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Replying To CARPS:  "Surely the onus is on the IRFU to move the time of the rugby game? Gaelic football is the most popular spectator sport in the country."
Why would any sport consider another sport in arranging its fixtures? It's hard enough arranging fixtures, dates and times, to suit our own sports, never mind rugby or soccer or whatever. What's worse for us is 3 of our Football League fixtures and 3 of our Hurling League fixtures are on at near enough the same time, meaning supporters cant attend both.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14538 - 30/01/2025 09:15:57    2588457

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Replying To CARPS:  "Surely the onus is on the IRFU to move the time of the rugby game? Gaelic football is the most popular spectator sport in the country."
Nonsense. As you well know the rugby match is on a different planet in terms of interest compared to Waterford and Carlow footballers.

How many people who plan on attending the football would also like to see the rugby if the times permitted? Around 75% I'd say.

How many people attending or watching the rugby would also like to attend or listen to Waterford v Carlow? About 0.001% or less I'd say.

But you think the onus is on the IRFU to change the time of their game !!!

Onion Breath (Carlow) - Posts: 1448 - 30/01/2025 17:10:34    2588535

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Replying To Viking66:  "Why would any sport consider another sport in arranging its fixtures? It's hard enough arranging fixtures, dates and times, to suit our own sports, never mind rugby or soccer or whatever. What's worse for us is 3 of our Football League fixtures and 3 of our Hurling League fixtures are on at near enough the same time, meaning supporters cant attend both."
GAA have changed times of their matches before to allow supporters to watch a much bigger event in another sport? Famously there are also times when they also haven't done so when they should, and paid a price for that at the turnstiles.

The Waterford Carlow match was originally fixed for Sunday but a couple of weeks ago it was changed to Saturday (with the hurling between the same counties being swapped). My point is they could surely have picked 7pm just as easily as 6pm or 3pm as easily as 6pm.

Unless there's another reason I'm unaware of, it would have been simple enough, not hard enough, to do that?

Tipp v Longford throws in at 2.30pm on Saturday. Cork v Limerick hurlers throws in at 7pm, as does Donegal v Dubs.

Your point about hurling and football fixtures clashing is completely valid and is also changeable if anyone in GAA authority was bothered. Sunday afternoon 23 March Carlow hurlers have a huge home game v Antrim. Same time, our footballers play a local derby away in Aughrim to Wicklow. A completely avoidable clash for Carlow supporters who'd like to attend both.

Onion Breath (Carlow) - Posts: 1448 - 30/01/2025 17:23:15    2588540

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Replying To Onion Breath:  "Nonsense. As you well know the rugby match is on a different planet in terms of interest compared to Waterford and Carlow footballers.

How many people who plan on attending the football would also like to see the rugby if the times permitted? Around 75% I'd say.

How many people attending or watching the rugby would also like to attend or listen to Waterford v Carlow? About 0.001% or less I'd say.

But you think the onus is on the IRFU to change the time of their game !!!"
Who's playing in the rugby? I don't follow it. All I know is that Gaelic Football is the most popular spectator sport in Ireland and we shouldn't be worrying about other codes. We play games all the time that clash with soccer and rugby matches - and that's only right and proper. These are foreign games. They are not indigenous to Ireland.

Watch the rugby if you want. I will be at the Carlow match. Supporting our local heroes. Not a bunch of lads from Blackrock College.

CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 760 - 31/01/2025 08:33:32    2588576

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Replying To Onion Breath:  "GAA have changed times of their matches before to allow supporters to watch a much bigger event in another sport? Famously there are also times when they also haven't done so when they should, and paid a price for that at the turnstiles.

The Waterford Carlow match was originally fixed for Sunday but a couple of weeks ago it was changed to Saturday (with the hurling between the same counties being swapped). My point is they could surely have picked 7pm just as easily as 6pm or 3pm as easily as 6pm.

Unless there's another reason I'm unaware of, it would have been simple enough, not hard enough, to do that?

