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Replying To slasher9:  "Maybe its the player not the position he has been tried all over the pitch except the goals and hasnt worked, our aiden o shea! Maybe theres a new position to try in the goals!!"
He's a top player maybe slightly past his best. Tried very hard yesterday. He's not a forward. Just play him centre half back & be done with it!

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 06/02/2023 16:53:50    2456880

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Replying To Spinx:  "After a night to sleep on and reflect, I take back what I said about the players. What I said was heat of the moment and bore out of frustration. We have to remember, these are amateur lads who give up their free time to represent our county. It's not as if they deliberately went out to get hammered yesterday. They burst their b@lls a few nights a week when they could be at home with their feet up watching football on the TV or whatever. I want to apologise to the squad on what I said."
Fair point disappointing defeat but fair statement suppose we all reacted bit harshly

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 274 - 06/02/2023 17:47:34    2456889

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Replying To keeper7:  "He's a top player maybe slightly past his best. Tried very hard yesterday. He's not a forward. Just play him centre half back & be done with it!"
been tried there and never marked by going forward all teh time. Not singleing anyone out but i saw no effort from anyone yesterday except reynolds i dont understand it. Where is jack duggan and james moran two off the best young players in the county

slasher9 (Longford) - Posts: 236 - 06/02/2023 18:44:56    2456898

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Does anyone know whats happening in Longford with minor? Are they staying at u17 for 2023 or going back to u18?
Need to be quick to act - some u18s already training with adult teams, will they be made stop and go back to underage for the year? Another mess by the GAA

honda15 (Longford) - Posts: 94 - 07/02/2023 12:00:07    2456981

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With the footballers not out until the 19th up in Cavan what changes could be made after the drubbing received at the weekend. Did we get carried away with the O'Byrne cup success or are they in a very heavy patch of training, I wasn't there but from hearing from people that were they looked stuck to the ground. It really is an uphill task to stay in the division if they dont get a result against Cavan.

As for the hurlers they must've been extremely disappointed to lose on Saturday last, maybe it would be worthwhile retaining some of the older heads on the local club hurling scene to help see out games as the manager has opted for a very young and inexperienced squad.

keepitlit (Longford) - Posts: 36 - 08/02/2023 15:30:04    2457293

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Replying To keepitlit:  "With the footballers not out until the 19th up in Cavan what changes could be made after the drubbing received at the weekend. Did we get carried away with the O'Byrne cup success or are they in a very heavy patch of training, I wasn't there but from hearing from people that were they looked stuck to the ground. It really is an uphill task to stay in the division if they dont get a result against Cavan.

As for the hurlers they must've been extremely disappointed to lose on Saturday last, maybe it would be worthwhile retaining some of the older heads on the local club hurling scene to help see out games as the manager has opted for a very young and inexperienced squad."
Apparently 47 players were invited into the hurling squad with only 24 accepting the offer. Just 1 on the panel from Clonguish who are the current county champions…

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 08/02/2023 16:15:12    2457308

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Replying To keeper7:  "Apparently 47 players were invited into the hurling squad with only 24 accepting the offer. Just 1 on the panel from Clonguish who are the current county champions…"
Yeah I saw that interview too, think there was a good bit of damage done in his first year with treatment of some of the older established players. I can appreciate that he is trying to gel a young team together but think I'd be more supportive if the focus was just on players from Longford and not from outside the County. The County champions only having one representative is very strange

keepitlit (Longford) - Posts: 36 - 08/02/2023 16:26:25    2457313

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Replying To keeper7:  "Apparently 47 players were invited into the hurling squad with only 24 accepting the offer. Just 1 on the panel from Clonguish who are the current county champions…"
Wasn't it just 19 or 20 that accepted? The quote from the manager was... "From a Longford perspective, we were disappointed with the response that we got from the clubs. We contacted forty-seven players and for various reasons, a lot of them could not commit. We will end up with just nineteen or twenty players from the Longford clubs and that will leave our panel very tight".

When you only have 3 clubs, it's always gonna be hard to maintain numbers over time. Certainly not their fault that things are how they are. Hard to believe its now more than 20 years with just 3 hurling clubs (end of 2001 was last time there was more than 3, I think). No sign of that increasing anytime soon either. Crazy!

LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 506 - 08/02/2023 17:19:37    2457339

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Replying To LongfordgaaAbú:  "Wasn't it just 19 or 20 that accepted? The quote from the manager was... "From a Longford perspective, we were disappointed with the response that we got from the clubs. We contacted forty-seven players and for various reasons, a lot of them could not commit. We will end up with just nineteen or twenty players from the Longford clubs and that will leave our panel very tight".

