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What is wrong with us in first halves? Were our own worst enemy today. How many times do we turn over ball in our backline and then bring it at snails pace out of defence only for us then to lose the ball and concede. Great heart in the second half but Mayo could have had at least one more goal. Mayo ahead of us physically and more sharper. The worrying thing is Mayo rested a number of players and whipped us in that first half. We were pretty much full tilt. Great experience for the young lads. It was a tough day for some of the young lads but that's what they need. Some of our experienced players making poor decisions and wild kicking. Roscommon are far too predictable to play against at this level. MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 771 - 05/03/2023 21:12:02 2462141 Link 1 |
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People try to use logic about these games. worple (Roscommon) - Posts: 339 - 05/03/2023 21:27:54 2462148 Link 1 |
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I think yesterday has answered alot of questions for us going forward: Tarismelting22 (Roscommon) - Posts: 760 - 06/03/2023 09:04:22 2462176 Link 0 |
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You are correct on the goalie. I think Colin Walsh looked good in parts and probably needs more games and more S and C. I would say there are still too many Ros players behind Mayo in conditioning. We really missed the power and athleticism of Harney at midfield yesterday and even Nolan. Our transition from defence to attack is too slow and when we lose the ball it puts more uneccessary pressure on our defence. It almost seems like in the first half's against Mayo, Armagh and Monaghan the team is directed to bring it slow out of defence. Could this be thing? In some ways it looks like we try to save energy in the first half and then up the intensity in the second. Any word on Conor Dalys injury? Couldn't see what happened up that end. I was delighted for Conor Cox, he needed that confidence boosting goal and hopefully he can come back to his best. MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 771 - 06/03/2023 11:46:22 2462223 Link 0 |
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Do you not think strategy was at play with change of goalkeeper for this game? The kick-outs were always going to be an issue against a more physical side like Mayo regardless of who was the goalkeeper. What do you think the reason was for the change of keeper for this game? You have answered part of the question with there being a major issue at midfield. And with that issue at play it made it harder for Colm to get the kick outs right?
rosco7 (Roscommon) - Posts: 44 - 06/03/2023 11:52:29 2462226 Link 0 |
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Monaghan tough to beat in Clones. They aren't great travellers and were without McCarron yesterday probably the main player/forward that won the match for Monaghan against Roscommon.
Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3338 - 06/03/2023 11:59:32 2462231 Link 0 |
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Obviously a disappointing result, but wouldn't be to dishearted. its obvious Mayo are operating at championship peace at the moment. i really hope the lads had a tough training session it clear that a number of lads are not up to div 1 standard. Don't understand why Donie Smith wasn't brought on sooner. hontherossie (Roscommon) - Posts: 99 - 06/03/2023 12:07:42 2462238 Link 0 |
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Do you think maybe he went with Colm as he expected O Shea to be on the edge of the square and have a lot of aerial stuff to deal with and went with Colms physical presence? Or was it just a case of giving him some game time?He is a decent keeper but his kickouts are not good. He is very slow to get set up. Even going short, he put one out high towards the terrace near the end of the game and Mayo won it and got a point from it. When a team press Roscommon kickout we are always going to struggle, regardless who is in goals. Carroll is a better footballer and far more comfortable on the ball.
D.Hyde (Roscommon) - Posts: 143 - 06/03/2023 13:33:43 2462273 Link 0 |
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the fact mcstay made 5 changes to team before through in shows he wasnt over worried about result score line was flatering for roscommon mayo had well eased of the gas they had enough done pity enda Smith will miss next game or 2 for his stamping no need for it mayo_123 (Mayo) - Posts: 240 - 06/03/2023 13:55:30 2462288 Link 0 |
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Smith very lucky to stay on field after stamp on M Ruane on the ground, should have been Red. jacktheboy (Donegal) - Posts: 404 - 06/03/2023 14:06:30 2462297 Link 0 |
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Time to extend the black card to players who won't give up the ball when it's a free against them or block a man trying to take a quick free. Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1399 - 06/03/2023 14:19:35 2462307 Link 0 |
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Do you think they are holding back anything in games? Or is that wishful thinking? Davy Burke said after the Armagh game that championship training starts now.
MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 771 - 06/03/2023 14:21:33 2462308 Link 0 |
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Conor Daly remained at full back yesterday, Walsh was given a start to drop back on double on up Aidan O'Shea. Outside of his wayward pass that led to goal he had a decent showing for his first league start. Midfield is still very much work in progress the pairing is totally new from arguably our strongest line last year of Ultan harney,Eddie Nolan. Accuracy on our kickouts and better movement with better options for the keeper is required. Watching the match yesterday in the Hyde i thought Mayo had created much more chances than us as it turns out having watched it a second time it was 24 to 23 in shots on goal in favour of Mayo. I seen no sign watching it twice whereby Mayo eased off 2nd half. They scored 1-6 in the 2nd half (which includes a gift of goal) the other two chances they had in that half was a goal chance that came off the bar (our defence went AWOL) and wide kicked in the 4th minute of injury. The league is competition to make changes unless you are a new manager looking for a settled team and let certain players play themselves out of the championship team. Of the changes Mayo made they brought Cillian O'Connor,Paddy Durcan and Tommy Conroy who certainly didn't weaken their team and all three are possible starters in our championship game in April. Rory Byrne for Ruane for a like for like replacement and Sam Callinan replaced Hession who i believe picked up an injury against Tyrone. Yes Mayo probably should have won by a greater margin but that's ignoring the fact that Roscommon didn't start playing until the 20 minutes into the contest and with the last kick of the game could easily have won the game by a point. The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3742 - 06/03/2023 14:41:18 2462320 Link 1 |
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TV camera angle was misleading, the Mayo Player retained the ball and Enda Smith kicked down on ball as it came from under him. He never touched the player on ground. Ref was right beside the incident.
Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3338 - 06/03/2023 14:54:26 2462326 Link 1 |
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i am hoping this was the case, these players don't become poor overnight
hontherossie (Roscommon) - Posts: 99 - 06/03/2023 15:10:16 2462336 Link 0 |
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Are you joking? That was not a stamp. Ruane should have got black for cynical play.
MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 771 - 06/03/2023 17:07:41 2462382 Link 0 |
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Ultan Harney is badly missed at midfield.Keith Doyle isn't there yet and I'm not sure about Tadhg O'Rourke. Is Shane Cunnane worth a try at midfield. The U20s from 2 years ago will take time. I thought Lavin was poor in goals yesterday. I'm not optimistic at all after yesterday. We'll probably survive in Division 1 but a massive improvement is needed for Castlebar in just over a month. Davy Burke is entitled to time. He was appointed late and there's a lot of work to be done. I don't think Roscommon will do anything in the championship this year but maybe foundations can be built going forward. endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2154 - 06/03/2023 17:35:48 2462395 Link 0 |
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I watched the game back on the player and I have changed my view on how it looked from the stand. We didn't actually play too badly but that first 20 minutes killed us. Out of the seven points they scored without response 3 were frees, 1 45 and 1 from a terrible kick out. Some of those early fouls were really poor tackling and that needs to be worked on. In contrast when we got up the other end Mayo were superb at bottling us up, tackling and turning us over. I thought they always gave their men options when on the attack with multiple players making good runs. We seemed to be far too static in their end of the field and limited the options for the man with the ball. However, that really improved in the second half. I thought after the first 20 mins we did brilliant to snuff out a few Mayo attacks at various stages in the game. We actually did brilliant to turn them over at one stage only for a terrible pass to gift them a goal. Some of exection whether it was passing, shooting or tackling let us down and that is the brilliant thing about Div 1, you get punished for your mistakes and hopefully they will learn from those. A missed 45 as well that probably didn't suit a left foot taker. The young lads made some individual errors but I thought aside from maybe two mistakes Colin Walsh did really well. Ben O'Carroll was under severe pressure all game and that is something he will have to get used to. Tadgh O'Rourke really stood up in that second half and there was a never say die attitude about the whole team. Looking back on that game now, the first twenty minutes aside, it was much better than the Monaghan performance. I felt sorry for Lavin, yes some of his kick outs were poor but it was his first game back and Mayo put them under serious pressure. Tommy Conroy brilliant to watch and unmarkable at times. I thought Diarmuid O'Connor probably should have got MOM. That is a really good Mayo team and Roscommon will be kicking themselves on how they started the game. Mayo did deserve it overall but looking back the score line was a fair reflection. They had a good start but they did not deserve to be any more ahead than they were at half time. MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 771 - 06/03/2023 18:14:32 2462407 Link 1 |
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What is the criteria for deciding who goes down if two/three teams are on equal points after the final game? letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 492 - 06/03/2023 18:39:39 2462413 Link 0 |
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Lots to learn from yesterday, we are by no means the finished article and the last 2 weekends will have done no harm for anyone losing the run or themselves although I think that was more the media etc then any of us supporters. Think we know now that Carroll should be number 1 and that David Murray shouldn't be starting, we are short of natural backs and that is our weakest line imo. Walsh done okay for first start has the ability to be a big player for us in the future. Doyle will have learned a lot from last two wends didn't go his way and he is learning his trade in a tough environment but will stand to him and the rest of the young lads. Daire Cregg is probably the most ready physically, BOC for all his talent found it tough yesterday but kept battling and nearly won it for us. Hughes is a great athlete but kick passing was a bit wayward yesterday and something that needs improved on. It's great to be getting these games at this level, if you had said at start of year we'd have 6 out of 10 and lose the two games by 2 and 3 points we'd have taken it. All to play for against Donegal on the last day who are beatable and could be in real bother if bet by Mayo Rossie2020 (Roscommon) - Posts: 169 - 06/03/2023 19:44:23 2462422 Link 1 |