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In this day and age, I don't think anybody expects open training sessions or detailed tactical information in these interviews. However, I don't see what the advantage is in holding out on injury news, which in a lot of cases is fairly obvious. Everybody who saw the Kildare game, for instance, knew that Brendan Harrison's injury was likely to be a serious one, yet we had the farce of the county setup keeping schtum while his club publicly acknowledged that he was out for the season. Mayo fans travel far and wide and in big numbers in support of the senior team, so it's disappointing that the current county setup are so reticent to provide any basic information like this, especially given the heavy financial commitment asked through club levies, increased Cáirde Mhaigh Eo subscription fees, fundraising abroad, tiles for the renovation of MacHale Park, etc. Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 20/05/2022 09:29:52 2418836 Link 1 |
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Monaghan will be a good test. No more than ourselves they'll be sore after going out of their provincial game. How soon before we know if that game will be on June 4th or 5th? GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7927 - 23/05/2022 08:50:20 2419567 Link 1 |
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Good draw for Donegal, Derry, Galway, Roscommon, Pat Spillane (individually) and the TV networks. Not good for us under normal circumstances. Monaghan will no doubt take the lessons from the Galway game (as Galway did from Tyrone, plus KW's tactics before that) and they've better players than Galway for the most part, particularly from midfield back. So no great grounds for optimism given that our circumstances are far from normal. Taking what we think we know, our defense should still be ok: the FB line will be familiar and the keeper solid (either Rob or Rory). With Paddy back and Eoghan McL back up to speed, the HB line will be all round more capable. After that things become a bit harder to feel good about. Midfield without Jordan Flynn will be a case of AOS (not getting any quicker) in there again, and/or drafting in our best half-forward (so borrowing from Peter....). The HF line is a movable feast. The FF line could be anything, with no Tommy, possibly no ROD or James Carr and both Cillian & Jason struggling to get back to full tilt (it took Andy a couple of years to get back). In Tommy's absence only James Carr tends to run directly at goals, so if he's not fit there's going to be a very structured approach with lots of passing and holding the ball. like a poor man's Dublin, with the prospect of a sub-16 points score. A goal or two for Monaghan would make that sort of total very easy to better. If the game is kept close and cagey (no cheap goals given away) then we'll be in with a shout. Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2521 - 23/05/2022 16:33:49 2419812 Link 1 |
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This current Mayo panel have become social recluses. We never get to hear from the camp at all. Not even if someone is fit or not. The wall of silence is even more frustrating when we can all see that they are unable or unwilling to fix the problems that have been obvious for a long time: 1. No long range point scorers in the half forward line 2. No accurate long range kick passers in the middle third 3. No left sided free taker 4. No consistently accurate 45 taker 5. No defensive minded middle third player to provide help to cover the top level forwards (and thus keep out goals in big matches) 6. No plan B. 7. Serious problems with S&C and injuries at the moment 8. No scoring forwards on the bench. It is down to sheer guts that the team keeps going with all of the above issues. "Lions led by donkeys" tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1349 - 24/05/2022 09:21:51 2419875 Link 2 |
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Time for Mayo players and especially the Management to stop the excuses and Learning and go out and win something with a full game of attacking football or else get out and let someone else do the job. They have the best of everything that money can buy yet all we get is soft goals each game and play for 20 minutes per game and no changes from line and injuries mounting up every week. Its time to pay the woman now or leave the bed. jacktheboy (Donegal) - Posts: 475 - 24/05/2022 09:51:33 2419880 Link 2 |
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link GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7927 - 24/05/2022 10:28:02 2419891 Link 1 |
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With all due respect, that's a lot of clichéd tripe. I don't think any team (even the Dubs at their peak) would beat a top team with so many of their starting team missing.
Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 24/05/2022 10:41:57 2419895 Link 1 |
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I'd agree with a lot of that, but IMO points 1-4 reflect some deficiencies with respect to coaching in the county. For instance, on 45s/free taking from the ground, we haven't had a reliable place kicker since Maurice Sheridan, and he retired in 2003 (not counting Hennelly as he's a goalie, and has only really become accurate from frees in the last year or so, IMO). I do think Horanball has probably run its course, for the simple reason that a lot of the crucial players/ line breakers in the middle of the field (Higgins, Boyle, Parsons, Vaughan etc.) have retired, and the system doesn't suit their replacements as well. The lack of a long point scoring option means that a lot of teams we play set up defensively and look to turn over the ball and counter, which the present management team hasn't counteracted. I would disagree with point 8, in the sense that the likes of Darren Coen and James Carr, even Kevin McLoughlin are well able to score off the bench. Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 24/05/2022 10:51:53 2419903 Link 0 |
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25 quid for a first round qualifier?!
