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Replying To Doylerwex:  "Surely mac will be on the frees"
that would be my guess, Conor Foley took them for Horeswood in there Leinster campaign but would be big responsibility for 19 year old making his 1st start.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 03/02/2023 14:01:46    2456165

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I hope its a case of rotating players for specific games during the league, otherwise I cannot phantom how Fanning is back in already.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1502 - 03/02/2023 14:04:56    2456167

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "Surely mac will be on the frees"
He was on them against Waterford

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16638 - 03/02/2023 14:12:00    2456169

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Replying To HurlingBuzz:  "Would've liked to see Ian Carty again at wing back. Great opportunity for Conor foley to impress. Are u20's still ineligible to play this year if they play senior championship? No recognised free taker with chin injured and Ross banville only a sub(understandable decision with his fitzgibbon cup duties). That would be a concern"
Hopefully Ian Carty will get the 2nd half. Would like to see how he goes against Galway. And bring Ross Banville on for the 2nd half instead of Conor Hearne. Or Mogie if he only has a half in him.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16638 - 03/02/2023 14:13:42    2456170

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "Surely mac will be on the frees"
Would've thought it would be Mac or Dee O. My point though was we went through a phase a few years ago when in different games or indeed the same game we tried Mac, Harry kehoe, paul Morris, Rory and jacko. They're not reliable inter county standard free takers.
As was correctly pointed out by another poster our forward line might struggle to keep the scoreboard ticking over. Throw in not having a top drawer free taker on top of that and tomorrow could be a struggle. Think we'll need to score at least 3 goals to make a game of it

HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 554 - 03/02/2023 14:42:52    2456173

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Replying To beano:  "I hope its a case of rotating players for specific games during the league, otherwise I cannot phantom how Fanning is back in already."
Heard James Lawlor picked up a knock playing Fitzgibbon Cup during the week. Mustn't be too bad if he's still named on the bench, but must be bad enough to prevent him from starting. Then again, maybe Fanning remains Darragh Egan's first choice anyway, despite Lawlor getting two of the three starts so far.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2978 - 03/02/2023 15:06:42    2456177

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Replying To beano:  "I hope its a case of rotating players for specific games during the league, otherwise I cannot phantom how Fanning is back in already."
I'd imagine it is, Lawlor has done well in 2 games so far.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 03/02/2023 15:41:00    2456185

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Replying To Yellow:  "I feel we are very light on players for this fixture

No Paudie Foley or Rory O Connor or Richie Lalor

No sign of Hanlon, Oisin Foley, Liam Og, Connal Flood or Jack O Connor so far this year.

Chin seems injured. We've barely seen Kevin Foley or Fanning and both looked very rusty.

No free taker

People I was excited to step up to senior this year such as Cian Byrne, Cian Molloy and AJ Redmond havent made any appearance so far

I dont see why the panel seems in such a state before the start of the league with regard to available players. Literally no idea what team will be named tonight.

I am completely in favour of only building for the championship this year and uncovering as much talent as possible but the list of unavailable players is alarming since the club championship has been over for 6 months"
I wouldn't be surprised if 1 or 2 of the injuries are the type you wouldn't risk for a league game but you would for a big championship game.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 03/02/2023 15:43:31    2456187

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Should the Fitzgibbon cup be looked at? Is there any space in the calendar to play this competition and not have it clash with the county season. Two players who would more than likely starting this weekend are out because of midweek games. Should it not be a knockout championship or perhaps some sort of back door system to give them at least two games. Also, I could be wrong but I don't think we have as many on Fitz paneks as in previous years. Definitely not as much as our Leinster competitors such as Galway and Kilkenny.