When you only have 3 clubs, it's always gonna be hard to maintain numbers over time. Certainly not their fault that things are how they are. Hard to believe its now more than 20 years with just 3 hurling clubs (end of 2001 was last time there was more than 3, I think). No sign of that increasing anytime soon either. Crazy!"
For a while it was only two Senior clubs as well as Slashers were unable to field a team for a couple of years, thankfully they have got back on track, but outside of a core group of people in each club the pool really is that small with little chance of growing

keepitlit (Longford) - Posts: 36 - 09/02/2023 09:45:02    2457384

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Replying To LongfordgaaAbú:  "Wasn't it just 19 or 20 that accepted? The quote from the manager was... "From a Longford perspective, we were disappointed with the response that we got from the clubs. We contacted forty-seven players and for various reasons, a lot of them could not commit. We will end up with just nineteen or twenty players from the Longford clubs and that will leave our panel very tight".

When you only have 3 clubs, it's always gonna be hard to maintain numbers over time. Certainly not their fault that things are how they are. Hard to believe its now more than 20 years with just 3 hurling clubs (end of 2001 was last time there was more than 3, I think). No sign of that increasing anytime soon either. Crazy!"
Not true. Kenagh are doing phenomenal work at underage given the low numbers in the area in general, if they can keep that going there will have a senior team in 15 or so years. I see where a Wexford club have a motion going to Congress looking for every club to field at least one hurling team from the ages U7 to U10, a nice idea in principle but could not see it working in practice unfortunately.

liosbreac6265 (Longford) - Posts: 224 - 09/02/2023 10:42:34    2457402

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Replying To liosbreac6265:  "
Replying To LongfordgaaAbú:  "Wasn't it just 19 or 20 that accepted? The quote from the manager was... "From a Longford perspective, we were disappointed with the response that we got from the clubs. We contacted forty-seven players and for various reasons, a lot of them could not commit. We will end up with just nineteen or twenty players from the Longford clubs and that will leave our panel very tight".

When you only have 3 clubs, it's always gonna be hard to maintain numbers over time. Certainly not their fault that things are how they are. Hard to believe its now more than 20 years with just 3 hurling clubs (end of 2001 was last time there was more than 3, I think). No sign of that increasing anytime soon either. Crazy!"
Not true. Kenagh are doing phenomenal work at underage given the low numbers in the area in general, if they can keep that going there will have a senior team in 15 or so years. I see where a Wexford club have a motion going to Congress looking for every club to field at least one hurling team from the ages U7 to U10, a nice idea in principle but could not see it working in practice unfortunately."
Kenagh are gonna struggle to keep it going as they have such small numbers.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 09/02/2023 11:14:33    2457409

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Replying To keeper7:  "
Replying To liosbreac6265:  "[quote=LongfordgaaAbú:  "Wasn't it just 19 or 20 that accepted? The quote from the manager was... "From a Longford perspective, we were disappointed with the response that we got from the clubs. We contacted forty-seven players and for various reasons, a lot of them could not commit. We will end up with just nineteen or twenty players from the Longford clubs and that will leave our panel very tight".

When you only have 3 clubs, it's always gonna be hard to maintain numbers over time. Certainly not their fault that things are how they are. Hard to believe its now more than 20 years with just 3 hurling clubs (end of 2001 was last time there was more than 3, I think). No sign of that increasing anytime soon either. Crazy!"
Not true. Kenagh are doing phenomenal work at underage given the low numbers in the area in general, if they can keep that going there will have a senior team in 15 or so years. I see where a Wexford club have a motion going to Congress looking for every club to field at least one hurling team from the ages U7 to U10, a nice idea in principle but could not see it working in practice unfortunately."
Kenagh are gonna struggle to keep it going as they have such small numbers."]Yep, I don't see it manifesting into another adult club.
22 years and counting now with just 3 adult hurling clubs!!!

LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 506 - 09/02/2023 11:38:39    2457417

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Replying To LongfordgaaAbú:  "
Replying To keeper7:  "[quote=liosbreac6265:  "[quote=LongfordgaaAbú:  "Wasn't it just 19 or 20 that accepted? The quote from the manager was... "From a Longford perspective, we were disappointed with the response that we got from the clubs. We contacted forty-seven players and for various reasons, a lot of them could not commit. We will end up with just nineteen or twenty players from the Longford clubs and that will leave our panel very tight".