Tipp v Longford throws in at 2.30pm on Saturday. Cork v Limerick hurlers throws in at 7pm, as does Donegal v Dubs.

Your point about hurling and football fixtures clashing is completely valid and is also changeable if anyone in GAA authority was bothered. Sunday afternoon 23 March Carlow hurlers have a huge home game v Antrim. Same time, our footballers play a local derby away in Aughrim to Wicklow. A completely avoidable clash for Carlow supporters who'd like to attend both."
You seem to be very vexed by this.

Does the English premier league change match times to avoid clashing with All Ireland finals? Does the rugby World Cup take into account GAA games?

Why do we need to be worrying about them? Let Brian O'Driscoll, Brendan Mullin and Willie John McBride worry about their game and we will worry about ours.

CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 760 - 31/01/2025 08:37:40    2588580

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Replying To carlo:  "I see the fixtures are out for the Leinster football Championship. We down to play Meath on 6th of April in Navan. I thought that was meant to be a home game for us as we were drawn out first?? Or is it down to home & away fixtures. In 2019 we played them in Portlaoise but I think the time before was in Dr Cullen"
Under Cake we should fear no team. If we can't beat Meath in Navan, how can we expect to beat the Dubs in Croke Park. I'd say we probably volunteered to play away. As a test of character.

CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 760 - 31/01/2025 08:40:08    2588581

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Replying To CARPS:  "Under Cake we should fear no team. If we can't beat Meath in Navan, how can we expect to beat the Dubs in Croke Park. I'd say we probably volunteered to play away. As a test of character."
That's if we can hold on to him for Championship, with the manager merry-go-round Cake could be in high demand from D1 & 2 teams.

All joking aside I fear we could be in for yet another 'transition season' as managers like to call them, with little change from last year going by the Tipp match, we still seem to fade in the final stages of the game only scoring 1-3 in the second half.

Anytime our opposition press our kick outs we struggle, our discipline consistently costing us, fitness still questionable, we don't seem to have found a replacement free taker for Darragh Foley, forever struggling with the basics. Despite this footballers should win down in Dungarvan.

What do we think of the Hurlers chance against Waterford? Hoping for a competitive game to build on last week.

Carlowrising (Carlow) - Posts: 152 - 31/01/2025 12:31:06    2588619

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Replying To CARPS:  "You seem to be very vexed by this.

Does the English premier league change match times to avoid clashing with All Ireland finals? Does the rugby World Cup take into account GAA games?

Why do we need to be worrying about them? Let Brian O'Driscoll, Brendan Mullin and Willie John McBride worry about their game and we will worry about ours."
Brendan Mullin has enough on his plate without burdening him with this matter.

Boxtyeater (Leitrim) - Posts: 723 - 31/01/2025 13:40:16    2588632

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Decent result tonight in Dungarvan.
This is shaping up to be a very tight division
Still feel Wexfordc and Wicklow will be the front runners

Blackbog (Carlow) - Posts: 728 - 01/02/2025 19:43:52    2588792

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Wasn't at the match, but a 'damned if they do, damned if they don't' type result. Good to have the 2 points in the bag playing away from home with a good spread of scorers. Hopefully there are lessons learned from last week against Tipp where we left a point behind. Wexford will be a bigger test

Bainisteoir (National) - Posts: 565 - 01/02/2025 20:20:12    2588799

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Went down to the match. Tough conditions. Ground out a half time lead. Waterdord were wasteful in sexond half but we destroyed them in last 10 or so. Pace in forwards showed and we put some good moves together. Tought lee walker had aome good moments when he came on. Choo choo and jamie clarke will be a big addition. Still woreied about our defence eapecially with new rules. Mid field was ok but needs strengthning. We only have 3 away games and two are against london and waterford. I never remember a kinder set of fixtures.