Finchfurlong996 (Wexford) - Posts: 255 - 03/02/2023 16:30:10    2456199

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Replying To HurlingBuzz:  "Would've thought it would be Mac or Dee O. My point though was we went through a phase a few years ago when in different games or indeed the same game we tried Mac, Harry kehoe, paul Morris, Rory and jacko. They're not reliable inter county standard free takers.
As was correctly pointed out by another poster our forward line might struggle to keep the scoreboard ticking over. Throw in not having a top drawer free taker on top of that and tomorrow could be a struggle. Think we'll need to score at least 3 goals to make a game of it"
Dee wouldn't have been great on them for Anne's he'd always have missed a couple every time I saw them play.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16638 - 03/02/2023 17:25:48    2456211

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Can't see us running up a big score against Galway. Forwards look a bit lightweight. Kevin Foley in midfield? Kevin has not performed well over the last few seasons and may be a weak link. Hope I'm wrong. Even without Whelan they will be quite formidable. Our trump card will be if we can get it into Mac. He seems fitter and scored 5 points against the cats. Pity Richie Lawlor won't see any action for a while. He really is a good find and I'm sure will play a big part come championship time.
Cathal Dunbar has speed and accuracy but doesn't always turn up. Interesting to see how Conor Foley performs. Big game for a 19 year old but good experience for him.
The backs look solid enough, and maybe they can keep the Galway attack at bay and we just might be in the game in the final 10 minutes.
Important we get a few wins in the league but it's vital we gain momentum before the real business starts.

Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 538 - 03/02/2023 19:29:01    2456230

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Heard James Lawlor picked up a knock playing Fitzgibbon Cup during the week. Mustn't be too bad if he's still named on the bench, but must be bad enough to prevent him from starting. Then again, maybe Fanning remains Darragh Egan's first choice anyway, despite Lawlor getting two of the three starts so far."
If Fanning remains Egan's first choice then it points to another bleak year.

Purpleandgold72 (Wexford) - Posts: 275 - 03/02/2023 21:27:19    2456247

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Replying To Finchfurlong996:  "Should the Fitzgibbon cup be looked at? Is there any space in the calendar to play this competition and not have it clash with the county season. Two players who would more than likely starting this weekend are out because of midweek games. Should it not be a knockout championship or perhaps some sort of back door system to give them at least two games. Also, I could be wrong but I don't think we have as many on Fitz paneks as in previous years. Definitely not as much as our Leinster competitors such as Galway and Kilkenny."
Fitzgibbon only has 3 teams in each group so only guarantees 2 games anyway.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16638 - 04/02/2023 08:17:15    2456259

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Replying To Magpie2:  "Can't see us running up a big score against Galway. Forwards look a bit lightweight. Kevin Foley in midfield? Kevin has not performed well over the last few seasons and may be a weak link. Hope I'm wrong. Even without Whelan they will be quite formidable. Our trump card will be if we can get it into Mac. He seems fitter and scored 5 points against the cats. Pity Richie Lawlor won't see any action for a while. He really is a good find and I'm sure will play a big part come championship time.
Cathal Dunbar has speed and accuracy but doesn't always turn up. Interesting to see how Conor Foley performs. Big game for a 19 year old but good experience for him.
The backs look solid enough, and maybe they can keep the Galway attack at bay and we just might be in the game in the final 10 minutes.
Important we get a few wins in the league but it's vital we gain momentum before the real business starts."
Kevin had a down season last year for club and county but was excellent for both the year before.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16638 - 04/02/2023 08:18:44    2456260

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Replying To Finchfurlong996:  "Should the Fitzgibbon cup be looked at? Is there any space in the calendar to play this competition and not have it clash with the county season. Two players who would more than likely starting this weekend are out because of midweek games. Should it not be a knockout championship or perhaps some sort of back door system to give them at least two games. Also, I could be wrong but I don't think we have as many on Fitz paneks as in previous years. Definitely not as much as our Leinster competitors such as Galway and Kilkenny."
Fitzgibbon is a brilliant competition, if your concerned about the volume of games a better option would be get rid of the intercounty pre season competitions and dedicate January to 3rd level competitions, your right on the last point but not surprising. Last year Shane Reck, Dunbar, Seamus Casey, Rory o'connor, Rory Higgins were all involved but there 24-26 age bracket and finished college now. We wouldn't have a huge cohort in 22-23 age bracket which is probably the most common age at fitzgibbon. We've a good bit of talent around u21 but some of the 19 or 20 year olds would be playing freshers, oisin pepper is playing freshers with it carlow for example, some of the u21 players coming through actually aren't in 3rd level too and gone into full time employment from school.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 04/02/2023 10:58:51    2456295