When you only have 3 clubs, it's always gonna be hard to maintain numbers over time. Certainly not their fault that things are how they are. Hard to believe its now more than 20 years with just 3 hurling clubs (end of 2001 was last time there was more than 3, I think). No sign of that increasing anytime soon either. Crazy!"
Not true. Kenagh are doing phenomenal work at underage given the low numbers in the area in general, if they can keep that going there will have a senior team in 15 or so years. I see where a Wexford club have a motion going to Congress looking for every club to field at least one hurling team from the ages U7 to U10, a nice idea in principle but could not see it working in practice unfortunately."
Kenagh are gonna struggle to keep it going as they have such small numbers."]Yep, I don't see it manifesting into another adult club.
22 years and counting now with just 3 adult hurling clubs!!!"]Have you anything else in that crystal ball, maybe the lotto numbers? No need to be so dismissive of a club trying their hardest to keep the ancient game going. If other clubs with much bigger numbers got their fingers out we'd have more than 3 much sooner!

liosbreac6265 (Longford) - Posts: 224 - 09/02/2023 12:18:50    2457430

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Replying To keepitlit:  "
Replying To LongfordgaaAbú:  "Wasn't it just 19 or 20 that accepted? The quote from the manager was... "From a Longford perspective, we were disappointed with the response that we got from the clubs. We contacted forty-seven players and for various reasons, a lot of them could not commit. We will end up with just nineteen or twenty players from the Longford clubs and that will leave our panel very tight".

When you only have 3 clubs, it's always gonna be hard to maintain numbers over time. Certainly not their fault that things are how they are. Hard to believe its now more than 20 years with just 3 hurling clubs (end of 2001 was last time there was more than 3, I think). No sign of that increasing anytime soon either. Crazy!"
For a while it was only two Senior clubs as well as Slashers were unable to field a team for a couple of years, thankfully they have got back on track, but outside of a core group of people in each club the pool really is that small with little chance of growing"
Slashers seemed to suffer more than the other 2 clubs supposedly because their senior footballers (up until recently anyway) were discouraged from playing hurling by the football setup in the club. In fairness to them, they put in a major effort in the meantime to get their underage structures in order which is why they've been much more prominent since.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 09/02/2023 12:20:36    2457432

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Replying To keeper7:  "
Replying To keepitlit:  "[quote=LongfordgaaAbú:  "Wasn't it just 19 or 20 that accepted? The quote from the manager was... "From a Longford perspective, we were disappointed with the response that we got from the clubs. We contacted forty-seven players and for various reasons, a lot of them could not commit. We will end up with just nineteen or twenty players from the Longford clubs and that will leave our panel very tight".

When you only have 3 clubs, it's always gonna be hard to maintain numbers over time. Certainly not their fault that things are how they are. Hard to believe its now more than 20 years with just 3 hurling clubs (end of 2001 was last time there was more than 3, I think). No sign of that increasing anytime soon either. Crazy!"
For a while it was only two Senior clubs as well as Slashers were unable to field a team for a couple of years, thankfully they have got back on track, but outside of a core group of people in each club the pool really is that small with little chance of growing"
Slashers seemed to suffer more than the other 2 clubs supposedly because their senior footballers (up until recently anyway) were discouraged from playing hurling by the football setup in the club. In fairness to them, they put in a major effort in the meantime to get their underage structures in order which is why they've been much more prominent since."]To be fair that is true of all three clubs in the county depending on the state of their football teams, their is more value placed on winning a Connolly Cup rather than the JJ Duignan Cup. When you throw in the fact that all three clubs pull players from outside their own clubs (mostly Intermediate ones Grattans, Ballinalee, Killashee, Drumlish) and some senior too (Killoe, Mullinaghta ) then thats a lot of pressure and focus on football to the detriment of hurling in the county

keepitlit (Longford) - Posts: 36 - 09/02/2023 13:08:19    2457445

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Replying To liosbreac6265:  "
Replying To LongfordgaaAbú:  "[quote=keeper7:  "[quote=liosbreac6265:  "[quote=LongfordgaaAbú:  "Wasn't it just 19 or 20 that accepted? The quote from the manager was... "From a Longford perspective, we were disappointed with the response that we got from the clubs. We contacted forty-seven players and for various reasons, a lot of them could not commit. We will end up with just nineteen or twenty players from the Longford clubs and that will leave our panel very tight".

