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Replying To Square_B:  "Very interesting analysis.... and hard to disagree with a lot of it. The fact we went one point up with minutes to go shows what we are capable of as a team but it masks all the other issues going on. And then the take away at the end of the game from the Media was about Moran giving out about scheduling.... a funny thing to come out with at the end of the game as I haven't heard him mention it all season... this is what he said...

"I would say is that the scheduling is an absolute joke. It actually helps us that we didn't win, in terms of scheduling for New York. We really wanted to win because we were prioritising the league, maybe a bit more so than the New York trip."

With all these issues going on I fear for us in New York. I really do."
New York could've beaten us last year. They had their chances. Only for Carrabine was untouchable with his pace on the astro pitch then we would have lost. They're not bad, a fast attacking team and physical in the tackle. A team that can't be looked past. At least for us we have played London and have video footage of them playing competitive games. It's a shot in the dark against New York. Nobody knows what they're going to come out with. A slight worry for Leitrim is New York play and train on the astro turf. They are used to the pace and intensity of it. Compared to winter/early spring on heavy pitches in Ireland. It definitely affected us last year. If your lads aren't in prime condition then it's a definite factor that could lead to a slip up. For example New York always give teams a hard contest over there on artificial surfaces, but last year against Offaly didn't play good at all in the every day Irish conditions in Tullamore.
I fully expect Leitrim to win but I would be cautious.

Sligobuck21 (Sligo) - Posts: 114 - 29/03/2023 12:44:17    2467553

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Replying To Leitrim1234:  "It's taken a few days for that performance and result to sink in.

The result itself is so so disappointing. With 5 minutes left ourselves and Laois were being promoted but the reality of it is when the game finished we were in 5th place in division four. A bottom half team in the weakest division. The players have set to high of a standard in the last few years to hide from that fact. If that was any other management team there would be serious questions being asked.


The performance itself was so blunt and really poor. If we are being honest Sligo were at least a 6 point better team then us. It would have been a lovely daylight robbery if they won. We were so deep and invited Sligo onto us and went out of the game after the first 10 minutes. We rallied really well when it looked as if there was nothing to play for but in reality their was no plan as to what we were doing. It was all guts at hearts from the lads and a fantastic performance from Tom Prior that got us back into the game.

I see a poster is getting abuse for saying Keith doesn't perform when it matters. If we just take this game in isolation he was roasted.
Have a watch of this video https://twitter.com/NoPlanBGAA/status/1640379215982874628.
I would say Keith won't mind admitting that himself. It can happen to any player on any day. The problem is we have had no strategy whatsoever all year apart from hoping that Beirne kicks 10 points a game. You might get away with that against poor teams but against half decent opposition it just won't happen.


Paul Keaney isn't ready or conditioned enough to play at midfield on a county team just yet. I thought he should have been on the 40. But taking him and Plunkett off with 15 minutes left was lunacy and made me question Morans decision making once again. We had no shooters left on the field when it mattered and it meant Sligo could crowd Beirne out. We all know Plunkett and Keaney have the ability to kick long range scores and draw the opposition out. Which would have created space for our inside forwards.

Starting Domhnail Flynn in our half back was a nightmare waiting to happen and it's exactly what occurred. Trying to copy what Mayo are doing with Conor Loftus was a lazy strategy.

Fair play to Nevin O'Donnell for keeping us in the game with the two superb saves he made but his kickouts along with Beirne being out of the game were the main reason we lost the game. It was like watching Leitrim in the 90s where every kickout would be ballooned upon the great Mickey Quinn. Pearce Dolan (and Plunkett in the first half) were having to jump against two men every time and was completely gassed by the end of the game. I'm not sure if we went short once?

Paddy Maguire was exceptional again but I do think we got it wrong and he should have been our man marker closest to our goals. Diffley was roasted and doesn't have the power to compete yet. He was brushed aside at times.

The referee was a disgrace I thought at significant moments as well which was the most frustrating thing.

From what I know there has been no falling our with Ryan O'Rourke but after NYC he will not be a part of the panel along with a few other squad players. Its completely understandable. He can't get his body right to play and with the management Fenagh have in place there is now real pressure to win the club championship.

New York have Quinlivan from Tipp and Gavin O'Brien from Kerry and it was interesting to see some of their management team in the Pairc at the weekend."
No plan then no plan b is an admission that there was a plan. Simply it was to get Keith on the ball as much as possible. Then the introduction of Jack along with Tom and Barry brought a different route to goals (one that worked). Keaney isn't a midfielder, his passing is his strength, pace already seems to be lacking (at 21 bit early to have disappeared) but agree the 40 would be best place to utilise his passing and shooting. Seeing Mark go off in every game is a body blow. Never have I seen him in better shape and working as hard and no one needs convincing on his skill level.
Domhnall's selection is hard to understand. Impact sub I can understand but starting I am not sure. Ryan would be huge addition. Darragh Rooney in this campaign has shown glimpses of a return to the form of his debut season. Consistency, doing it 2 or 3 games in a row now will be what he is measured on. He has something different than all those around him.
Conor Farrell's mobility around the field might be questionable but his power and commitment can't be. Thought he did some great things last Sunday. Certainly was the best from the Co Champions stable. Diffley got skinning but its been a while since that has happened to him and always seems to learn from bad outings. Adam Reynolds seem to have an injury so probably unfair to question him.
NY on Sat week won't be easy. Need to stay solid early on as they will throw everything at Leitrim. You'd hope the advantage of 8 games together will be enough to see us get over them. But I am quietly optimistic unlike what I was 5 years ago.

bananapublican (Leitrim) - Posts: 878 - 29/03/2023 13:55:57    2467572

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I see Mulligan has left again!!

