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Replying To Gilberto_Eire:  "While the Roscommon game is only the league but we have two fundamental problems which have nothing to do with the time of year or personal.

The kickouts are beyon pathetic and IMO cost us the AI last year.
I was at it, never rewatched so going off memory but my recollection is that Kerry won all of theirs in the first half and we won maybe 50-60% of ours.
Reverse that trend and we could have been out of sight instead of two up.

If Cian is supposed to be some coaching Guru he's not covering himself in glory based on how poor they are, ditto for Joyce who I wouldn't have even given three years too based on the above.

Gleeson can't even get a tee and ball ready when the ball in is in play, Cluxton would get the ball and tee when he had a moment and would grab and sprint out and often have the ball back in play within 5 seconds, speed is the key to most of the easy ones. Gleeson is arsing around looking for a ball and tee and then getting out slow.
Our players movement is just awful as well, 6 back crowd at CB then job slowly into their pre set positions.. it's comical if they think that's effective. All they have to do is watch Dublin games during the Cluxton era.. heck even Comerford has continued the fundamentals of it. Clear space out the wings and a runner comes from deep towards the full back line and put it in front of him.

The other issue is the constant taking the ball into the corners.
There was one attack at the weekend where we went into one corner, back out, switched, into the other corner back out, switched.
We did this about 7 times before losing the ball, again if Cian is a great coach how does he think taking the ball into any corner is viable option. You can't score in there and you risk losing the ball going in and out. No runners through the middle so the whole exercise is a waste of time.

How many marks have we had since it came in?. Is it that hard to work on spacing and a passer hanging outside the 45 and just kicking it 15 yards for a shot at goal?.. sorry but any team worth their salt should be getting 4/5 kicks a game through marks.
We had one against Mayo, and maybe 1/2 in the whole Championship last year.

There's a lot you can't play for, but working on kick out, not taking the ball down into the corners and marks are three which you can pretty much nail down in sessions.

We have the players but we are getting nothing from the sideline to match the quality on the pitch."
Have 2 agree totally regarding kickouts last Sunday Dylan mchugh was standing on his own looking for the kicitout no one within 50 meters of him at stand side field Gleason had ball in hand went back for tee then decided look up at that stage a Roscommon player picked him up management must be watching different matches than majority of people it's actually become a joke at this stage even rival supporters are laughing at it now,,,, Maybe GPS don't pick that up ,,,, the Galway defenders don't even want the ball from him kicks it along the ground when they are marked , he gave one Jack Glynn last day and 2 Ross men on him ,,no doubt he a very nice person and puts in lots time to it ,,but he not a modern day goalie at all

Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 968 - 09/02/2023 12:21:50    2457433

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Replying To galway19:  "Big game for Claregalway College on Saturday trying to win their first Senior A final. Probably will hinge on whether Eanna Monaghan is fit enough to start but they do have 10 players from last year's Minor and U20 county panels so they definitely are talented enough."
Have to go back to 2006 St Mary's College for a Galway school other than St Jarlaths winning the senior A title.

Dunmore are involved in the C final this weekend also i believe.

Yondu (UK) - Posts: 845 - 09/02/2023 12:56:22    2457443

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How they haven't sorted the kickouts in the last 4 years is absolutely pathetic and all the coaching and money they are getting.

What's worse is that there isn't a proper goal keeper in all of Galway that can't get in ahead of Gleeson.

The least Gleeson can do at the VERY MINIMUM is have the ball on the tee as quick as he can...

Howardhunt1 (Galway) - Posts: 79 - 09/02/2023 13:00:37    2457444

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Flaherty looked very impressive in goal for UL last night

allstars23 (Galway) - Posts: 48 - 09/02/2023 14:32:46    2457478

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U20s start their league campaign off against Roscommon this Saturday.

