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Replying To Cbar:  "I just heard a rumour that Rochford has departed Donegal? Any truth in it? Given the vacant Mayo position he is being closely watched!"
That's been rumoured since the day of the Ulster final. Still don't know what exactly Rochford did in the few years he was with Donegal

greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 143 - 15/07/2022 10:23:57    2432154

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Replying To SouthOfTheGap:  "I didn't say they weren't good enough. I said they were been used in the wrong role."
What role would you play them in. Plenty opinions no answers.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 1722 - 15/07/2022 11:10:36    2432164

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Replying To rorysboys:  "Never questioned Mc Guinness managerial credentials, I said like all managers we had great days but we had a lot of bad days too.. why blame county board if we don't get him, are the clubs not allowed to nominate him. The more I read this forum makes me realise how out of touch people are regarding the position of our next manager. Im dam sure Donegal abroad your a member of a club so why waste your time telling us about mc Guinness go and tell your club to nominate him. We'll know then who's to blame if he doesn't take it."
It would help if the recruitment process was a bit more open and transparent. What happened last year was farcical and it was clear the CB didn't want any other candidates.

peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 338 - 15/07/2022 11:20:40    2432168

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Replying To greenfan:  "That's been rumoured since the day of the Ulster final. Still don't know what exactly Rochford did in the few years he was with Donegal"
Seems a decent sort hopefully he'll be a success in his next venture. This county deserves nothing full of people who do nothing and know it all. They think there Donegal followers I have a name for them but it wudnt be allowed on here. See bonner and rochford are being attacked again on social media since last night. A lot of low life's about.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 1722 - 15/07/2022 11:22:15    2432169

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Whatever you think about the county board they are definitely handling the management situation with a bit more dignity than the way The Tipperary board treated that other Donegal Bonnar.You rarely see a manager relieved of their duties in the GAA (sacked) like you see in professional sports.

gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 837 - 15/07/2022 11:51:04    2432174

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Replying To rorysboys:  "Seems a decent sort hopefully he'll be a success in his next venture. This county deserves nothing full of people who do nothing and know it all. They think there Donegal followers I have a name for them but it wudnt be allowed on here. See bonner and rochford are being attacked again on social media since last night. A lot of low life's about."
they're in every county , not just Donegal. Unfortunately its one of the downsides of social media

greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 143 - 15/07/2022 13:03:49    2432202

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Bonner should have faced the media and resigned himself long before now, he should never have been reappointed anyway last year,
I hope they get the managerial appointment right this time and we start getting the best out of the talent we have available,
this is painful dragged out ****show at this stage, for love of God man just go.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2153 - 15/07/2022 13:09:17    2432204

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Replying To greenfan:  "they're in every county , not just Donegal. Unfortunately its one of the downsides of social media"
yes on Cavan forum one is stating that mickey graham has wasted a generation so winning an ulster title which cavan do appox every 20 years is wasting a generation its help alot of them need.

breffnibluewhite (Cavan) - Posts: 250 - 15/07/2022 13:16:41    2432208

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "Bonner should have faced the media and resigned himself long before now, he should never have been reappointed anyway last year,
I hope they get the managerial appointment right this time and we start getting the best out of the talent we have available,
this is painful dragged out ****show at this stage, for love of God man just go."
If Bonner does step away it won't be easy for the county board to 'get the managerial appointment right'. I wouldn't be too critical of them, because they can only pick the manager from the people who apply for the job, people who are willing to put themselves forward. They're not a premier league club who can go and throw millions to whoever they want. When push comes to shove, the list of candidates will be fairly short. So anyone thinking we're going to end up with a messiah who will make everything better will be probably be disappointed.

greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 143 - 15/07/2022 13:42:44    2432219

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Replying To rorysboys:  "What role would you play them in. Plenty opinions no answers."
You argued (your opinion) that we didnt have man markers. My opinion is that Ward and McMenamin are plenty good as traditional type man markers. My answer is that you tell them when they win possession, to let the ball on to ball carriers, and they hold their positions. Most opposition will be happy to see them carrying ball into their half, cos they know they don't offer a threat.
Eoin Ban and Odhrán McFadden Ferry for example are very capable man markers, but have more ability on the ball. My opinion is that although they may be capable of both, that they should focus on their primary duties, but to take advantage of space as and when it opens up in front of them.
Its a forum, where people express opinions. The answers arent inside the back page. You look for answers, but when they are laid out you go on the attack.