Leitrimdivide (Leitrim) - Posts: 84 - 29/03/2023 15:53:03    2467625

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Any chance that leitrimman1994 will be man or woman enough to post up an apology for that silly remark about Keith Beirne?

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3347 - 29/03/2023 16:31:30    2467638

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Replying To Leitrimdivide:  "I see Mulligan has left again!!"
Retired, there is abit of a difference. Fair play to him great servant to Leitrim football. I heard a story before Wexford game that Moran called on a couple of young players to travel down to Wexford the morning of the match to cover a couple of injurys on the bench. Both players refused without giving any genuine reason. Moran called on Mulligan who answered the call and travelled down the morning of the game. You cannot bate that kind of commitment. A few of the younger players could learn a thing or 2 from the older heads in the squad. Mulligan will be missed and arguably will down as one of Leitrim finest footballers

Leitrim_12 (Leitrim) - Posts: 63 - 29/03/2023 18:31:45    2467674

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Replying To Sligobuck21:  "New York could've beaten us last year. They had their chances. Only for Carrabine was untouchable with his pace on the astro pitch then we would have lost. They're not bad, a fast attacking team and physical in the tackle. A team that can't be looked past. At least for us we have played London and have video footage of them playing competitive games. It's a shot in the dark against New York. Nobody knows what they're going to come out with. A slight worry for Leitrim is New York play and train on the astro turf. They are used to the pace and intensity of it. Compared to winter/early spring on heavy pitches in Ireland. It definitely affected us last year. If your lads aren't in prime condition then it's a definite factor that could lead to a slip up. For example New York always give teams a hard contest over there on artificial surfaces, but last year against Offaly didn't play good at all in the every day Irish conditions in Tullamore.
I fully expect Leitrim to win but I would be cautious."
Please, as pointed out the other day, NY have never won an intercounty game, they struggle against half decent club teams from Mayo and Galway. They have not played a game against any county in a year. Ref's give them them everything in the first half of these games to try and keep a small bit of interest in it, with the score line not truly reflecting the gulf between the teams. NY are 4/1 which is the price of no hopers. Outside of the great fundraising, the fixture is a Humbug and a major distraction for teams with expectations of having a long summer. For years I have been saying the winners of division 4 should play NY and the Div 3 winners should play London.

martinjoe (Mayo) - Posts: 499 - 29/03/2023 18:32:07    2467675

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Replying To Leitrimdivide:  "I see Mulligan has left again!!"
That's a big blow for yous especially coming into the championship

Inatfullforward (Longford) - Posts: 93 - 29/03/2023 19:59:50    2467690

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Want to wish Emlyn Mulligan all the best in his retirement, he was a good player but I wouldn't call him a "legend" he wasn't in the same bracket as Michael McGuinness,John McKeon or Declan Maxwell in my opinion

Weaternpro (Leitrim) - Posts: 47 - 29/03/2023 21:04:21    2467698

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M Quinlivan played for Clonmel at the weekend apparently so one would wonder if he's actually amongst the NY ranks. Seems to be a lot of hearsay about it.

Dodgy_Pass (Leitrim) - Posts: 374 - 29/03/2023 21:10:03    2467700

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Replying To Leitrimdivide:  "I see Mulligan has left again!!"
How many times is that now that's he walked in the middle of a campaign. Hopefully this will be the last time.

Thejampot (Leitrim) - Posts: 255 - 30/03/2023 09:24:52    2467709

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Replying To Inatfullforward:  "That's a big blow for yous especially coming into the championship"
No it is most certainly is not.

Leitrimdivide (Leitrim) - Posts: 84 - 30/03/2023 10:01:28    2467714

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Replying To Thejampot:  "How many times is that now that's he walked in the middle of a campaign. Hopefully this will be the last time."
You and me both

Leitrimdivide (Leitrim) - Posts: 84 - 30/03/2023 10:01:56    2467715

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Replying To martinjoe:  "Please, as pointed out the other day, NY have never won an intercounty game, they struggle against half decent club teams from Mayo and Galway. They have not played a game against any county in a year. Ref's give them them everything in the first half of these games to try and keep a small bit of interest in it, with the score line not truly reflecting the gulf between the teams. NY are 4/1 which is the price of no hopers. Outside of the great fundraising, the fixture is a Humbug and a major distraction for teams with expectations of having a long summer. For years I have been saying the winners of division 4 should play NY and the Div 3 winners should play London."
I am stunned that the GAA have not acted on this seeing as it was you who suggested it.