James Egan - St James
Bernard Coen - Corofin
Éanna Donohue - killereren
Colm Mac Donncha - Naomh Anna
Jack Nolan - St James
Brian Cogger - Corofin
Michael Moughan - Moycullen
Sam O'Neill - St James
Patrick Egan - Corofin
Matthew Thompson - Salthill knocknacarra
Liam O'Conghaile - An Spidéal
Conal Gallagher - St Michael's
David Prendergast - kilconly
Sean Birmingham - Headford
Fergal Ó Sé - An Cheathrú Rua

Subs

Kyle long - Claregalway
Darragh O'Malley - St Michael's
Adam Tierney - Oughterard
Aaron Kavanagh - CLG Bhearna
Jack Nolan - St James
Cillian O Curraoin - Michael Breathnach
Glen Kelly - Monivea/Abbey
Jack McCabe - Corofin
Darragh Burke - Monivea/Abbey
Maidhc Mac Gearailt - Michael Breathnach
Charlie Power - Salthill knocknacarra

Yondu (UK) - Posts: 845 - 09/02/2023 15:09:38    2457487

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No one From Dunmore McHales on the 26???????

fishpond (Galway) - Posts: 89 - 09/02/2023 16:51:32    2457513

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Replying To Gilberto_Eire:  "While the Roscommon game is only the league but we have two fundamental problems which have nothing to do with the time of year or personal.

The kickouts are beyon pathetic and IMO cost us the AI last year.
I was at it, never rewatched so going off memory but my recollection is that Kerry won all of theirs in the first half and we won maybe 50-60% of ours.
Reverse that trend and we could have been out of sight instead of two up.

If Cian is supposed to be some coaching Guru he's not covering himself in glory based on how poor they are, ditto for Joyce who I wouldn't have even given three years too based on the above.

Gleeson can't even get a tee and ball ready when the ball in is in play, Cluxton would get the ball and tee when he had a moment and would grab and sprint out and often have the ball back in play within 5 seconds, speed is the key to most of the easy ones. Gleeson is arsing around looking for a ball and tee and then getting out slow.
Our players movement is just awful as well, 6 back crowd at CB then job slowly into their pre set positions.. it's comical if they think that's effective. All they have to do is watch Dublin games during the Cluxton era.. heck even Comerford has continued the fundamentals of it. Clear space out the wings and a runner comes from deep towards the full back line and put it in front of him.

The other issue is the constant taking the ball into the corners.
There was one attack at the weekend where we went into one corner, back out, switched, into the other corner back out, switched.
We did this about 7 times before losing the ball, again if Cian is a great coach how does he think taking the ball into any corner is viable option. You can't score in there and you risk losing the ball going in and out. No runners through the middle so the whole exercise is a waste of time.

How many marks have we had since it came in?. Is it that hard to work on spacing and a passer hanging outside the 45 and just kicking it 15 yards for a shot at goal?.. sorry but any team worth their salt should be getting 4/5 kicks a game through marks.
We had one against Mayo, and maybe 1/2 in the whole Championship last year.

There's a lot you can't play for, but working on kick out, not taking the ball down into the corners and marks are three which you can pretty much nail down in sessions.

We have the players but we are getting nothing from the sideline to match the quality on the pitch."
Excellent post - agree 100% but it seems the Galway management are looking at different games to the rest of us!

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3470 - 09/02/2023 17:58:21    2457527

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Im always expecting the ref to blow Gleeson for the slow pace of the kickouts. Then we seem to nearly always lose possession in midfield and have for years its like we have no strategy in midfield at all. That we have got to a final despite these limitations shows we have some serious players. Joyce needs to take a chance on a young lad in goal and develop a midfield strategy.

