sean O Se was the one utterly reckless and cynical as Kerry men tend to be. O Se's actions were totally wrong" Are you stating that based on what appears to be your dislike for "kerry men" in general or based on the actual incident that occurred in croke Park yesterday? No one is denying Sean O'shea was being cynical or trying to slow the game up, but you have literally just condoned the actions of a player who deliberately in that instant tried to hurt an opposition player. That's the only "embarassing" thing here. oso (Antrim) - Posts: 168 - 17/07/2023 10:36:20 2495015 Link
Seemingly a lot of ye have never kicked a fresh air shot in your lives. If you did you'd understand the real power that goes into a kick. Hitting the ball controls the power of the kick so when there is no ball the action becomes uncontrolled. Derry brought something different to the table for sure. No more than Dublin having to thank Monaghan for the game the previous day they may also thank Derry as they showed how Kerry could be got at (lol Dublin thanking ppl). Yes Kerry did dig it out and i think the closing down of the kickout was the turning point in the last 10 minutes. There is also a sense in me that Derry ran out of steam and we've seen it before. The Derry bench didn't offer much where as Kerry's injected a new life. Clifford is beyond serious but at the same time if he gets injured, carded, well marked (i know) you'd wonder. Some of the rest around him yesterday looked very pedestrian ponger (Cavan) - Posts: 550 - 17/07/2023 10:41:29 2495021 Link
Bad luck to our neighbours Derry. They ticked so many boxes yesterday but ultimately just came up a little bit short. The difference for me was in the very fine details. Derry manufactured a few very decent goal scoring opportunities but were just lacking the technical execution required to clinically finish them off. Compare that to Kerry's goal. They ruthlessly ensured there would be a green flag. Everything from the decision-making, weight of pass and timing of the support run was exactly spot on. Monaghan were similarly guilty in the first half against Dublin. McAnespie found himself in on goal but it was still a difficult chance. He had O'Hanlon screaming inside him for a simple pop pass and it would have been an almost certain goal. I felt that all year Derry were lacking another marquee forward to take the pressure off MGuigan. McGuigan had another fine game yesterday but Kerry got to grips with him second half and the scores dried up. They were still very unlucky however, and I'd say there are a few regrets in the Oaf Leaf county today. They can hold their heads high though. It was as brave a display against Kerry than I can remember. Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9754 - 17/07/2023 10:54:44 2495033 Link
Replying To Claretandblue: "Anyone who thinks Shane Ryan was undeserving of at least a yellow card is clueless about the rules. He was reckless and totally wrong." In that instance, there was more onus on McGuigan to protect himself. He could've avoided the collision. Ryan couldn't. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5246 - 17/07/2023 10:58:34 2495035 Link
Replying To Joxer: "Derry absolutely kicked that game away in the second half. It was there for them but poor shot execution and selection at times in the second half killed them off. Kerry did what Kerry do with 10 to go, took their chances and managed the game out." Yep, they had the chances, just didn't take them. They just didn't have the composure to work scores when needed. Do you remember when the Derry keeper played a lovely pass into one of the forwards only for his shot to be blocked I think. Was a mark available to him there? I was sure it was but maybe not. A great performance and they left everything out on the field. Kerry very lucky they have David Clifford as that game was out of sight without him. I would fancy the Dubs in the final to put the wrong of last years semi to right. No Con or Mannion I think were the grains of rice that tipped the scales that day. MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1000 - 17/07/2023 11:05:07 2495038 Link
Replying To cavanman47: "In that instance, there was more onus on McGuigan to protect himself. He could've avoided the collision. Ryan couldn't." Total nonsense. You only have to look at Ryan's eyes to see that he knew exactly what he was doing in taking the man out. It was a Harold Schumacher type tackle. Dangerous and deliberate. Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9817 - 17/07/2023 11:10:44 2495041 Link