When you only have 3 clubs, it's always gonna be hard to maintain numbers over time. Certainly not their fault that things are how they are. Hard to believe its now more than 20 years with just 3 hurling clubs (end of 2001 was last time there was more than 3, I think). No sign of that increasing anytime soon either. Crazy!"
Not true. Kenagh are doing phenomenal work at underage given the low numbers in the area in general, if they can keep that going there will have a senior team in 15 or so years. I see where a Wexford club have a motion going to Congress looking for every club to field at least one hurling team from the ages U7 to U10, a nice idea in principle but could not see it working in practice unfortunately."
Kenagh are gonna struggle to keep it going as they have such small numbers."]Yep, I don't see it manifesting into another adult club.
22 years and counting now with just 3 adult hurling clubs!!!"]Have you anything else in that crystal ball, maybe the lotto numbers? No need to be so dismissive of a club trying their hardest to keep the ancient game going. If other clubs with much bigger numbers got their fingers out we'd have more than 3 much sooner!"]It's a forum. All posters are permitted to express their views and their predictions, just as you have done in predicting as far into the future as 15 years from now (!!) via your crystal ball, that Kenagh will have a senior hurling club. I hope they do, but the likelihood is statistically not very strong. That is a numerical assessment coupled with what is now a significant chunk of time without any new clubs. Barking at people online for expressing an opinion you don't agree with, and accusing them of dismissing effort (which I didn't) isn't going to make your points any more valid.

LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 506 - 09/02/2023 13:23:49    2457450

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Replying To LongfordgaaAbú:  "
Replying To liosbreac6265:  "[quote=LongfordgaaAbú:  "[quote=keeper7:  "[quote=liosbreac6265:  "[quote=LongfordgaaAbú:  "Wasn't it just 19 or 20 that accepted? The quote from the manager was... "From a Longford perspective, we were disappointed with the response that we got from the clubs. We contacted forty-seven players and for various reasons, a lot of them could not commit. We will end up with just nineteen or twenty players from the Longford clubs and that will leave our panel very tight".

When you only have 3 clubs, it's always gonna be hard to maintain numbers over time. Certainly not their fault that things are how they are. Hard to believe its now more than 20 years with just 3 hurling clubs (end of 2001 was last time there was more than 3, I think). No sign of that increasing anytime soon either. Crazy!"
Not true. Kenagh are doing phenomenal work at underage given the low numbers in the area in general, if they can keep that going there will have a senior team in 15 or so years. I see where a Wexford club have a motion going to Congress looking for every club to field at least one hurling team from the ages U7 to U10, a nice idea in principle but could not see it working in practice unfortunately."
Kenagh are gonna struggle to keep it going as they have such small numbers."]Yep, I don't see it manifesting into another adult club.
22 years and counting now with just 3 adult hurling clubs!!!"]Have you anything else in that crystal ball, maybe the lotto numbers? No need to be so dismissive of a club trying their hardest to keep the ancient game going. If other clubs with much bigger numbers got their fingers out we'd have more than 3 much sooner!"]It's a forum. All posters are permitted to express their views and their predictions, just as you have done in predicting as far into the future as 15 years from now (!!) via your crystal ball, that Kenagh will have a senior hurling club. I hope they do, but the likelihood is statistically not very strong. That is a numerical assessment coupled with what is now a significant chunk of time without any new clubs. Barking at people online for expressing an opinion you don't agree with, and accusing them of dismissing effort (which I didn't) isn't going to make your points any more valid."]I said "if" they can keep it going at underage the way they are they will have a senior team. They absolutely will, if they can keep what they are doing going. You dismissed them by just saying you don't see their underage manifesting into another club. It's highly likely that if they keep producing underage teams they will sooner or later produce an adult one. If you think they are due to stop producing underage teams you should maybe inform the coaches there to stop wasting any more time!

liosbreac6265 (Longford) - Posts: 224 - 09/02/2023 14:21:36    2457474

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Replying To liosbreac6265:  "
Replying To LongfordgaaAbú:  "[quote=liosbreac6265:  "[quote=LongfordgaaAbú:  "[quote=keeper7:  "[quote=liosbreac6265:  "[quote=LongfordgaaAbú:  "Wasn't it just 19 or 20 that accepted? The quote from the manager was... "From a Longford perspective, we were disappointed with the response that we got from the clubs. We contacted forty-seven players and for various reasons, a lot of them could not commit. We will end up with just nineteen or twenty players from the Longford clubs and that will leave our panel very tight".