SouthOfTheGap (Donegal) - Posts: 279 - 15/07/2022 13:53:46    2432222

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Replying To greenfan:  "If Bonner does step away it won't be easy for the county board to 'get the managerial appointment right'. I wouldn't be too critical of them, because they can only pick the manager from the people who apply for the job, people who are willing to put themselves forward. They're not a premier league club who can go and throw millions to whoever they want. When push comes to shove, the list of candidates will be fairly short. So anyone thinking we're going to end up with a messiah who will make everything better will be probably be disappointed."
I know but if we don't try and change and improve we'll just get more of the same so that's just life,no guarantees in this game,
I hope they get the right management in place this time, the Donegal job has to very attractive though to any manager given the talent pool we have available. Bonner looked like he had us heading in the right direction in the first few years, for whatever reasons we've regressed badly in the last 3 years.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2153 - 15/07/2022 13:59:23    2432226

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Replying To greenfan:  "If Bonner does step away it won't be easy for the county board to 'get the managerial appointment right'. I wouldn't be too critical of them, because they can only pick the manager from the people who apply for the job, people who are willing to put themselves forward. They're not a premier league club who can go and throw millions to whoever they want. When push comes to shove, the list of candidates will be fairly short. So anyone thinking we're going to end up with a messiah who will make everything better will be probably be disappointed."
Yea, the only ones who can get the job is those who apply or are nominated. So it could be a scarce enough number. County board will want it local which is right a few fools on here mentioning names which will cost a fortune. I know for one my club or alot of clubs will not be funding it. As for Mc Guinness if he wants it good don't think he will. But no doubt once the candidate is chosen the clueless people on social media will be out in there droves blaming the county board.. if I hear Jim gavins name again I'm going into isolation, he wudnt touch us. No word from the keeper maybe he's in negotiations with Jim Mc Guinness. Lol

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 1722 - 15/07/2022 14:13:23    2432233

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Replying To SouthOfTheGap:  "You argued (your opinion) that we didnt have man markers. My opinion is that Ward and McMenamin are plenty good as traditional type man markers. My answer is that you tell them when they win possession, to let the ball on to ball carriers, and they hold their positions. Most opposition will be happy to see them carrying ball into their half, cos they know they don't offer a threat.
Eoin Ban and Odhrán McFadden Ferry for example are very capable man markers, but have more ability on the ball. My opinion is that although they may be capable of both, that they should focus on their primary duties, but to take advantage of space as and when it opens up in front of them.
Its a forum, where people express opinions. The answers arent inside the back page. You look for answers, but when they are laid out you go on the attack."
Man markers nowadays have to comfortable on the ball as well. This is the point that seems hard to get through. You look at Kerry defenders every one can man mark and can kick scores if needed. We don't have that. I rest my case.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 1722 - 15/07/2022 14:17:48    2432235

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Replying To rorysboys:  "Never questioned Mc Guinness managerial credentials, I said like all managers we had great days but we had a lot of bad days too.. why blame county board if we don't get him, are the clubs not allowed to nominate him. The more I read this forum makes me realise how out of touch people are regarding the position of our next manager. Im dam sure Donegal abroad your a member of a club so why waste your time telling us about mc Guinness go and tell your club to nominate him. We'll know then who's to blame if he doesn't take it."
I am a member of a club yes Roryboys but I wouldn't get near enough the politics internally in terms of decisions to influence the club's nomination. Things work a certain way no more than the county board. If you're blind to the politics of this country I suggest you're in the middle of it yourself or you're naive. And we did not have 'a lot of bad days' under Jim. Faulty memory if ever I saw it.

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1155 - 15/07/2022 15:06:06    2432242

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Replying To rorysboys:  "Man markers nowadays have to comfortable on the ball as well. This is the point that seems hard to get through. You look at Kerry defenders every one can man mark and can kick scores if needed. We don't have that. I rest my case."
One or two, maybe 3 of them can, certainly not all of them can. I contend that we have just as many that can. To use an example of a retired player as not to single out any of our current players, Paddy McGrath didn't go up and kick many points, but he was one of the best man markers in the game, and an absolute monument of a man. Yes he made breaks up the field to support the play, but he didn't carry the ball, and certainly did not carry into contact. If Derry saw Paddy soloing the ball up the field in the Ulster Final like our current corner backs, Rory Gallagher would have been rubbing his hands even more than usual.

You accused me of being all opinions and no answers. If you can produce evidence that all Kerry defenders can go up the field and kick points, produce it please. Otherwise its just your opinion you are offering, the same as everyone else on this forum.

You accused me of disrespecting players. I did no such thing. You'll not find one single post of mine where I name a player as not being good enough. I may say they are not being used in the wrong role, but not that they are not good enough. Most players who pull on a Donegal county jersey are capable of doing a job, but that doesn't mean they can do every job, nor should they have to.

There's no need to be on attack mode with everyone who contributes an opinion you don't agree with. You've gotten my back up unnecessarily. If I don't get back on this evening, it's because I've a match to go to this evening after I have training with the kids.

