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Replying To The_analyser:  "1-20,1-20 and 2-16 we scored against Galway this year and today 0-20 enough for Kerry to win by 4. Needlessly to say our defence and huge scores conceded requires the most work."
As has been the case since......early 90s!

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 371 - 24/07/2022 20:58:33    2434063

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I know we should have done better defensively but we weren't that far behind Galway and small margins win matches. I think some some of the criticism of AC is over the top. Every great team needs a great player and we don't have a Dermot Early or Shane Walsh.

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 225 - 24/07/2022 21:39:21    2434075

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Replying To MachaireConnacht:  "I know we should have done better defensively but we weren't that far behind Galway and small margins win matches. I think some some of the criticism of AC is over the top. Every great team needs a great player and we don't have a Dermot Early or Shane Walsh."
Come on we were 9/10 points down at one stage against Galway. Yes the lads never gave up and kept fighting. We have been conceding big scores all year. Even during the league very average teams were walking through us. If we don't cop on and sort out the big issues in our team then we will get an awful kicking back down to division 2 next year. Cunningham needs to take a very close look at what Joyce and O'Connor have done this year with bringing in a top top defensive coach that's proven. We have good forwards on their day but to many times our big players go missing. Cunningham has lots of work to do if he stays on but he knows if he fails again next year he is gone.

dave1988 (Roscommon) - Posts: 835 - 25/07/2022 11:28:52    2434156

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Now that the county season is over, would anyone like to have a go at completing the following for county Roscommon. Could we keep it positive folks as all of the players gave their all for Roscommon this year, and some were obviously more successful than others.

Player of the Year:
Gold:
Silver:
Bronze

Most Improved Player:

Team Performance of the Year:

Goal of the Year:

Point of the Year:

Player who perhaps deserved more game time:

Club Player to keep an eye on during the club championship:

letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 77 - 25/07/2022 11:30:28    2434158

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Replying To letsgetgoing:  "Now that the county season is over, would anyone like to have a go at completing the following for county Roscommon. Could we keep it positive folks as all of the players gave their all for Roscommon this year, and some were obviously more successful than others.

Player of the Year:
Gold:
Silver:
Bronze

Most Improved Player:

Team Performance of the Year:

Goal of the Year:

Point of the Year:

Player who perhaps deserved more game time:

Club Player to keep an eye on during the club championship:"
Player of the Year: Ultan Harney

Most Improved Player: ultan Harney a year without injury

Team Performance of the Year: Galway league final

Goal of the Year: Diarmuid Murtagh League Final

Player who perhaps deserved more game time: Eoin Mccormack

Club Player to keep an eye on during the club championship: Ciaran Lawless Oran

Tarismelting22 (Roscommon) - Posts: 717 - 25/07/2022 12:28:34    2434190

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Player of year
Gold Ultan
Silver Lavin
Bronze McCormack
Most improved - McKeon
Goal of year Diarmuid in League Final

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 371 - 25/07/2022 12:40:43    2434201

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Replying To MachaireConnacht:  "I know we should have done better defensively but we weren't that far behind Galway and small margins win matches. I think some some of the criticism of AC is over the top. Every great team needs a great player and we don't have a Dermot Early or Shane Walsh."
We are miles off that Galway team, let's be honest. Based on performances this year only Ciarain Murtagh and Ultan Harney would have any chance of making their starting fifteen.

Primrose_and_blue (Roscommon) - Posts: 18 - 26/07/2022 12:05:58    2434510

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Replying To letsgetgoing:  "Now that the county season is over, would anyone like to have a go at completing the following for county Roscommon. Could we keep it positive folks as all of the players gave their all for Roscommon this year, and some were obviously more successful than others.

Player of the Year:
Gold:
Silver:
Bronze

Most Improved Player:

Team Performance of the Year:

Goal of the Year:

Point of the Year:

Player who perhaps deserved more game time:

Club Player to keep an eye on during the club championship:"
Player of the year:
Gold: Ultan Harney
Silver: Ciarain Murtagh
Bronze: Eddie Nolan

Most Improved player: Richard Hughes

Team performance of the year: Galway league final
Goal of the year: Diarmuid Murtagh v Galway
Point of the year: Cian McKeon first half v Down

Player who deserved more game time: Diarmuid Murtagh

Player to keep an eye on in club championship: Daire Cregg (Boyle)

Primrose_and_blue (Roscommon) - Posts: 18 - 26/07/2022 12:18:10    2434519

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Replying To dave1988:  "Come on we were 9/10 points down at one stage against Galway. Yes the lads never gave up and kept fighting. We have been conceding big scores all year. Even during the league very average teams were walking through us. If we don't cop on and sort out the big issues in our team then we will get an awful kicking back down to division 2 next year. Cunningham needs to take a very close look at what Joyce and O'Connor have done this year with bringing in a top top defensive coach that's proven. We have good forwards on their day but to many times our big players go missing. Cunningham has lots of work to do if he stays on but he knows if he fails again next year he is gone."
True and I agree we were far too easy to play through but we had a good few chances early in that game that we missed through lack of composure. I'm not saying we would have won but that sucked life out of us while they opened up a gap which played perfectly into their style of play.

