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Is it not Cork County Board who incurred the large debt. It appears they new facility had two new pitches /surface within 2 years. The problem is one of Corks own making and they should therefore forfeit home advantage this time around- the Frank Murphy legacy is alive and well!

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2295 - 02/04/2022 10:44:33    2409018

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I have absolutely no sympathy for Cork... this stadium is a drain on GAA resources and if it needs 100 concerts to pay for it so be it. And the quicker the better.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 437 - 02/04/2022 11:46:23    2409032

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Replying To sam1884:  "Cork should be allowed to nominate a ground in Cork, and as the away team Kerry should travel to it. I get the concert isn't ideal, but there is another ground in Cork, that hosts inter county games that has been nominated.

We all know it'll be more intimidating for Kerry, than a half empty stadium and the Munster council will lose money, but I support the Cork players with their stance, a smaller ground with a terrific atmosphere might give Cork a chance. I can see why Kerry would want the game in Killarney or even Limerick."
As far as I know the Kerry county board hasn't said they want the game in killarney or limerick and are quite happy to play the Game in PUR,

I'd say legend is just making a suggestion to come up with a solution that might work for the Cork County board and the Munster Council .

This has nothing to do with Kerry, just tell us where to be on the 7th of May.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 02/04/2022 12:02:32    2409037

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "As far as I know the Kerry county board hasn't said they want the game in killarney or limerick and are quite happy to play the Game in PUR,

I'd say legend is just making a suggestion to come up with a solution that might work for the Cork County board and the Munster Council .

This has nothing to do with Kerry, just tell us where to be on the 7th of May."
Correct KingdomBoy. Kerry would meet (and beat) Cork on the top of the Galtee Mountains of they had to. This is not a Kerry issue.

Let's not forget that Kerry was quite magnanimous last year when it came to the Covid situation in Tyrone.

Not that I'd like to see Kerry win too often (a title a decade is enough for any county, IMO), but I would like to see them get the rub of the green for how they behaved last year; very sportingly!

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1326 - 02/04/2022 12:58:20    2409045

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "As far as I know the Kerry county board hasn't said they want the game in killarney or limerick and are quite happy to play the Game in PUR,

I'd say legend is just making a suggestion to come up with a solution that might work for the Cork County board and the Munster Council .

This has nothing to do with Kerry, just tell us where to be on the 7th of May."
True they haven't said anything public on the matter, and I thought JOC dealt with the question well yesterday. Kerry should win the game despite the venue, but my guess is they'd rather not have it in PUR, as it's a compact ground and one that Cork could make more intimidating and supportive. A half full stadium with a big open pitch would suit Kerry better. I think a game in PUR would be closer than many expect, and maybe that's the reason for the Cork players stance.

sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 957 - 04/04/2022 10:02:09    2409434

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Replying To sam1884:  "True they haven't said anything public on the matter, and I thought JOC dealt with the question well yesterday. Kerry should win the game despite the venue, but my guess is they'd rather not have it in PUR, as it's a compact ground and one that Cork could make more intimidating and supportive. A half full stadium with a big open pitch would suit Kerry better. I think a game in PUR would be closer than many expect, and maybe that's the reason for the Cork players stance."
I agree100% and Cork are right to fight for their advantage. It was the county board that messed uo
Not the players or management.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3049 - 04/04/2022 16:51:08    2409603

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I'm going to be in Killarney on my hols that Saturday.

Is it fair to say this game definitely won't go ahead in Killarney - It's Cork or nothing?

Albannach (Galway) - Posts: 8 - 06/04/2022 14:32:18    2409980

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Replying To browncows:  "Is it not Cork County Board who incurred the large debt. It appears they new facility had two new pitches /surface within 2 years. The problem is one of Corks own making and they should therefore forfeit home advantage this time around- the Frank Murphy legacy is alive and well!"
Multi Million Euro overspend on PUC, pitch having to be relaid after a couple of months, weren't aware of two bank accounts with large sums of cash in them, signing a sponsorship deal with a company whose ethics around workers are shocking, Cork County Board want it every way. A multi million stadium that their players can't play In, what an absolute sham. They want the money from Ed Sheeran & dump a number of C'ship games out of PUC but won't let the Munster Council warm their few quid by having it in a place that can hold a crowd greater than PUR's 9000 capacity. Munster Council need to show who is in charge here, is it them or Cork County Board. Cork Players need only blame their own County Board for the mess. Kerry accommodated Tyrone last year, can't see them being so stupid as to bend the knee again this year.

