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Replying To Edman78:  "Lomans have had no more than 5 starting players from the county final playing in nearly every single league game this year. They are the best team in Westmeath, and that comes at a cost with county u20 players, county hurlers, and county footballers. They have division 3 and 4 players starting league games for them. If you want Lomans to fail, then beat them, when it matters, in the championship. Unfortunately no team
Has been able to do that since 2020. Otherwise leave them be when they can barley field a team for the league. Typical Westmeath, tear everyone else's building down to make yours the tallest."
Well Loman's are some team. They put the mental into 'Mental Hospital' back in the day when they played under that moniker and are psychologically pepped for all those humdinger league clashes. Serious games, Ballycomoyle should have pulled lads from the county panel for crucial matches against in division 6 there last week. I mean we all have to focus on those real do or die matches. Some lads have been doing almighty preparation, lifting pints in both hands at the bar the day before such a titanic league struggle ensues. The fear in their eyes, the sweat on their brow, the smell of deep heat lathered on arthritic knees. Years of practice building to that thirst and desire to win, years of distraught at the thought of retribution if they get relegated into a specially prepared division 7 with just themselves and Loughnavalley. Loman's were pioneers in the psychiatric preparation required for junior football. The 'Moyle have gained great deeper wisdoms and insights into the minds of a senior team's league preparation. They too do be building themselves up like a coiled ball of baleing twine, ready at all times to snap up those titles, reel in those exciting prospects from around many other parishes and unravelling their spoils upon the field. The Mental Hospital are some team, I understand entirely the sentiment being expressed here.

RadioactiveTan (UK) - Posts: 28 - 15/05/2022 22:04:50    2417448

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will our footballers have any interest in the tailteann t cup

mickcunningham (Westmeath) - Posts: 1799 - 16/05/2022 15:26:09    2417787

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Replying To RadioactiveTan:  "Well Loman's are some team. They put the mental into 'Mental Hospital' back in the day when they played under that moniker and are psychologically pepped for all those humdinger league clashes. Serious games, Ballycomoyle should have pulled lads from the county panel for crucial matches against in division 6 there last week. I mean we all have to focus on those real do or die matches. Some lads have been doing almighty preparation, lifting pints in both hands at the bar the day before such a titanic league struggle ensues. The fear in their eyes, the sweat on their brow, the smell of deep heat lathered on arthritic knees. Years of practice building to that thirst and desire to win, years of distraught at the thought of retribution if they get relegated into a specially prepared division 7 with just themselves and Loughnavalley. Loman's were pioneers in the psychiatric preparation required for junior football. The 'Moyle have gained great deeper wisdoms and insights into the minds of a senior team's league preparation. They too do be building themselves up like a coiled ball of baleing twine, ready at all times to snap up those titles, reel in those exciting prospects from around many other parishes and unravelling their spoils upon the field. The Mental Hospital are some team, I understand entirely the sentiment being expressed here."
your talk is surely the handiwork of wisdom for not one word do I understand.
As for our footballers interest in the Tailteann cup first we need to find aomeone who remotely represents Rory O Connell.

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1445 - 16/05/2022 15:48:40    2417805

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Replying To mickcunningham:  "will our footballers have any interest in the tailteann t cup"
I would hope so Mick. Our Hurlers won the inaugural Christy Ring and played the 1st & 2nd Joe McDonagh Cup Finals, why not have the same ambition about this competition. It's something we've a realistic chance of competing in.
It also presents a chance for further development. Yesterday it was plain to see how far behind some of the top teams we are in all aspects of the game.
Personally I'd let some of the older players back to their clubs; not because they're not good enough but to be fair to them. They'll want to be fresh and ready for club action later in the summer; some of them are just back from injury and demands of inter-county action is a big ask - give them a few extra weeks' recovery and let's see them at their best in our local championship.
Play the Tailteann Cup with the extended panel; let these less experienced players have some exposure to this level. They can only benefit from it.