PancakeWard (Galway) - Posts: 86 - 09/02/2023 19:21:30    2457544

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Replying To allstars23:  "Flaherty looked very impressive in goal for UL last night"
Flaherty has to be approached again and convinced to join the fight for his county. We're in real trouble for this position. He has the talent, size, power, intelligence and hopefully the mentality. Carroll from Oranmore-Maree making the GAA's football team of the week is great, only that he's playing for the Rossies! (I know his parents are from Ros but he's a Galway man, not good enough that he's gone off the scene for Galway, whosever fault that was).
PJ, Divilly, Cian O'Neill and Scan brought the lads and us on a brilliant journey last year but quite how they can't plan and execute a kick out strategy that gives us a far greater percentage of possessions and, dare we ask for them, marks, is beyond me at this stage. It's a massive hindrance to our ambitions and this group's potential. Divo and CON need to and can sort this thing out, please do so. Everyone that knows the game to any degree can see it's not working and wasn't last year either.
Hoping we can turn this league campaign around, even with the injuries and other absentees.

togoutlads (Galway) - Posts: 982 - 09/02/2023 21:41:52    2457557

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Interesting to see some Counties are voting to go back to Even age grade Championships ... Tyrone
, Armagh, Antrim, Longford and a few more have opted for 12,14,16 + 18s starting in either 2023 or 2024...

U18s allowed to play Adult football in most of those cases...with written permission from the Parents in some counties.

13,15,17 are definetly the age grades in Galway for 2023 but does anyone know if it's been discussed for further down the line ?

Black+Blue (Galway) - Posts: 134 - 10/02/2023 09:54:38    2457584

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Replying To Black+Blue:  "Interesting to see some Counties are voting to go back to Even age grade Championships ... Tyrone
, Armagh, Antrim, Longford and a few more have opted for 12,14,16 + 18s starting in either 2023 or 2024...

U18s allowed to play Adult football in most of those cases...with written permission from the Parents in some counties.

13,15,17 are definetly the age grades in Galway for 2023 but does anyone know if it's been discussed for further down the line ?"
Mayo have also gone back to even ages , can't understand why GAA top brass can not just change it , it make no sense some counties playing different age groups ..,feile under 15 between under 15 championship and feile players prob get 10 -12 matches then following year under 16 they get 3-4 matches which is pure joke , then under 17 finished in Galway for most clubs mid September next matches for them end June ,, 9 months no game you could not make it up ,, under 19 then have 2 separated competition ( prob play 8-10 games ) and they also can play adult football from junior C up to senior ,, in summary if u 16 or 17 u play no football for 8-9 months but if ur 19 between college as well u prob play 20 matches min ,, that's way it is in Galway,,

Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 968 - 10/02/2023 13:10:35    2457644

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Replying To Black+Blue:  "Interesting to see some Counties are voting to go back to Even age grade Championships ... Tyrone
, Armagh, Antrim, Longford and a few more have opted for 12,14,16 + 18s starting in either 2023 or 2024...

U18s allowed to play Adult football in most of those cases...with written permission from the Parents in some counties.

13,15,17 are definetly the age grades in Galway for 2023 but does anyone know if it's been discussed for further down the line ?"
The GAA have made some really bad decisions over the years but changing the grades is up there with the worst of them.
The rationale for changing them was , I believe, to not have minors doing leaving Cert, but that did not consider that with the 6 year cycle LC average age has increased with the result that there is now as many LCs playing u20 as would have been playing u18.
Then leaving it up to county boards to decide age groups is very strange as it should be consistent. And this puts the CBs in a dilemma. i.e do they deploy u17/u20 to align with county set up or keep with u18 / u21 to maximise plater retention.
Player retention is the biggest issue because 18 year olds ( in general) are not strong enough for adult football and most county boards deploy very condensed ( sometimes 1 x knockout competition) at u20/u21.
The whole thing was poorly thought out and , in my opinion, was all done in the guise of being seen to do something significant in the interests of player welfare.... and we know how little really is thought of player welfare by looking at what is being asked of inter county 3rd level students in recent weeks.

anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 960 - 10/02/2023 13:18:15    2457648

