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Tailteann Cup 2023

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Now that the TC is beginning to take shape with Cavan Fermanagh Limerick and Meath yhe top seeds looks like a Cavan Vs Meath final at this stage.
With Colm O Rourke at the helm Meath will be keen on silverware

Jack L (None) - Posts: 3247 - 23/04/2023 17:50:50    2472821

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Replying To Jack L:  "Now that the TC is beginning to take shape with Cavan Fermanagh Limerick and Meath yhe top seeds looks like a Cavan Vs Meath final at this stage.
With Colm O Rourke at the helm Meath will be keen on silverware"
Meath ?

Are you on the wind up.

sponger (Wicklow) - Posts: 3053 - 23/04/2023 18:17:17    2472846

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Congratulations to Meath on their successful qualification for the Tailteann Cup.

Hard to see past O'Rourke's Royal Juggernaut at this stage.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13850 - 23/04/2023 20:15:22    2472922

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Seed 1. Meath, Cavan, Fermanagh, Limerick
Seed 2. Down*, Offaly*, Antrim, Wicklow
Seed 3. Longford, Tipperary, Laois, Leitrim
Seed 4. Wexford, Carlow Waterford, London
* Down and Offaly might still qualify for the All-Ireland if they make their finals.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 10082 - 23/04/2023 20:58:23    2472952

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I believe Leitrim are 4th seeds. alas!

(Although a few mins from winning division, they ended up 5th!!). Although better scoring difference, they lost head to head with Wexford.

Solo_Run (Leitrim) - Posts: 228 - 23/04/2023 22:18:35    2472990

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If Offaly beat Louth in the semi Kildare will be down I. The Tailteann Cup.

skirge7 (UK) - Posts: 254 - 23/04/2023 22:20:53    2472992

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Replying To Jack L:  "Now that the TC is beginning to take shape with Cavan Fermanagh Limerick and Meath yhe top seeds looks like a Cavan Vs Meath final at this stage.
With Colm O Rourke at the helm Meath will be keen on silverware"
Enjoyed that, tell another one

Sweetspot (Kildare) - Posts: 353 - 23/04/2023 22:41:27    2473000

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Replying To Jack L:  "Now that the TC is beginning to take shape with Cavan Fermanagh Limerick and Meath yhe top seeds looks like a Cavan Vs Meath final at this stage.
With Colm O Rourke at the helm Meath will be keen on silverware"
I'd love to see Cavan play Meath in championship football, even if it's only in The Tailteann. Well, it can only be that now. For two counties that rarely meet in championship and which are in two different provinces there's a robust rivalry/bitterness between the two. Cavan, once kingpins in Gaelic football who had 4 AI won before Meath had their first (1949), would apparently be very loud and boisterous on their way home from Croke Park, particularly when passing through the royal county. I'm told that things would get really heated up in border areas like Nobber. Then after Cavan's 5th title in 1952, they stopped winning, and Meath took over with titles in 1954/1967/1987-88/1996/ and 1999. Meath beat Cavan by a point in the 1954 semi-final in what is said to have been quite a nasty affair. The shoe very much switched to the other foot. But the rivalry/bitterness remains to the present day.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2635 - 24/04/2023 03:53:32    2473022

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Replying To skirge7:  "If Offaly beat Louth in the semi Kildare will be down I. The Tailteann Cup."
If down beat Armagh the same happens and if both Offaly and Down win Cork will be in it.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 2242 - 24/04/2023 09:13:05    2473055

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Replying To skirge7:  "If Offaly beat Louth in the semi Kildare will be down I. The Tailteann Cup."
Wow Meath and Kildare in the TC !!

I think this would be good for the future status of the competition. It will give it higher profile and whoever wins it will have to earn it.

Onion Breath (Carlow) - Posts: 1907 - 24/04/2023 09:19:09    2473057

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Cavan and Meath should be favourites to make the final. The prize of All-Ireland qualification will keep them honest. If Cavan and Meath have aspirations of provincial success in the next few years, they will want to be winning the Tailteann and challenge for the Division 2 title next year.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 10082 - 24/04/2023 09:19:16    2473058

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Replying To legendzxix:  "Cavan and Meath should be favourites to make the final. The prize of All-Ireland qualification will keep them honest. If Cavan and Meath have aspirations of provincial success in the next few years, they will want to be winning the Tailteann and challenge for the Division 2 title next year."
Momentum is huge in football and Meath definitely don't have that at the minute. They've won 1 of their last 6 games, and the whole set up is a bit of a mess at the minute so I wouldn't be too confident.