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Fitzgibbon is a brilliant competition, if your concerned about the volume of games a better option would be get rid of the intercounty pre season competitions and dedicate January to 3rd level competitions, your right on the last point but not surprising. Last year Shane Reck, Dunbar, Seamus Casey, Rory o'connor, Rory Higgins were all involved but there 24-26 age bracket and finished college now. We wouldn't have a huge cohort in 22-23 age bracket which is probably the most common age at fitzgibbon. We've a good bit of talent around u21 but some of the 19 or 20 year olds would be playing freshers, oisin pepper is playing freshers with it carlow for example, some of the u21 players coming through actually aren't in 3rd level too and gone into full time employment from school."
Totally agree. Fitzgibbon cup is great for the development of young players. The standard is very high. Indeed some of the teams would give many an inter county team a right battle. Also saw during the week a number of Wexford lads involved with TU Dublin in the ryan cup ( level below fitzgibbon)

HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 554 - 04/02/2023 12:43:14    2456334

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Replying To Finchfurlong996:  "Should the Fitzgibbon cup be looked at? Is there any space in the calendar to play this competition and not have it clash with the county season. Two players who would more than likely starting this weekend are out because of midweek games. Should it not be a knockout championship or perhaps some sort of back door system to give them at least two games. Also, I could be wrong but I don't think we have as many on Fitz paneks as in previous years. Definitely not as much as our Leinster competitors such as Galway and Kilkenny."
We had around 26 which was about the same as last year. And much more than 10 years ago say. About the same as Clare and also more than Limerick this year. Though less than Waterford, Galway, Tipp and Cork. Don't think Kilkenny had that many more than us either but I didn't do a full count of theirs.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16638 - 04/02/2023 12:55:37    2456343

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We're getting robbed blind here

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3839 - 04/02/2023 18:34:32    2456418

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Most disjointed second half display in a long while, to a worrying degree. I know it's 'only the league' but we can't be so blasé at home in front of a large crowd, with the added bonus of silverware at stake (not exactly growing on trees in the county in recent times). Referee wasn't great, but wasn't the difference.

It was ear-marked here upon the announcement of the team that we were lacking a consistent dead-ball taker, and so it proved on the night. We can't keep shooting ourselves in the foot game on game with double-figure wide counts- we are definitely way off the top teams in our shooting accuracy.

But for a redemptive penalty save from Fanning, and Galway fluffing a clear goal chance in the second half, it could have been a trouncing. I wouldn't be too concerned about Whelan doing damage as he is has done it to some of the best around consistently for a few years now, but I would be worried about how open we looked back there.

Second-best in every category, which is disappointing because we looked well up for it early on when going 3-4 points up. Buffeted too easily off the ball, Galway jad better options off the bench too (I know we are down two of our best and most important forwards amongst others).

Reck our best again, thought Devitt struggled defensively for the first time this season, and Foley had a tough introduction to this level but should be all the better for it. McGuckin our best attacker, and I still think Dwyer is better on the '40. Mac poor given what we needed from him. Pointless giving Carty so little time.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1502 - 04/02/2023 18:52:02    2456420

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "We're getting robbed blind here"
Getting hurled off the pitch is how i would phrase it. Played to our ability in my opinion

Waltermitty2 (Wexford) - Posts: 275 - 04/02/2023 18:57:20    2456421

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