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Can we please stop comparing goal keepers to Cluxton he was a once in a generation player and we will never see the likes of him again, it doesn't matter who is in we will always be on about them not being good enough and Cluxton did this and that, I do agree it needs to improve but also there no plan in place seems to be off the cuff so management have a lot to do with it, also Connor Flaherty has opted out of the panel so until he wants to play he's not an option,
Our play was toothless against an average Roscommon team we were slow took poor options on the ball, cleared out the scoring zone and played in the corners no one breaking lines or doing any hard running, I really hope the two weeks gives them time to work on a few things Tyrone is a must win

Fox.1n.7he.b0x (Galway) - Posts: 135 - 11/02/2023 09:52:10    2457772

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I see Roscommon also have changed to under 14 : 16 18 be interested to know how many counties have now changed

Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 968 - 11/02/2023 11:07:24    2457775

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Sometimes can't be right if he's opted out of the panel. One thing our neighbours in Mayo do very well is making use of all players available to them (ok outwith Mullin who has gone to Oz) but anyone playing club football in Mayo who is up to standard would make themselves available.

No blame on Flaherty, he's his own man and we don't know the full story but it's just interesting to see how Mayo do that more effectively than ourselves. This isn't new, it's been going on for years.

ahsure. (Galway) - Posts: 1635 - 11/02/2023 12:05:36    2457784

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Good article in the Examiner during the week re Juvenile Age Grades.
Seems there are several motions connected to this topic that will be voted on in National Congress next weekend.

From what I can gather Roscommon, Tyrone,Armagh,Antrim, Westmeath,Tipperary, Kilkenny, Kerry, Waterford have all decided to go for even age Championships in 23 or 24.

Donegal, Derry and Down appear likely to do the same this week.... can't find any more info than that.

I presume if more than 50% of Counties switch to Even ages there will then be pressure to follow with Inter County Age Grades ?.. that'll possibly effect Feile at u15 too ?

Seems change could be on the way again.. hope it's clear and decisive which ever way it goes !

Black+Blue (Galway) - Posts: 134 - 11/02/2023 13:14:49    2457797

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Kickitout is right, Mayo are another County who want to revert to Even Age...The Chairmen of both Dublin and Limerick GAA are also promoting change in their Counties.
Seems like a lot of momentum behind it now.

Black+Blue (Galway) - Posts: 134 - 11/02/2023 13:36:07    2457801

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Very disappointing result from Claregalway college. Knowing that SJC had been unlucky to be eliminated on score difference gave them a great chance, but management gave them an awful negative game plan and Summerhill took their chances. The All Ireland win by Galway has also taken it's effect on SJC and Claregalway with injuries and players looking burned this year.

GDL (Galway) - Posts: 776 - 11/02/2023 16:21:04    2457818

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Replying To GDL:  "Very disappointing result from Claregalway college. Knowing that SJC had been unlucky to be eliminated on score difference gave them a great chance, but management gave them an awful negative game plan and Summerhill took their chances. The All Ireland win by Galway has also taken it's effect on SJC and Claregalway with injuries and players looking burned this year."
Serious good work done by Sligo. Both Connacht A and B titles won this afternoon. U20 Sligo footballers last year and Minors 2021 won Connacht titles. They'll be strong at both minor and U20 at county level again this year.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3520 - 11/02/2023 17:01:49    2457821

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Replying To GDL:  "Very disappointing result from Claregalway college. Knowing that SJC had been unlucky to be eliminated on score difference gave them a great chance, but management gave them an awful negative game plan and Summerhill took their chances. The All Ireland win by Galway has also taken it's effect on SJC and Claregalway with injuries and players looking burned this year."
Summerhill win 0-16 to 1-9
Fair play to all youngsters involved - gave it their all

Delighted for Dunmore CS.. beat Ballinamore CS
4-12 to 1-6

U-20's beaten by Ros..early days yet..

Really (Galway) - Posts: 622 - 11/02/2023 17:14:40    2457825

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