Bimb (Carlow) - Posts: 477 - 01/02/2025 22:15:40    2588815

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Replying To Bainisteoir:  "Wasn't at the match, but a 'damned if they do, damned if they don't' type result. Good to have the 2 points in the bag playing away from home with a good spread of scorers. Hopefully there are lessons learned from last week against Tipp where we left a point behind. Wexford will be a bigger test"
I was down there. Not that convincing a performance. Only three points up with about 10 mins to play and some apprehension around that Waterford could catch us like Tipp did. However Waterford are as poor an inter county side as I've ever seen. As bad as our handling was, in bad conditions I accept, Waterford's was twice as bad. Every time we turned it over to them they seemed to turn it back to us within seconds. That won't happen against any other team in this division. Saying that we did get some nice scores but we seem to lack a real marquee forward who'll do most of our scoring or who will seldom miss. Lee Walker looked good when he came in and Kevin Murphy took his goal well (dunno why he didn't start). Choo choo was there in the stand and will be a powerful addition when he's ready. John Murphy had a great game at pivot the best I've seen him for county. The two midfielders worked hard and caught good balls in the middle in conditions that I'd say suited both of them but they're not moving the ball quick enough for county in my opinion and on dry ground that won't do. That said we've lots of pace elsewhere in the team and that'll show up better when we get top of the ground.

Onion Breath (Carlow) - Posts: 1448 - 01/02/2025 22:56:24    2588820

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Re the new rules, unlike last week when a Tipp player did it this week one of ours fell back into our half leaving only two up. Only for a few seconds but should've been a 20 metre free for Waterford in front of the goal. The ref didn't notice but the linesman and fourth official seemed to notice and just looked at one another but did nothing, lucky for us as only three points in then. There will be big trouble when this happens in some big game this year when scores are tight and there's something big at stake.

Also the ref gave Waterford a two pointer in the first half that was definitely well inside the 40 metre arc. It seemed he mistook the penalty D marking for the 40 metre arc. It didn't matter today as it only gave Waterford
an extra point but if that happens later in the year there'll be more trouble.

The linesmen definitely need to get more involved in helping the ref it seems to me. They did nothing last week and nothing this week to help either ref when blatant mistaken were made. Refs simply can't do it all. There's going to be some craic in club matches though with no neutral linemen.

Onion Breath (Carlow) - Posts: 1448 - 01/02/2025 23:13:03    2588822

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Cake doing the business. Justifying the County Board's visionary appointment. Last night was another tactical masterclass. With his 39 man panel he was expected to to rotate, but he didn't. He only made one change. That must have stumped Waterford. You could see the surprise on their faces.

A terrific victory. We only beat Waterford by 11 last year, under Carew. Last year the wheels came off on match day three when Leix stuffed us. That won't happen this year. Fully expect a win over Wexford next week. Onwards to the sunlit uplands of Division Three.

Ceatharlach abú, cáca milis abú!

CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 760 - 02/02/2025 10:01:39    2588844

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Replying To CARPS:  "Cake doing the business. Justifying the County Board's visionary appointment. Last night was another tactical masterclass. With his 39 man panel he was expected to to rotate, but he didn't. He only made one change. That must have stumped Waterford. You could see the surprise on their faces.

A terrific victory. We only beat Waterford by 11 last year, under Carew. Last year the wheels came off on match day three when Leix stuffed us. That won't happen this year. Fully expect a win over Wexford next week. Onwards to the sunlit uplands of Division Three.

Ceatharlach abú, cáca milis abú!"
I love it when a plan comes together

Bimb (Carlow) - Posts: 477 - 02/02/2025 10:43:08    2588854

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Replying To CARPS:  "Cake doing the business. Justifying the County Board's visionary appointment. Last night was another tactical masterclass. With his 39 man panel he was expected to to rotate, but he didn't. He only made one change. That must have stumped Waterford. You could see the surprise on their faces.

A terrific victory. We only beat Waterford by 11 last year, under Carew. Last year the wheels came off on match day three when Leix stuffed us. That won't happen this year. Fully expect a win over Wexford next week. Onwards to the sunlit uplands of Division Three.

Ceatharlach abú, cáca milis abú!"
More like uisce beatha abu in your case, Carps.