Leitrimdivide (Leitrim) - Posts: 84 - 30/03/2023 10:07:19    2467716

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Replying To Leitrim_12:  "Retired, there is abit of a difference. Fair play to him great servant to Leitrim football. I heard a story before Wexford game that Moran called on a couple of young players to travel down to Wexford the morning of the match to cover a couple of injurys on the bench. Both players refused without giving any genuine reason. Moran called on Mulligan who answered the call and travelled down the morning of the game. You cannot bate that kind of commitment. A few of the younger players could learn a thing or 2 from the older heads in the squad. Mulligan will be missed and arguably will down as one of Leitrim finest footballers"
Our county could do with a few lads like that at the minute.

MickyThePost (Donegal) - Posts: 26 - 30/03/2023 10:10:41    2467719

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Replying To Leitrim_12:  "Retired, there is abit of a difference. Fair play to him great servant to Leitrim football. I heard a story before Wexford game that Moran called on a couple of young players to travel down to Wexford the morning of the match to cover a couple of injurys on the bench. Both players refused without giving any genuine reason. Moran called on Mulligan who answered the call and travelled down the morning of the game. You cannot bate that kind of commitment. A few of the younger players could learn a thing or 2 from the older heads in the squad. Mulligan will be missed and arguably will down as one of Leitrim finest footballers"
I think that sounds like a fairytale- so Moran only found out about injuries on the morning of the game and had to ring around to lads on the morning of the game?? Sounds like what a junior team would do not an intercounty senior set up so I think that story is fanciful to put it mildly.

Leitrimdivide (Leitrim) - Posts: 84 - 30/03/2023 10:23:44    2467729

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Replying To Leitrim_12:  "Retired, there is abit of a difference. Fair play to him great servant to Leitrim football. I heard a story before Wexford game that Moran called on a couple of young players to travel down to Wexford the morning of the match to cover a couple of injurys on the bench. Both players refused without giving any genuine reason. Moran called on Mulligan who answered the call and travelled down the morning of the game. You cannot bate that kind of commitment. A few of the younger players could learn a thing or 2 from the older heads in the squad. Mulligan will be missed and arguably will down as one of Leitrim finest footballers"
The morning of the match? Assuming this did happen I wouldn't blame them. In all fairness it's a bit disrespectful calling on lads to travel to Wexford with hours notice. That should have been all sorted out by Friday evening / Saturday morning latest. I understand people can get sick at short notice but what are the chances in fairness? Slim I would say.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 844 - 30/03/2023 10:33:36    2467733

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Replying To Square_B:  "The morning of the match? Assuming this did happen I wouldn't blame them. In all fairness it's a bit disrespectful calling on lads to travel to Wexford with hours notice. That should have been all sorted out by Friday evening / Saturday morning latest. I understand people can get sick at short notice but what are the chances in fairness? Slim I would say."
I agree- I posted a similar message here saying it sounded like a fairytale and something from a junior team set up. I think maybe it was a dream??

Leitrimdivide (Leitrim) - Posts: 84 - 30/03/2023 11:06:38    2467738

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Replying To Square_B:  "The morning of the match? Assuming this did happen I wouldn't blame them. In all fairness it's a bit disrespectful calling on lads to travel to Wexford with hours notice. That should have been all sorted out by Friday evening / Saturday morning latest. I understand people can get sick at short notice but what are the chances in fairness? Slim I would say."
They got the call Saturday evening seemingly, the same as Mulligan did after the team had travelled down. Late withdrawal happen in all sports and with all teams. Funny how people were bashing Mulligan for turning up and playing for his county over the last few weeks but stand up for younger players who don't bother. Speak alot really

Leitrim_12 (Leitrim) - Posts: 63 - 30/03/2023 11:11:23    2467739

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Replying To Leitrim_12:  "They got the call Saturday evening seemingly, the same as Mulligan did after the team had travelled down. Late withdrawal happen in all sports and with all teams. Funny how people were bashing Mulligan for turning up and playing for his county over the last few weeks but stand up for younger players who don't bother. Speak alot really"
You said in your original post it was the morning of the match?? The match was on Sunday so which is it? Saturday or Sunday?

Leitrimdivide (Leitrim) - Posts: 84 - 30/03/2023 11:23:32    2467742

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Replying To Square_B:  "The morning of the match? Assuming this did happen I wouldn't blame them. In all fairness it's a bit disrespectful calling on lads to travel to Wexford with hours notice. That should have been all sorted out by Friday evening / Saturday morning latest. I understand people can get sick at short notice but what are the chances in fairness? Slim I would say."
I think you have misread the comment. Moran called the players up - to travel with the team to Wexford on the morning of the game. I highly doubt he called them that morning. Younger Leitrim players seem to think they have some entitlement to be starting with the county team in their first year or two. It seems to be a generational thing with young lads these days and parents do not help it, by telling them that they are better than they are and not pushing them to work harder. Unless young county players are willing to put a proper shift for minimum 3 years, they will not be at the level they need to be at. That's a major issue in Leitrim in my opinion.

TaytoFoley (Leitrim) - Posts: 83 - 30/03/2023 11:25:07    2467744

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