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 06/04/2022 15:00:17    2409985

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I don't think it matters where this game is played, Killarney been the exception, they will be lucky to have 10,000 at any other venue.

dubarra (Wicklow) - Posts: 513 - 10/04/2022 11:44:03    2410427

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Replying To moc.dna:  "Multi Million Euro overspend on PUC, pitch having to be relaid after a couple of months, weren't aware of two bank accounts with large sums of cash in them, signing a sponsorship deal with a company whose ethics around workers are shocking, Cork County Board want it every way. A multi million stadium that their players can't play In, what an absolute sham. They want the money from Ed Sheeran & dump a number of C'ship games out of PUC but won't let the Munster Council warm their few quid by having it in a place that can hold a crowd greater than PUR's 9000 capacity. Munster Council need to show who is in charge here, is it them or Cork County Board. Cork Players need only blame their own County Board for the mess. Kerry accommodated Tyrone last year, can't see them being so stupid as to bend the knee again this year."
You got it in one. Cork seem happy to blame everybody else but when the difficult questions were asked about PUC there was very much nothing to see here.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1620 - 10/04/2022 13:23:10    2410437

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I think the GAA need to have a set of minimum standards for facilities for games at various levels. Once that is achieved you should be entitled to your home game irrespective of the anticipated crowd level.

There seems to be a thing in the GAA that the bigger the stadium the better. Nothing worse than having 30,000 in Croke Park, I much prefer to have 20,000 jammed into Pearse Stadium or McHale park. Atmosphere is much better and it is a much bigger occasion.

If Pairc Ui Rinn meets minimum standards for a Munster Semi Final it should get the game.

The Ed Sheeran thing is a side issue and there are rights and wrongs involved in that, the spending on the stadium etc that is a whole different issue and a much wider discussion which I won't even start to comment on because it is a can of worms!

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1656 - 12/04/2022 10:16:19    2410625

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Replying To moc.dna:  "Multi Million Euro overspend on PUC, pitch having to be relaid after a couple of months, weren't aware of two bank accounts with large sums of cash in them, signing a sponsorship deal with a company whose ethics around workers are shocking, Cork County Board want it every way. A multi million stadium that their players can't play In, what an absolute sham. They want the money from Ed Sheeran & dump a number of C'ship games out of PUC but won't let the Munster Council warm their few quid by having it in a place that can hold a crowd greater than PUR's 9000 capacity. Munster Council need to show who is in charge here, is it them or Cork County Board. Cork Players need only blame their own County Board for the mess. Kerry accommodated Tyrone last year, can't see them being so stupid as to bend the knee again this year."
If the GAA was squeaky clean flawless and above criticism it would soon lose its popularity, as the saying goes there's no such thing as bad publicity, it can only get better.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2625 - 16/04/2022 10:23:54    2411076

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A smart Roscommon lad (can't beat the Rossies for craic) smirked in the pub last night, that Sheerin's song "Castle on the Hill" should be re-titled "Mansion, by the Lee"!

I enjoyed that Irish witticism.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1326 - 16/04/2022 11:47:16    2411084

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Walsh Park, where Cork will play Waterford in the hurling championship has a similar official capacity to Pairc Ui Rinn, (and also at the moment, has the same reduced capacity). The match between Waterford and Cork, in either Thurles of Limerick, would draw in at least 30,000. Why is the Munster Council not worried about loss of income there? Is it because they are being hypocritical? Or is it because Sky, who are contracted to cover the Munster Football Semi-Final, are leaning on them to have a bigger crowd. If it is the latter, there are at least grounds for a discussion. If not, what the feck is their problem?

Midleton (Cork) - Posts: 621 - 17/04/2022 21:29:22    2411435

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Good luck to Cork, you are right to put your case for hosting the match in what will be the very close to what the support will be. Cork football is at a low ebb and most will expect a Kerry win!

fifty (Mayo) - Posts: 105 - 19/04/2022 10:11:40    2411487

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Replying To fifty:  "Good luck to Cork, you are right to put your case for hosting the match in what will be the very close to what the support will be. Cork football is at a low ebb and most will expect a Kerry win!"
All KNOW that Kerry will win this match. Cork footballers are at the moment at as low an ebb as I've ever known them to be. Kerry have at last grudgingly conceded Pair Ui Rinn; it is now up the Munster Council to retain their last shred of creditability.