SouthOfTheGap (Donegal) - Posts: 279 - 15/07/2022 15:20:04    2432246

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Replying To Donegal_abroad:  "I am a member of a club yes Roryboys but I wouldn't get near enough the politics internally in terms of decisions to influence the club's nomination. Things work a certain way no more than the county board. If you're blind to the politics of this country I suggest you're in the middle of it yourself or you're naive. And we did not have 'a lot of bad days' under Jim. Faulty memory if ever I saw it."
Nothing wrong with my memory lad. 2011 semi v Dublin shamed to be a Donegal fan. 2013 Ulster final v Monaghan beaten at half time. 2013 quarter final beaten after 20 min versus mayo. 2014 league final we'll beaten in croke park against Monaghan. 2014 all Ireland final beaten by probably the worst Kerry team ever to win Sam. Don't get me started lad. Nothing against Mc Guinness great manager. Have you selective memory lad I don't. Disastrous days being a Donegal fan.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 1722 - 15/07/2022 15:55:57    2432255

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Replying To SouthOfTheGap:  "One or two, maybe 3 of them can, certainly not all of them can. I contend that we have just as many that can. To use an example of a retired player as not to single out any of our current players, Paddy McGrath didn't go up and kick many points, but he was one of the best man markers in the game, and an absolute monument of a man. Yes he made breaks up the field to support the play, but he didn't carry the ball, and certainly did not carry into contact. If Derry saw Paddy soloing the ball up the field in the Ulster Final like our current corner backs, Rory Gallagher would have been rubbing his hands even more than usual.

You accused me of being all opinions and no answers. If you can produce evidence that all Kerry defenders can go up the field and kick points, produce it please. Otherwise its just your opinion you are offering, the same as everyone else on this forum.

You accused me of disrespecting players. I did no such thing. You'll not find one single post of mine where I name a player as not being good enough. I may say they are not being used in the wrong role, but not that they are not good enough. Most players who pull on a Donegal county jersey are capable of doing a job, but that doesn't mean they can do every job, nor should they have to.

There's no need to be on attack mode with everyone who contributes an opinion you don't agree with. You've gotten my back up unnecessarily. If I don't get back on this evening, it's because I've a match to go to this evening after I have training with the kids."
Where's all the delusion coming from, I can't understand. People on here believing that management held players back from getting probably to an all Ireland final this last few years. What happens next year when we fail will yous all come back and say Rory's boys you were right. Maybe I'm a bit too clever for this forum, time will Tell I hope I'm not as smart as I think I am. Because I love Donegal football. As for the Kerry defenders just go through them add Paul Murphy and come back to me if you think there not real defenders. If we had them I believe we would win an all Ireland. Enjoy the training lad I'm heading there myself

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 1722 - 15/07/2022 16:20:32    2432257

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Replying To SouthOfTheGap:  "One or two, maybe 3 of them can, certainly not all of them can. I contend that we have just as many that can. To use an example of a retired player as not to single out any of our current players, Paddy McGrath didn't go up and kick many points, but he was one of the best man markers in the game, and an absolute monument of a man. Yes he made breaks up the field to support the play, but he didn't carry the ball, and certainly did not carry into contact. If Derry saw Paddy soloing the ball up the field in the Ulster Final like our current corner backs, Rory Gallagher would have been rubbing his hands even more than usual.

You accused me of being all opinions and no answers. If you can produce evidence that all Kerry defenders can go up the field and kick points, produce it please. Otherwise its just your opinion you are offering, the same as everyone else on this forum.

You accused me of disrespecting players. I did no such thing. You'll not find one single post of mine where I name a player as not being good enough. I may say they are not being used in the wrong role, but not that they are not good enough. Most players who pull on a Donegal county jersey are capable of doing a job, but that doesn't mean they can do every job, nor should they have to.

There's no need to be on attack mode with everyone who contributes an opinion you don't agree with. You've gotten my back up unnecessarily. If I don't get back on this evening, it's because I've a match to go to this evening after I have training with the kids."
Don't worry South of the Gap, reasonable comments are now moderated here by one person who is on the attack at all times. No fair-minded comments are allowed anymore, you'll get told how little you know by the all-seeing sage.

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1155 - 15/07/2022 17:13:17    2432269

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Delansboy is going to have nothing to do on here after Bonner is gone, so we are getting rid of 2 failed birds with one stone so at east that's something, no need for it to have dragged on this long tough in all fairness, Bonner has only really damaged his own legacy by delaying the inevitable.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2153 - 16/07/2022 10:16:41    2432299

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Replying To Donegal_abroad:  "Don't worry South of the Gap, reasonable comments are now moderated here by one person who is on the attack at all times. No fair-minded comments are allowed anymore, you'll get told how little you know by the all-seeing sage."
100%

He puts most people off posting and has the mentality of a 3 year old

eunans4ever (Donegal) - Posts: 1305 - 16/07/2022 13:20:37    2432332

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