I can't remember what game it was, but a few years ago Brolly was analysing Roscommon misses in a Connacht championship game, I think it actually was our 2018 defeat to Galway in the Hyde. Roscommon got into good scoring positions but we missed chances either by making the wrong pass or rushing shots. Brolly commented that there was nearly too much emotion in Roscommon's play. A lot of the time, especially in big games it seems like the occassion gets to us. I think we were being tipped to win that game to get back to back Connachts with the game on home soil. Some of our scoring attemps in Salthill this year in the first half were like that and some in the first half against Clare as well. We definitely need some defensive expertise in the coaching team but we also need something on the sports psychology end of things as well. Galway, Derry and Armagh would have believed they could beat anybody they met in Croke Park this year, Roscommon just don't have that same belief.

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 225 - 26/07/2022 14:04:44    2434569

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Replying To letsgetgoing:  "Now that the county season is over, would anyone like to have a go at completing the following for county Roscommon. Could we keep it positive folks as all of the players gave their all for Roscommon this year, and some were obviously more successful than others.

Player of the Year:
Gold:
Silver:
Bronze

Most Improved Player:

Team Performance of the Year:

Goal of the Year:

Point of the Year:

Player who perhaps deserved more game time:

Club Player to keep an eye on during the club championship:"
Player of the Year:
Gold: Ultan Harney
Silver: Ciaran Murtagh
Bronze: Colm Lavin

Most Improved Player: Cian McKeon

Team Performance of the Year: v Galway league final

Goal of the Year: D Murtagh league final

Point of the Year: Cian McKeon v Clare first half in Croker although some of C Murtaghs that day were A1 as well.

Player who perhaps deserved more game time: D Murtagh

Club Player to keep an eye on during the club championship: Colin Walsh

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 225 - 26/07/2022 14:23:23    2434584

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Player of the year:
Gold: Ultan Harney (played all 13 games showed what he's capable of with a injury free run) candidate to be captain in 2023?

Silver: Eoin McCormack (fine debut season featured in 12 of our 13 games 11 starts not sure why he didn't play in the Connacht final

Bronze: Richard Hughes offered that extra bit of pace out of defence had a good league campaign and then unfortunately got injured

Most Improved player: Colm Lavin his best year in a Roscommon Jersey, new goalkeeping coach helped. Would still like to see Carroll get more game time next year.

Team performance of the year: Galway league final no real debate there

Goal of the year: Diarmuid Murtagh v Galway one of the goals of the year from any team

Point of the year: Keith Doyle v Derry

Player who deserved more game time: Keith Doyle

Player to keep an eye on in club championship: Ben O'Carroll

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3202 - 26/07/2022 14:27:43    2434586

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Replying To The_analyser:  "Player of the year:
Gold: Ultan Harney (played all 13 games showed what he's capable of with a injury free run) candidate to be captain in 2023?

Silver: Eoin McCormack (fine debut season featured in 12 of our 13 games 11 starts not sure why he didn't play in the Connacht final

Bronze: Richard Hughes offered that extra bit of pace out of defence had a good league campaign and then unfortunately got injured

Most Improved player: Colm Lavin his best year in a Roscommon Jersey, new goalkeeping coach helped. Would still like to see Carroll get more game time next year.

Team performance of the year: Galway league final no real debate there

Goal of the year: Diarmuid Murtagh v Galway one of the goals of the year from any team

Point of the year: Keith Doyle v Derry

Player who deserved more game time: Keith Doyle

Player to keep an eye on in club championship: Ben O'Carroll"
Manager of the year -- our own AC, with his county winning the Connacht title, or was it Henry, with his beloved KK winning Leinster?