By the way, I've been attending Cork/Kerry football games since the 1960s and I've always regarded the Cork/Kerry arrangement as simply a home and away agreement with no particular venue in mind. What happened during the rebuilding of the Pairc may have pushed the belief that the venue was specific, whereas what happened was that Cork and Kerry agreed that Cork's home games would be played in Kerry while building went on and that would be later reciprocated by Kerry when the Pairc was ready. It was an agreement for its time, only, and benefited both counties.

Midleton (Cork) - Posts: 621 - 22/04/2022 13:07:16    2412256

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Replying To Midleton:  "All KNOW that Kerry will win this match. Cork footballers are at the moment at as low an ebb as I've ever known them to be. Kerry have at last grudgingly conceded Pair Ui Rinn; it is now up the Munster Council to retain their last shred of creditability.

By the way, I've been attending Cork/Kerry football games since the 1960s and I've always regarded the Cork/Kerry arrangement as simply a home and away agreement with no particular venue in mind. What happened during the rebuilding of the Pairc may have pushed the belief that the venue was specific, whereas what happened was that Cork and Kerry agreed that Cork's home games would be played in Kerry while building went on and that would be later reciprocated by Kerry when the Pairc was ready. It was an agreement for its time, only, and benefited both counties."
I have to take you to task here. You are being ungracious. Kerry had no problem with Páirc Uí Rinn and stated this. Some fans are upset as they won't get to see game now. The home and away agreement was between Pairc ui Caoimh and Fitzgerald stadium. Kerry had nothing to do with the picking of the venue and for you to say Kerry begrudgingly agreed is wrong and misleading. Cork were at fault not Kerry and Kerry have been very sporting once again but you have to throw in a snide remark.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3049 - 23/04/2022 13:30:37    2412475

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "I have to take you to task here. You are being ungracious. Kerry had no problem with Páirc Uí Rinn and stated this. Some fans are upset as they won't get to see game now. The home and away agreement was between Pairc ui Caoimh and Fitzgerald stadium. Kerry had nothing to do with the picking of the venue and for you to say Kerry begrudgingly agreed is wrong and misleading. Cork were at fault not Kerry and Kerry have been very sporting once again but you have to throw in a snide remark."
Who cares where its played Kerry will win anyway

Tiger1 (Wexford) - Posts: 142 - 23/04/2022 15:44:46    2412499

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "I have to take you to task here. You are being ungracious. Kerry had no problem with Páirc Uí Rinn and stated this. Some fans are upset as they won't get to see game now. The home and away agreement was between Pairc ui Caoimh and Fitzgerald stadium. Kerry had nothing to do with the picking of the venue and for you to say Kerry begrudgingly agreed is wrong and misleading. Cork were at fault not Kerry and Kerry have been very sporting once again but you have to throw in a snide remark."
There's the Kerryman coming out at last! It's Cork's fault! I'm not saying it's Kerry's fault in this instance, either, although they could have been more supportive. Specifically, it's the fault of the Munster Council. If you've read all the thread, you certainly haven't understood it all. There is a difference between Kerry saying that they don't care where a match is being played and Kerry urging that the home and away agreement be honored. All Kerry are concerned with is covering their own ass. Again, it's simply a home and away venue, not tied to any specific location. Having the bigger capacity venue available is of course preferable, but when it's not available, then you default to the next one.

As for snide remarks, I've heard plenty from Kerry PLAYERS over the years, not to mind supporters. I remember coming home from Killarney along narrow roads, with bonfires of car tyres burning on each side of the road, while Kerry supporters thumped the car bonnets and roared at the Cork supporters inside.

Midleton (Cork) - Posts: 621 - 24/04/2022 12:47:26    2412710

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Replying To Tiger1:  "Who cares where its played Kerry will win anyway"
For Kerry. simply winning is never enough. They have to be looked up as the shining knights of football.

Midleton (Cork) - Posts: 621 - 24/04/2022 12:50:03    2412711

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