fizzygravy (USA) - Posts: 144 - 16/05/2022 16:07:00    2417814

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Great idea. In reality we have 5-6 players who all featured yesterday who are in the final stages of lengthy inter county careers, they have given tremendous service and many played in two Leinster finals. It's highly unlikely that more than 2 of these lads will feature for Westmeath beyond 2023, it's time to give game time to likes of Shane Allen, Robbie Forde, Trevor Martin, Conor Dillon, Lorcan Dolan, Charlie Drumm, TJ Cox, Kevin O' Sullivan and Andy McCormack. They represent the future, some of the more experienced lads looked spent yesterday just after half time. We'd still be competitive in this competition but it can serve a really good purpose. Supporters would also like to see new faces too.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1478 - 16/05/2022 16:24:17    2417821

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Great idea. In reality we have 5-6 players who all featured yesterday who are in the final stages of lengthy inter county careers, they have given tremendous service and many played in two Leinster finals. It's highly unlikely that more than 2 of these lads will feature for Westmeath beyond 2023, it's time to give game time to likes of Shane Allen, Robbie Forde, Trevor Martin, Conor Dillon, Lorcan Dolan, Charlie Drumm, TJ Cox, Kevin O' Sullivan and Andy McCormack. They represent the future, some of the more experienced lads looked spent yesterday just after half time. We'd still be competitive in this competition but it can serve a really good purpose. Supporters would also like to see new faces too."
Don't disagree but cannot see Jack Cooney taking that approach. At his stage in his tenure, surely he'll want to go as far as possible in the competition and surely that means having Kevin McGuire, Ger Egan, James Dolan etc on board, maybe as impact subs. Certainly does need to give more game time to those young lads listed. I'd like to see alot more of Robbie Forde and Kevin O'Sullivan, 2 fine talents in my opinion. Do we need to shake up the keeper position ? Daly a terrific shot stopper but kickouts questionable yesterday, granted Kildare had their homework done but if in doubt go long ! Haven't see much of Trevor Martin. Who else is there ?
As regards Laois, I thought the league game down there in February was tight enough until the closing stages so this could be a banana skin. Not sure what they have been at since the defeat to Wicklow on April 24th.

BigSur (Westmeath) - Posts: 1129 - 16/05/2022 17:58:03    2417888

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Replying To BigSur:  "Don't disagree but cannot see Jack Cooney taking that approach. At his stage in his tenure, surely he'll want to go as far as possible in the competition and surely that means having Kevin McGuire, Ger Egan, James Dolan etc on board, maybe as impact subs. Certainly does need to give more game time to those young lads listed. I'd like to see alot more of Robbie Forde and Kevin O'Sullivan, 2 fine talents in my opinion. Do we need to shake up the keeper position ? Daly a terrific shot stopper but kickouts questionable yesterday, granted Kildare had their homework done but if in doubt go long ! Haven't see much of Trevor Martin. Who else is there ?
As regards Laois, I thought the league game down there in February was tight enough until the closing stages so this could be a banana skin. Not sure what they have been at since the defeat to Wicklow on April 24th."
Jason Daly by far the best keeper in the county. Garrycastle's Sean Brennan is second in my opinion

Temple56 (Westmeath) - Posts: 384 - 16/05/2022 21:41:01    2417943

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Replying To Temple56:  " Jason Daly by far the best keeper in the county. Garrycastle's Sean Brennan is second in my opinion"
Athlones keeper is very good. Would rate him better than Brennan

sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1144 - 17/05/2022 11:22:01    2418047

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Replying To Westmeath213:  "No surprises there
Even with a win against shamrocks they will still need to beat rosemount the last day because of castledalys recent win.
Hope there relagated after that stunt"
Lomans back to their best tonight with only half a championship team on the field… hammered a very poor, but full strength shamrocks side.

2-20 to 2-4.

7 starters to return for Lomans for championship. Thy look a totally different team to the start of the league. Scary good this eve in LakePoint park.

Edman78 (Westmeath) - Posts: 100 - 17/05/2022 21:54:00    2418267

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Replying To sourmilk93:  "Athlones keeper is very good. Would rate him better than Brennan"
He's so good you don't even know is name!!

Temple56 (Westmeath) - Posts: 384 - 18/05/2022 16:23:09    2418478

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So Tailteann Cup southern 1st round v Laois confirmed for Sun 29th May @ 2pm in Portlaoise.
Nothing really novel about it but sure what can we do.
Laois crashed out to Wicklow on April 24th 5-15 to 4-12.
I was at the league game back in February which we won 2-11, 0-11 but it wasn't as comfortable as the scoreline suggests.
Kieran Martin scored a goal with literally the last kick of the game. It was level halway through the second half if I remember correctly.
No idea what Laois have been at since or of anyone has left the panel.
No doubt moral was low but they've had a chance to regroup and could be a banana skin if our lads are complacent.
13 of the team that played Laois back in Feb started v Kildare the last day with Lynam and Egan the 2 additions.