Overthebar53 (Carlow) - Posts: 302 - 02/02/2025 11:27:45    2588857

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Replying To Onion Breath:  "I was down there. Not that convincing a performance. Only three points up with about 10 mins to play and some apprehension around that Waterford could catch us like Tipp did. However Waterford are as poor an inter county side as I've ever seen. As bad as our handling was, in bad conditions I accept, Waterford's was twice as bad. Every time we turned it over to them they seemed to turn it back to us within seconds. That won't happen against any other team in this division. Saying that we did get some nice scores but we seem to lack a real marquee forward who'll do most of our scoring or who will seldom miss. Lee Walker looked good when he came in and Kevin Murphy took his goal well (dunno why he didn't start). Choo choo was there in the stand and will be a powerful addition when he's ready. John Murphy had a great game at pivot the best I've seen him for county. The two midfielders worked hard and caught good balls in the middle in conditions that I'd say suited both of them but they're not moving the ball quick enough for county in my opinion and on dry ground that won't do. That said we've lots of pace elsewhere in the team and that'll show up better when we get top of the ground."
Tremendous to see the Graiguecullen club back on the Carlow team sheet. Hopefully Lee Walker's bravery will encourage more of his brethren from over the bridge to choose their own county over Leix. Lee is a real pioneer and he deserves huge praise. His transfer to Carlow is also a huge blow to Justin McNulty's plans. That should't be underestimated.

I would imagine Kevin Murphy was left off at the start as part of Cake's tactical masterplan. He played a sort of footballing version of Muhammad Ali's legendary 'rope a dope' last night. Waterford thought they had us on the ropes and in comes Murphy and -  wham bam - game over!

Agree about top of the ground. Carlow are like pedigree racehorses. We'd be more at home at Royal Ascot or Chantilly, not the muck of Clonmel or Thurles. I'm very optimistic of a serious Leinster challenge this spring under Cake.

CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 760 - 02/02/2025 11:55:42    2588863

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I am going to keep my powder dry til at least after the Wexford game.
I have seen far too many false dawns to have any degree of optimism yet.
Win our next 2 games then we can start hoping

Blackbog (Carlow) - Posts: 728 - 02/02/2025 12:36:00    2588868

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Replying To CARPS:  "Tremendous to see the Graiguecullen club back on the Carlow team sheet. Hopefully Lee Walker's bravery will encourage more of his brethren from over the bridge to choose their own county over Leix. Lee is a real pioneer and he deserves huge praise. His transfer to Carlow is also a huge blow to Justin McNulty's plans. That should't be underestimated.

I would imagine Kevin Murphy was left off at the start as part of Cake's tactical masterplan. He played a sort of footballing version of Muhammad Ali's legendary 'rope a dope' last night. Waterford thought they had us on the ropes and in comes Murphy and -  wham bam - game over!

Agree about top of the ground. Carlow are like pedigree racehorses. We'd be more at home at Royal Ascot or Chantilly, not the muck of Clonmel or Thurles. I'm very optimistic of a serious Leinster challenge this spring under Cake."
Ah Carps rookie mistake there. If you knew your racing you wouldn't associate Thurles with muck given all the problems they've had there this year.

I wish you were right about Lee Walker starting a trend but reality is he's not the same as the others as he wax in Carlow squads before when playing club with the Blues. It makes his case notably different but hope you're right.

Onion Breath (Carlow) - Posts: 1448 - 02/02/2025 12:42:43    2588869

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Replying To Blackbog:  "I am going to keep my powder dry til at least after the Wexford game.
I have seen far too many false dawns to have any degree of optimism yet.
Win our next 2 games then we can start hoping"
If Wexford are as strong this year as they say they are with most or all top talent opting in then I'd fear we could get a trimming down there in two weeks time. This team is brittle enough id say as shown v Tipp and we didn't beat Waterford as convincingly as score suggests.

Much as I'd like to i don't see grounds for optimism that Carlow will do any better than last season - mid table.

Onion Breath (Carlow) - Posts: 1448 - 02/02/2025 12:47:57    2588870

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