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Replying To Midleton:  "There's the Kerryman coming out at last! It's Cork's fault! I'm not saying it's Kerry's fault in this instance, either, although they could have been more supportive. Specifically, it's the fault of the Munster Council. If you've read all the thread, you certainly haven't understood it all. There is a difference between Kerry saying that they don't care where a match is being played and Kerry urging that the home and away agreement be honored. All Kerry are concerned with is covering their own ass. Again, it's simply a home and away venue, not tied to any specific location. Having the bigger capacity venue available is of course preferable, but when it's not available, then you default to the next one.

As for snide remarks, I've heard plenty from Kerry PLAYERS over the years, not to mind supporters. I remember coming home from Killarney along narrow roads, with bonfires of car tyres burning on each side of the road, while Kerry supporters thumped the car bonnets and roared at the Cork supporters inside."
No it is the fault of your County Board for using Pairc Ui Caoimh to host a Pop Star and forcing your two teams to play their home games somewhere to facilitate this. The same with the equally grasping Munster Rugby crowd, who are forced to concede home advantage, in Thomond Park, in a major game, because of an Ed Sheerean Show too.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4317 - 24/04/2022 20:27:58    2412872

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Replying To Midleton:  "For Kerry. simply winning is never enough. They have to be looked up as the shining knights of football."
Oh what a chip on the shoulder. Cork caused the mess and Kerry helped them out but you still not happy saying Kerry could be more supportive. Talk about bitterness. As for you talk on Kerry supporters well I've met far worse from Cork who often jeered us at train stations after all ireland losses. I often supported Cork in all Irelands hurling and football and other Munster counties. Have you? Kerry were supportive to Cork but you still find fault. I have read some of your comments over the years and very one sided. Thankfully most Cork supporters are fair and decent and can't be tarred with the same brush as yourself.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3674 - 25/04/2022 07:38:40    2412912

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "No it is the fault of your County Board for using Pairc Ui Caoimh to host a Pop Star and forcing your two teams to play their home games somewhere to facilitate this. The same with the equally grasping Munster Rugby crowd, who are forced to concede home advantage, in Thomond Park, in a major game, because of an Ed Sheerean Show too."
How is it the fault of the Cork County Board when the Munster Council had Pairc Ui Rinn on their website as the venue for the match and then changed it? Yeah, I know Kerry are much too good for us and can beat anywhere, but what's in it for the Munster Council? And don't say extra revenue, because they are playing hurling championship games in Sixmilebridge and Waslh Park.

Midleton (Cork) - Posts: 643 - 25/04/2022 13:29:28    2413084

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "Oh what a chip on the shoulder. Cork caused the mess and Kerry helped them out but you still not happy saying Kerry could be more supportive. Talk about bitterness. As for you talk on Kerry supporters well I've met far worse from Cork who often jeered us at train stations after all ireland losses. I often supported Cork in all Irelands hurling and football and other Munster counties. Have you? Kerry were supportive to Cork but you still find fault. I have read some of your comments over the years and very one sided. Thankfully most Cork supporters are fair and decent and can't be tarred with the same brush as yourself."
Fair and decent, perhaps, but honest?

Jeering at other supporters and teams is something I have never done or would do, although I know it goes on from some Cork supporters. For myself, I can only say what I think is true.

The former County Board made a complete mess of the redevelopment of the Pairc and had a large hand in getting us into the mess we now find ourselves in. But most of that have been cleared out at last, thank God, and an effort is being made to concentrate on the development of the games, in spite of the burden they have been left to carry. Concerts in the Pairc is is one way of paying off the debt.

The present problem is the fault of the Munster Council who are behaving like tyrants. As I have already pointed out, they had the venue for the match down as Pair Ui Riinn, but then changed it. If they do not change back, Kerry will have a walkover, which won't worry them overmuch as they would probably get a more competitive game among themselves.

I has always been my policy to support whichever team comes out of Munster for the All-Ireland final, but that doesn't mean we have to like each other within the province.

Midleton (Cork) - Posts: 643 - 25/04/2022 13:48:32    2413094

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "No it is the fault of your County Board for using Pairc Ui Caoimh to host a Pop Star and forcing your two teams to play their home games somewhere to facilitate this. The same with the equally grasping Munster Rugby crowd, who are forced to concede home advantage, in Thomond Park, in a major game, because of an Ed Sheerean Show too."
100% Croke Park full on Saturday night and you couldn't see your lads or the match in Leinster on TV because they were pay per view.

GAA across the board is making very short sighted financial decisions and Cork along with my own CB and Croke Park, and indeed ourselves as members if we continue to vote at the beck of accountants, will continue to pay a price.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2524 - 25/04/2022 13:59:14    2413097

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "No it is the fault of your County Board for using Pairc Ui Caoimh to host a Pop Star and forcing your two teams to play their home games somewhere to facilitate this. The same with the equally grasping Munster Rugby crowd, who are forced to concede home advantage, in Thomond Park, in a major game, because of an Ed Sheerean Show too."
100% Croke Park full on Saturday night and you couldn't see your lads or the match in Leinster on TV because they were pay per view.

GAA across the board is making very short sighted financial decisions and Cork along with my own CB and Croke Park, and indeed ourselves as members if we continue to vote at the beck of accountants, will continue to pay a price.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2524 - 25/04/2022 14:10:22    2413102

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Replying To Midleton:  "Fair and decent, perhaps, but honest?

Jeering at other supporters and teams is something I have never done or would do, although I know it goes on from some Cork supporters. For myself, I can only say what I think is true.

The former County Board made a complete mess of the redevelopment of the Pairc and had a large hand in getting us into the mess we now find ourselves in. But most of that have been cleared out at last, thank God, and an effort is being made to concentrate on the development of the games, in spite of the burden they have been left to carry. Concerts in the Pairc is is one way of paying off the debt.

The present problem is the fault of the Munster Council who are behaving like tyrants. As I have already pointed out, they had the venue for the match down as Pair Ui Riinn, but then changed it. If they do not change back, Kerry will have a walkover, which won't worry them overmuch as they would probably get a more competitive game among themselves.

I has always been my policy to support whichever team comes out of Munster for the All-Ireland final, but that doesn't mean we have to like each other within the province."
my main point is Kerry had nothing to do with the choice of venue and never looked to have it changed toKilarney.that decision was made by the Munster council.To my knowledge the original home away agreement was just between PUC and Fitzgerald stadium due to their large capacities.However the Munster council were informed that PUR could hold 15,000 for a championship match so they agreed to the choice of venue.However they were informed at a later date that this was now not the case and the stadium could only hold 9,000 and maybe 11,000 if work completed so they decided to move game to Fitzgerald Stadium.Cork refused and asked Kerry county board to help them out and Kerry agreed no problem.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3674 - 25/04/2022 14:51:45    2413118

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Finally.

Midleton (Cork) - Posts: 643 - 26/04/2022 16:06:45    2413385

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