MayoDan (Mayo) - Posts: 451 - 24/05/2022 10:56:43 2419905 Link 0 |
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It's championship, win or go home. Should be a cracker. What price do you think it should be?
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7927 - 24/05/2022 11:48:59 2419932 Link 1 |
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I have never seen any of those three step off the bench and kick 3-4 points - maybe one each in their entire careers
tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1349 - 24/05/2022 15:46:20 2420008 Link 0 |
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Kevin McLoughlin has, though not all points. Armagh qualifier 2019 anyways. I still don't see the wisdom of not starting him. He has slowed down and his workrate diminished with age but his decision making, kick passing and leadership is what's needed for me. Take him off for fresh legs later, too late bringing him in in the second half. We were very slow to make changes against Galway. Darren Coen started the same year v Roscommon, though probably needs a lot more time and space now, still the top club scorer in Mayo albeit not senior level. Seems to be a forgotten man, maybe rightfully but he's still in the squad, well able to take a score as shown v Dublin last year. Why is Fergal Boland so forgotten? Surely worth time off tge bench if not a starting berth.On current form Carr has to start. I've little faith in Orme or Carney coming off the bench, still too inexperienced, hopefully they're more confident attackers now. On current form Carr has to start. Looks full of confidence and a threat to any defence. Ryan O'Donoghue supposed to have a muscle injury and another rumour that Jordan Flynn might be available. Flynn rumour from an unreliable source, he's not a county board fan!!! Difficult to see him go from cast off to hard running on a summer pitch within two weeks. link Hard to know who's giving out the injury updates but we won't know the starting 15 until just before 4 on Saturday week after yet another dummy team is named before that for a perceived advantage. I think it's overthinking. Name the 15 and subs on the Thursday and be confident that they're good enough to beat Monaghan. It won't be easy. In Ferbruary if Monaghan had their shooting boots on, Conor McManus starting and Beggan better on frees they'd have beaten us that day. We gave them too many chances. It was just a league match but no more than ourselves there's more in the tank. Should be a great game of football. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7927 - 24/05/2022 17:00:44 2420030 Link 1 |
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I can't think of ANY current gaa players who are regularly kicking three to four points off the bench, can you? McLoughlin did so against Armagh a few years back in the qualifiers alright. Darren Coen is usually good for a score although he has a tendency to go for the odd mad one. Would hope that Carr would be fit enough to start as he has a bit of pace, something we're currently lacking in our forward line. Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 25/05/2022 08:41:59 2420076 Link 0 |
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Kevin M has apparently walked away, our only naturally gifted passer of the ball. Vish (USA) - Posts: 94 - 25/05/2022 16:14:54 2420214 Link 0 |
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That would be a pity. Great player, great heart. But a "naturally gifted passer" .....I don't think so.
anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 981 - 25/05/2022 16:51:21 2420224 Link 0 |
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With this Mayo team, its a resounding yes..
Vish (USA) - Posts: 94 - 25/05/2022 16:52:33 2420226 Link 0 |
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We will have to agree to disagree. Even with Knockmore, you would not describe his passing as being standout, despite having multiple other standaout attributes.
anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 981 - 25/05/2022 17:01:09 2420232 Link 0 |
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James Horan has confirmed no player has walked away. Lesson to learn here is don't pay much attention to attention seeking twitter account.
Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3599 - 25/05/2022 17:03:23 2420233 Link 2 |
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Good. Will be expecting him to be starting, or at least ready for a 20min impact role v Monaghan. Vish (USA) - Posts: 94 - 25/05/2022 18:08:34 2420243 Link 0 |
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You're looking at it from a Galway perspective. We are not blessed in this department. Vish (USA) - Posts: 94 - 25/05/2022 18:10:18 2420246 Link 0 |