BigSur (Westmeath) - Posts: 1129 - 18/05/2022 16:26:38    2418481

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Replying To Temple56:  "He's so good you don't even know is name!!"
Darren Costello i do know his name, As good as around

sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1144 - 18/05/2022 16:42:56    2418496

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Is the strategic plan for 2022-2026 another white elephant? We won 1 game in the Leinster championship between minor and u20 football and hurling this year. No real signs of any great hope for strong senior teams in the future. We seem to be happy enough with the status quo in Westmeath and like to slap ourselves on the back when it comes to "moral victories".

The_Fonz (Westmeath) - Posts: 213 - 19/05/2022 20:13:58    2418813

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Castledaly win last night vs Tang leaves Lomans , Tang or Rosemount for relegation from div 1 . Winner of Lomans/Rosemount game safe or draw will do both unless Tang win vs Shandonagh. Tang have head to head on both

yellowboy (Westmeath) - Posts: 80 - 20/05/2022 10:34:54    2418871

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Replying To yellowboy:  "Castledaly win last night vs Tang leaves Lomans , Tang or Rosemount for relegation from div 1 . Winner of Lomans/Rosemount game safe or draw will do both unless Tang win vs Shandonagh. Tang have head to head on both"
Shamrocks could still drop of they lose to Milltown , Tang win, and Lomans v Rosemount is a draw.

jamsie (Westmeath) - Posts: 443 - 20/05/2022 12:53:27    2418929

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Replying To The_Fonz:  "Is the strategic plan for 2022-2026 another white elephant? We won 1 game in the Leinster championship between minor and u20 football and hurling this year. No real signs of any great hope for strong senior teams in the future. We seem to be happy enough with the status quo in Westmeath and like to slap ourselves on the back when it comes to "moral victories"."
Ummmm we are only 1 year into said Plan!

Meridian (Westmeath) - Posts: 601 - 20/05/2022 12:58:36    2418933

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Replying To Meridian:  "Ummmm we are only 1 year into said Plan!"
It was only launched on the 4th of May... I'm asking is it a load of nonsense. Going by what was reported in the papers a few weeks ago it sounds like a load of corporate waffle talk. I know because I work in an American multi national and a lot of what was said sounds like what I read and hear daily.
https://www.westmeathindependent.ie/2022/05/04/westmeath-gaas-strategic-plan-for-2022-26-launched/

The_Fonz (Westmeath) - Posts: 213 - 20/05/2022 13:23:45    2418951

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Replying To The_Fonz:  "Is the strategic plan for 2022-2026 another white elephant? We won 1 game in the Leinster championship between minor and u20 football and hurling this year. No real signs of any great hope for strong senior teams in the future. We seem to be happy enough with the status quo in Westmeath and like to slap ourselves on the back when it comes to "moral victories"."
Decades behind in regards underage coaching. Anyone who wants a job get a jobs. In fairness a lot of that has to do with the money in the club game. I asked a few week back but has anyone come across this plan online? Paid Marty a pile of cash to come launch it but no sign of a PDF been uploaded for anyone to have a look at it.

the21yardline (Westmeath) - Posts: 178 - 20/05/2022 15:01:43    2418996

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Replying To Temple56:  " Jason Daly by far the best keeper in the county. Garrycastle's Sean Brennan is second in my opinion"
We need to built for the future and in regards to the goalkeeper sean Brennan & Costello from athlone are over 30 likewise is Jason Daly.
Now is the time to give Trevor Martin the chance because how will he develop if he is not getting game time. Jordan nugent from castledaly should be worthy of a chance too very good shot stopper & sensible with kick outs and is only mid 20s.

Westmeath213 (Westmeath) - Posts: 332 - 21/05/2022 16:28:12    2419204

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Can teams get relegated on head to head or does it go to a playoff same as promotion in the leagues ?

PowellJohn (Westmeath) - Posts: 95 - 22/05/2022 16:23:58    2419459

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