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 2698 - 26/07/2022 14:41:03    2434593

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "Manager of the year -- our own AC, with his county winning the Connacht title, or was it Henry, with his beloved KK winning Leinster?"
Clown .

moros (Roscommon) - Posts: 1047 - 26/07/2022 16:47:39    2434645

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Replying To Primrose_and_blue:  "We are miles off that Galway team, let's be honest. Based on performances this year only Ciarain Murtagh and Ultan Harney would have any chance of making their starting fifteen."
We shouldn't be miles off Galway. That's for sure. Galway had 1 Forward, 1 Midfielder, a couple of good defenders, a dodgy goalie and no subs of worth last Sunday. Galway are beatable and indeed there's no great team around at the moment. Kerry are ordinary enough themselves without David Clifford. Roscommon are underachieving with what we have. The team's progress has stalled. That's why a change is needed before opportunity passes a lot of these players by.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 1765 - 26/07/2022 16:48:15    2434647

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "Manager of the year -- our own AC, with his county winning the Connacht title, or was it Henry, with his beloved KK winning Leinster?"
Have no time for trolls. Don't quote me again

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3202 - 26/07/2022 16:50:35    2434649

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Replying To The_analyser:  "Have no time for trolls. Don't quote me again"
No problem. I won't.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 2698 - 26/07/2022 17:19:15    2434664

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Replying To The_analyser:  "Player of the year:
Gold: Ultan Harney (played all 13 games showed what he's capable of with a injury free run) candidate to be captain in 2023?

Silver: Eoin McCormack (fine debut season featured in 12 of our 13 games 11 starts not sure why he didn't play in the Connacht final

Bronze: Richard Hughes offered that extra bit of pace out of defence had a good league campaign and then unfortunately got injured

Most Improved player: Colm Lavin his best year in a Roscommon Jersey, new goalkeeping coach helped. Would still like to see Carroll get more game time next year.

Team performance of the year: Galway league final no real debate there

Goal of the year: Diarmuid Murtagh v Galway one of the goals of the year from any team

Point of the year: Keith Doyle v Derry

Player who deserved more game time: Keith Doyle

Player to keep an eye on in club championship: Ben O'Carroll"
I was going to give Lavin most improved, maybe that was better category. Actually some of Keith Doyles points in general were brilliant.

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 225 - 26/07/2022 18:18:17    2434678

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Replying To endgame:  "We shouldn't be miles off Galway. That's for sure. Galway had 1 Forward, 1 Midfielder, a couple of good defenders, a dodgy goalie and no subs of worth last Sunday. Galway are beatable and indeed there's no great team around at the moment. Kerry are ordinary enough themselves without David Clifford. Roscommon are underachieving with what we have. The team's progress has stalled. That's why a change is needed before opportunity passes a lot of these players by."
Galway have more than one forward as Roscommon found out but most of them excel when given room to cause damage, Kerry did not give that and while Shane Walsh scored high a number of his scores was unmarkable.

Best part of Kerry is their defence they are the bench mark now for everyone and will be the team to beat in 2023. What they conceded in the league and championship this year 0-13,0-11,0-7,1-12,0-14,0-13,1-15,0-13,0-11,0-8,0-13,1-13,0-16 which I think shows the standard of the top team in Ireland.

Roscommon aren't underachieving at the other end of the field the scores they produced in a number of games was as high as Kerry and Dublin would score but until things are sorted out defensively no progress will be made regardless of manager.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 2902 - 26/07/2022 18:28:52    2434680

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Replying To Gaa_lover:  "Galway have more than one forward as Roscommon found out but most of them excel when given room to cause damage, Kerry did not give that and while Shane Walsh scored high a number of his scores was unmarkable.

Best part of Kerry is their defence they are the bench mark now for everyone and will be the team to beat in 2023. What they conceded in the league and championship this year 0-13,0-11,0-7,1-12,0-14,0-13,1-15,0-13,0-11,0-8,0-13,1-13,0-16 which I think shows the standard of the top team in Ireland.

Roscommon aren't underachieving at the other end of the field the scores they produced in a number of games was as high as Kerry and Dublin would score but until things are sorted out defensively no progress will be made regardless of manager."
3 requirements
Close marking
Stop letting opponent with ball saunter through unchallenged
Fast "transition". No more Pearses sideways and backwards walking pace handball.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 371 - 27/07/2022 11:05:44    2434794

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "3 requirements
Close marking
Stop letting opponent with ball saunter through unchallenged
Fast "transition". No more Pearses sideways and backwards walking pace handball."
We need a massive mentality change to. Once every so often we put in a 70 minute performance with aggression and intensity but 90% of the time we are flakey and only play good hard football for 15/20 minutes a game. After the Clare game flakey was the word I heard everyone call us. That's on the players themselves to get right also.

dave1988 (Roscommon) - Posts: 835 - 27/07/2022 12:44:17    2434838

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