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Totally agree with you on this one. Younger players these days will look for an out (leave the panel) at every opportunity once things go against them or don't get game time. It's rare that an intercounty player will make the breakthrough in the first year or two, unless you're a superstar. These lads don't realise the effort, stamina and persistence it takes to get to a higher level and drop off the panel before they can realise any potential. If you're not getting your place, work harder!!
TaytoFoley (Leitrim) - Posts: 84 - 30/03/2023 11:31:04 2467745 Link 0 |
Best wishes to Emlyn on his retirement, he has served Leitrim well for many years. JimmyNail (Leitrim) - Posts: 252 - 30/03/2023 11:47:34 2467752 Link 2 |
But nobody knows the personal circumstances of these young players either- maybe they can't afford to commit financially, maybe they are in college and that takes precedence, maybe they have not got time etc etc. It is a massive committment nowadays and it is easy to preach about "younger" lads not committing etc but how many posters here would commit to that level of training etc, especially when you are not getting game time. As a matter of interest who has left the panel that people are talking about?? Leitrimdivide (Leitrim) - Posts: 84 - 30/03/2023 11:49:05 2467755 Link 0 |
"Moran called on a couple of young players to travel down to Wexford the morning of the match to cover a couple of injurys on the bench" Read it again, I never once said Moran called the players on Sunday morning. What I did say was he asked them to travel down Sunday morning seeing as the team was already in Wexford from Saturday afternoon. Leitrim_12 (Leitrim) - Posts: 71 - 30/03/2023 12:03:55 2467760 Link 0 |
Why did he ask them to travel down the morning of the match and not Saturday evening?? who were these players??
Leitrimdivide (Leitrim) - Posts: 84 - 30/03/2023 12:36:55 2467772 Link 0 |
Who are these players so? Cause if you look at the bench that day there were a lot of young players on the panel. From what I hear your story is not the case whatsoever. Accusing this group of players if lacking commitment is laughable when it is known how much they are training and if you have any memory of the past 15 years our players were involved in numerous incidents where men had to be dropped for a 'lack of commitment'. The fact that we are still talking about Emlyn Mulligan after finishing fifth in Division 5 is the problem. Emlyn may have been a Leitrim great if he had not of done his cruciate three times but unfortunately he did. He wouldn't get in the top 10 Leitrim players over the last 15 years due to those injuries. When he did commit to Leitrim football and not America, Sligo, Dublin or even Donegal or Media duties he was gifted and I've no doubt he will do very well in the media in the next while. All the best to him. Back to the current group of players. We can all see the talent that is there but the squad has been so thinned out due to injuries and emigration it is hard to have any depth. Off the top of my head Ryan O'Rourke, Jordan Reynolds, Ciaran Cullen, Shane Moran, and David Bruen, Cillian McGloin and Brendan Flynn all started championship games for Leitrim last year and will not be on the panel this year. Donald Casey's hamstring is also going to curtail him. Add in squad players like Conor Dolan, Oisin McCaffey, Fergal McTague and Dean McGovern, Riordan O'Rourke, Conor Cullen, Aaron Hoare who are all gone aswell. You can even add in Jack Gilheany who they couldn't convince too commit and who would start for us. Thats a serious turnover of players in a small county. Add in the fact then that Moran/Sloan have not brought a defined way of playing and have been poor in decision making when it comes to team selection and in game substitutions and you can see why we are finishing 5th in Division four. If we get out of Gaelic Park it will be impressive. It is fair to say we are stronger and have a better base level of S&C and talent now then 4 years ago which should stand to us in New York. GreenMan94 (Leitrim) - Posts: 29 - 30/03/2023 12:54:16 2467781 Link 0 |
Hold on a minute and I'll ask Moran for a copy of the transcript of each of the calls. Using 1 or 2 brain cells, I would suggest the call was made late Saturday evening and maybe Moran gave them the options to travel down Saturday evening. When the players travelled down isn't really the point, the point is they refused the call while a player like Mulligan accepted it. Leitrim_12 (Leitrim) - Posts: 71 - 30/03/2023 13:12:18 2467787 Link 0 |
It would have been helpful if you had stated that in the first place however my point still stands. Shur look if Moran rang me on Saturday night I'd probably go down to warm the bench but you can't assume or expect others could at such late notice. And surely he knew before leaving Saturday morning that there might be an issue before people set on their journey. Not much good ringing a lad on Saturday evening to join up with the team having been told earlier in the week you're not going. The days of dying for your county are gone...
Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1055 - 30/03/2023 13:23:33 2467793 Link 1 |
when you are explaining you are losing
Leitrimdivide (Leitrim) - Posts: 84 - 30/03/2023 13:43:11 2467798 Link 1 |
Great Post Leitrim1234. Spot on.
3rdmidfielder (Australia) - Posts: 351 - 30/03/2023 14:06:34 2467814 Link 1 |
Great idea re: winners div 4 and div 3 playing New York and London. Leitrim have struggled big time in New York before and I'm sure they target the years they play us and Sligo. They have some quality players this year, I'd be worried tbh.
3rdmidfielder (Australia) - Posts: 351 - 30/03/2023 14:22:00 2467820 Link 0 |
Indeed..not all were fans off the field..ill say no more..
Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1037 - 30/03/2023 18:25:59 2467881 Link 0 |
Who were these players please??
Leitrimdivide (Leitrim) - Posts: 84 - 31/03/2023 10:00:28 2467919 Link 0 |
Mulligan accepted it because he thought he was going to get a league medal. No chance of anything else now so he walks away again.
Thejampot (Leitrim) - Posts: 351 - 31/03/2023 13:12:58 2467968 Link 0 |
I am saddened to come on this forum and to have to read the begrudgery and moaning about named players ,management etc. You come across as sad people who are constantly looking for negatives. The Leitrim Supporters I know are the very opposite of some of the whingers on this site. Emlyn Mulligan and all the brave players who have given years of service to Leitrim are held in the highest esteem by genuine supporters. joeman123 (Leitrim) - Posts: 517 - 31/03/2023 15:33:30 2468016 Link 0 |
What did I say that wasn't true ?.
Thejampot (Leitrim) - Posts: 351 - 31/03/2023 16:36:43 2468030 Link 0 |
I'm not Emlyn's number one fan but over the last 17 years he represented Leitrim in 13/14 seasons (missed a few through injury I believe) so he has to commended for that. And while I think he was overrated on a national level he was definitely one of Leitrim's best players for most of them seasons. He's shown considerable commitment and if every player in the county showed the same as him for the last decade and a half then we would be at a higher level than we currently are. To say that there is no chance of a medal is wide of the mark as well. We could very well end up in the TC this year and while we would only have an outside chance of winning it that's what the team should be aiming for…if of course we fail to make the Connacht final. For almost every year that Emlyn did play with Leitrim the chance of silverware was very slim, but he still gave it everything, so to say that when he retires is very unfair. New&Improved (Leitrim) - Posts: 35 - 01/04/2023 13:41:15 2468123 Link 2 |
Below is a team off the top of my head of 15 lads that either through injury, travels or not committing aren't playing for Leitrim. This team would beat NY next weekend and definitely would put it up to our current starting 15 if not beat them too. Please feel free to add in lads I haven't thought of because I definitely have left some out. southleitrim_mafia (Leitrim) - Posts: 114 - 02/04/2023 18:09:35 2468326 Link 0 |
Why do people always get carried away with players who are not around or not available??
eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1978 - 02/04/2023 19:20:04 2468364 Link 0 |
Its a person's choice whether they wish to discuss an issue or not. If it bothers you so much feel free to leave our page or just don't comment. Its quite simple really. You have that choice.
Leitrimdivide (Leitrim) - Posts: 84 - 02/04/2023 20:18:03 2468391 Link 0 |