Maybe the Tailteann Cup might be a good opportunity for them to reset against weaker opposition, and on paper Cavan and Meath should be the strongest. But I wouldn't get too excited., Meath are miles off at the minute.

There still could be a few more interesting additions to the Tailteann Cup. Kildare are far from safe, they're obviously not going to beat Dublin so they need to hope Louth and Armagh do the business. Down too are likely to be in the TC, and Cork would drop into it also should Kildare, Offaly and Down make their respective provincial finals - probably unlikely at this stage.

At the minute it looks like this courtesy of the Irish Examiner:

1st seeds: Cavan, Meath.
2nd seeds: Antrim, Wicklow.
3rd seeds: Laois, Leitrim, Longford, Tipperary.
4th seeds: Carlow, London, Waterford, Wexford.

Preliminary quarter-finalists: New York
Other confirmed Tailteann participants: Fermanagh, Limerick.
To be confirmed: Cork, Down, Kildare, Offaly.

So a lot still to play for and it looks fairly competitive, I'd have Cavan favs at the minute but that could change if a few others make the drop.

hyperache (Meath) - Posts: 273 - 24/04/2023 10:17:00    2473100

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Replying To hyperache:  "Momentum is huge in football and Meath definitely don't have that at the minute. They've won 1 of their last 6 games, and the whole set up is a bit of a mess at the minute so I wouldn't be too confident.

Maybe the Tailteann Cup might be a good opportunity for them to reset against weaker opposition, and on paper Cavan and Meath should be the strongest. But I wouldn't get too excited., Meath are miles off at the minute.

There still could be a few more interesting additions to the Tailteann Cup. Kildare are far from safe, they're obviously not going to beat Dublin so they need to hope Louth and Armagh do the business. Down too are likely to be in the TC, and Cork would drop into it also should Kildare, Offaly and Down make their respective provincial finals - probably unlikely at this stage.

At the minute it looks like this courtesy of the Irish Examiner:

1st seeds: Cavan, Meath.
2nd seeds: Antrim, Wicklow.
3rd seeds: Laois, Leitrim, Longford, Tipperary.
4th seeds: Carlow, London, Waterford, Wexford.

Preliminary quarter-finalists: New York
Other confirmed Tailteann participants: Fermanagh, Limerick.
To be confirmed: Cork, Down, Kildare, Offaly.

So a lot still to play for and it looks fairly competitive, I'd have Cavan favs at the minute but that could change if a few others make the drop."
I think it won't be long before we have a 3rd tier, the 4th seeds and probably the 3rd seeds have as much chance of winning the TC as they do the all Ireland. The quarter finals will be interesting though, potential for a very good knockout stage

Barrowsider (Carlow) - Posts: 1751 - 24/04/2023 11:39:09    2473163

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Replying To Barrowsider:  "I think it won't be long before we have a 3rd tier, the 4th seeds and probably the 3rd seeds have as much chance of winning the TC as they do the all Ireland. The quarter finals will be interesting though, potential for a very good knockout stage"
I agree. If fact I think they should go 12, 12 and 12 in the bottom. You have Warickshire, NY, and Kilkenny from the Junior.

Add another British team or there was talk of Chicago fielding a team too to make the 36

skirge7 (UK) - Posts: 254 - 24/04/2023 13:37:24    2473245

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Replying To hyperache:  "Momentum is huge in football and Meath definitely don't have that at the minute. They've won 1 of their last 6 games, and the whole set up is a bit of a mess at the minute so I wouldn't be too confident.

Maybe the Tailteann Cup might be a good opportunity for them to reset against weaker opposition, and on paper Cavan and Meath should be the strongest. But I wouldn't get too excited., Meath are miles off at the minute.

There still could be a few more interesting additions to the Tailteann Cup. Kildare are far from safe, they're obviously not going to beat Dublin so they need to hope Louth and Armagh do the business. Down too are likely to be in the TC, and Cork would drop into it also should Kildare, Offaly and Down make their respective provincial finals - probably unlikely at this stage.