One thing I noticed from yesterday and it was not even talked about. Shane McGuigan (I think) was dragged down as he was approaching the square. A free was given. However, we were told earlier in the year when Kerry got a penalty against Cork, that a deliberate cynical foul in that situation is a penalty and black card. That is the rule, fair enough. But I said it at the time, that would not be enforced again, and here we are, it's happened for the umpteenth time since and no penalty, or even discussion about it. I'm not saying whether the rule is right or wrong, whether it should have been a penalty or not. I'm saying that the consistency is not there and just not right. BaldyBadger (Cork) - Posts: 313 - 17/07/2023 11:18:29 2495045 Link
Commiserations to Derry. I had seen the QF v Cork live and it was a really poor game. but yesterday , that was a super performance. Hard defeat to take, I am sure it is very raw today. The only comfort I take after losing a big match is if the team and management left it all on the field on the day and I think Derry did that yesterday so they deserve a lot of credit for that. 2 questions on the game: Kerry obviously had the better of the 2nd half - Derry hit a number of wides etc. How much of that was down to Derry tiredness? Derrys small squad has been flagged since the start of the season. Stephen O'B came off the bench and had a huge impact and Derry probably don't have the same depth. Kerry defense in the first half - was it just me or did they not lay a hand on the Derry forwards? I don't want to take anything away from Derrys attack but from TV Kerry just looked too open to me. Is that a concern going into the final? Cbar (Mayo) - Posts: 351 - 17/07/2023 11:19:55 2495048 Link
Brilliant game of football, credit to both sides. We almost had 2 division 2 sides in the final. Derry will know that 4 points in the second half was never going to be enough. 2023 was still great year for them. Kerry are blessed to have David Clifford, best ever probably. suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1732 - 17/07/2023 11:27:29 2495051 Link
McKinlass did nothing wrong, McQuillan adjudicated that, correctly, O Se was wrong. If you can't see that then read the rules. Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 2139 - 17/07/2023 11:33:44 2495053 Link
Derry left this one behind them. Simple as. And am sure they know it too. Moyle (Tipperary) - Posts: 90 - 17/07/2023 11:34:47 2495054 Link
Replying To Ulsterman: "Total nonsense. You only have to look at Ryan's eyes to see that he knew exactly what he was doing in taking the man out. It was a Harold Schumacher type tackle. Dangerous and deliberate." It is nonsense to compare it to Schumacher. Battitson had just tried to score when Schumacher took him out. In this case Shane Ryan had the ball. To catch any ball your eyes have to be on it. Genuine foul play needs to be dealt with. This is not the case here. johnq (UK) - Posts: 7 - 17/07/2023 11:50:42 2495057 Link
Replying To suckvalleypaddy: "Brilliant game of football, credit to both sides. We almost had 2 division 2 sides in the final. Derry will know that 4 points in the second half was never going to be enough. 2023 was still great year for them. Kerry are blessed to have David Clifford, best ever probably." I know people talk about goals winning matches but handy points keep the scoreboard ticking over and that's where the 3 Ulster teams fell short. As for Clifford, he is and will be the difference for years. Unmarkable when he is on form, every county should have one.. Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2289 - 17/07/2023 12:01:36 2495059 Link
Great game best so far this year great to see Derry have transitioned on from the negative football they played last year and have now developed into a quality side were much the better team yesterday and lost the game for two reasons inexperience which lead to 3 bad wides in a row in the second half and not calling a mark and the ref , my fellow cavan man doing what he does best favouring the big teams the two frees he gave Kerry when it was a drawn yesterday were a disgrace one of them the kerry man had thrown the ball before contact was made i thought he had blown for a free out and then a crazy soft free on the other side to clifford for minimal contact plus the kerry goal keeper should at best got a yellow card and the score been disallowed and at worst it was a red card offence. In the end Derrys in experience in the last 10 minutes cost them and they panicked when kerry pushed up on their kick out. Note to gaa crazy not to open up the upper cusack stand earlier could not get more than 2 tickets together and i know supporters who did not go because of it for an organisation that is so greedy for money it was a very strange decision. breffnibluewhite (Cavan) - Posts: 485 - 17/07/2023 12:02:25 2495060 Link
Clifford scored 9 pts yesterday yet Derry left McKaigue on him. Why? Big big mistake. I know Clifford is a superb player but leaving a fella over 10 years older on him was a tactical error on the part of Derry management. Dublin won't make the same mistake. Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9817 - 17/07/2023 12:09:42 2495063 Link