When you only have 3 clubs, it's always gonna be hard to maintain numbers over time. Certainly not their fault that things are how they are. Hard to believe its now more than 20 years with just 3 hurling clubs (end of 2001 was last time there was more than 3, I think). No sign of that increasing anytime soon either. Crazy!"
Not true. Kenagh are doing phenomenal work at underage given the low numbers in the area in general, if they can keep that going there will have a senior team in 15 or so years. I see where a Wexford club have a motion going to Congress looking for every club to field at least one hurling team from the ages U7 to U10, a nice idea in principle but could not see it working in practice unfortunately."
Kenagh are gonna struggle to keep it going as they have such small numbers."]Yep, I don't see it manifesting into another adult club.
22 years and counting now with just 3 adult hurling clubs!!!"]Have you anything else in that crystal ball, maybe the lotto numbers? No need to be so dismissive of a club trying their hardest to keep the ancient game going. If other clubs with much bigger numbers got their fingers out we'd have more than 3 much sooner!"]It's a forum. All posters are permitted to express their views and their predictions, just as you have done in predicting as far into the future as 15 years from now (!!) via your crystal ball, that Kenagh will have a senior hurling club. I hope they do, but the likelihood is statistically not very strong. That is a numerical assessment coupled with what is now a significant chunk of time without any new clubs. Barking at people online for expressing an opinion you don't agree with, and accusing them of dismissing effort (which I didn't) isn't going to make your points any more valid."]I said "if" they can keep it going at underage the way they are they will have a senior team. They absolutely will, if they can keep what they are doing going. You dismissed them by just saying you don't see their underage manifesting into another club. It's highly likely that if they keep producing underage teams they will sooner or later produce an adult one. If you think they are due to stop producing underage teams you should maybe inform the coaches there to stop wasting any more time!"]In reality, Kenagh have a dozen or so U14s & not a lot coming after that. One man has been doing nearly all the work by himself there so it's difficult to see it developing all the way to senior where you'd need the guts of 30 players to sustain a team for a few years. If even one of their neighbouring clubs (Ardagh-Moydow/Carrickedmond/Ballymahon/Killashee/Cashel/Rathcline) were doing similar work there would definitely be the potential to aim for that goal. However, that drive doesn't seem to be there either locally or coming from Pearse Park.

Meanwhile, there has been great hurling development over the last number of years in counties like Mayo, Sligo, Donegal, Leitrim & Fermanagh.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 09/02/2023 14:54:09    2457483

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I remember in late 1990's there being young hurling teams (Under 11 or 12) in Slashers, Wolfe Tones, Clonguish, Killoe, Shannon Gaels, Ballymahon, Cashel and Stonepark, all involved in competition. There had been a revival in the schools around that time and the Senior hurling championship had 4 clubs then (Clonguish Gaels, Ballymahon Gaels, Slashers Gaels and Wolfe Tones). That was 25 years ago!!! We have regressed in hurling development terms since then, and that generation-long regression (despite the amazing work of a committed core within the county) is precisely why the county manager can't now attract enough players from clubs in Longford. That will not improve unless a massive investment is made in hurling in Longford. Those who are doing their best to keep hurling alive in Longford deserve our utmost respect and admiration. But the overarching problem persists and we shouldn't shy away from talking about it. I'm surprised national media didn't pick up on the managers quote because it is very revealing about the gulf that exists in hurling today.

LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 506 - 10/02/2023 19:50:42    2457741

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Replying To LongfordgaaAbú:  "I remember in late 1990's there being young hurling teams (Under 11 or 12) in Slashers, Wolfe Tones, Clonguish, Killoe, Shannon Gaels, Ballymahon, Cashel and Stonepark, all involved in competition. There had been a revival in the schools around that time and the Senior hurling championship had 4 clubs then (Clonguish Gaels, Ballymahon Gaels, Slashers Gaels and Wolfe Tones). That was 25 years ago!!! We have regressed in hurling development terms since then, and that generation-long regression (despite the amazing work of a committed core within the county) is precisely why the county manager can't now attract enough players from clubs in Longford. That will not improve unless a massive investment is made in hurling in Longford. Those who are doing their best to keep hurling alive in Longford deserve our utmost respect and admiration. But the overarching problem persists and we shouldn't shy away from talking about it. I'm surprised national media didn't pick up on the managers quote because it is very revealing about the gulf that exists in hurling today."
There was no hurling team in Killoe in the late 90s as ourselves and a few of the Killoe boys played with Clonguish. Abbeylara had an under 12 team one of the years around 94.

Spinx (Longford) - Posts: 1259 - 11/02/2023 13:17:05    2457798

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