At the minute it looks like this courtesy of the Irish Examiner:

1st seeds: Cavan, Meath.
2nd seeds: Antrim, Wicklow.
3rd seeds: Laois, Leitrim, Longford, Tipperary.
4th seeds: Carlow, London, Waterford, Wexford.

Preliminary quarter-finalists: New York
Other confirmed Tailteann participants: Fermanagh, Limerick.
To be confirmed: Cork, Down, Kildare, Offaly.

So a lot still to play for and it looks fairly competitive, I'd have Cavan favs at the minute but that could change if a few others make the drop."
Louth can also play in the Tailteann if Offaly, Down and Kildare all win their semis.

skirge7 (UK) - Posts: 254 - 24/04/2023 13:38:01    2473246

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Replying To skirge7:  "I agree. If fact I think they should go 12, 12 and 12 in the bottom. You have Warickshire, NY, and Kilkenny from the Junior.

Add another British team or there was talk of Chicago fielding a team too to make the 36"
Yeah I think 12 12 12 sounds a lot better if doable, now that we are gone down this road we should embrace it fully and try give every team an achievable goal, a third tier would give the likes of Carlow waterford wexford wicklow etc a championship they could win at some stage. It would also as you suggest open the possibility of expanding it.

Barrowsider (Carlow) - Posts: 1751 - 24/04/2023 14:57:51    2473303

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Id say Kildare & Down wont win their semi finals and Offaly have a decent chance but ifd they dont Kildare & Cork play All Ireland .
The Tailteann cup a bit like the Europa League, Cavan are favourites with PP but Meath & Fermanagh be my choices with Limerick a dark horse .

OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 778 - 24/04/2023 14:58:37    2473304

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Replying To Barrowsider:  "I think it won't be long before we have a 3rd tier, the 4th seeds and probably the 3rd seeds have as much chance of winning the TC as they do the all Ireland. The quarter finals will be interesting though, potential for a very good knockout stage"
I see what you mean, and I think it'll eventually become Senior/Intermediate/Junior like in the LGFA and could even see them spreading it out even more like having B teams for the counties that have big populations or big player pools so it would increase participation and competition- Dublin B, Cork B etc. I'm sure there are some brilliant players in Dublin and Kerry who don't get a chance because they're not just up to country standard.

But every team in the TC is there on merit, and I don't think the seed 3 or 4 teams should be fearing the top seeds because there's not a massive gap. Be interesting to see how it plays out, hopefully we get some good games and some packed our provincial grounds - rather than a half empty Croke Park

hyperache (Meath) - Posts: 273 - 24/04/2023 15:16:09    2473311

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Replying To Barrowsider:  "I think it won't be long before we have a 3rd tier, the 4th seeds and probably the 3rd seeds have as much chance of winning the TC as they do the all Ireland. The quarter finals will be interesting though, potential for a very good knockout stage"
I think the third seeds will give it a good go. Leitrim only lost out on penalties in last year's quarter-finals. If Leitrim finish second, they could get a revenge match against New York in the playoff!

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 10082 - 24/04/2023 15:21:00    2473313

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Replying To skirge7:  "I agree. If fact I think they should go 12, 12 and 12 in the bottom. You have Warickshire, NY, and Kilkenny from the Junior.

Add another British team or there was talk of Chicago fielding a team too to make the 36"
12, 12 and 12 is definitely the way to go. Maybe even the finalists of each grade get promoted replacing the worst 2 in the higher grade

All-Ireland Senior Football Championship
Group A
Cork
Derry
Dublin
Galway

Group B
Donegal
Kerry
Monaghan
Roscommon

Group C
Armagh
Louth
Mayo
Tyrone



Tailteann Cup
Group A
Antrim
Cavan
Sligo
Westmeath

Group B
Down
Kildare
Limerick
Offaly

Group C
Clare
Fermanagh
Laois
Meath



Tier 3
Group A
Carlow
Longford
New York

Group B
Kilkenny
London
Tipperary
Wexford

Group C
Lancashire
Leitrim
Waterford
Wicklow

Top 2 in each group qualify for knockout stage (best 2 group winners get bye to semi-finals) and the three teams that finished bottom of their groups are in the relegation playoffs

All championships are competitive

GaA247 (Cork) - Posts: 74 - 24/04/2023 16:38:17    2473366

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