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Replying To TheUsername:  "Full tilt, young Diarmuid is a player, its consistency and him maintaining is optimal is his next stage of development. Moran was already a brilliant fielder, be a fascinating move if Jack coaxes him, will keep an eye out for young Joe, one or two others breaking through i hear."
We are hoping to strengthen than 1 to 9 section as you mention Username but next year I expect Dublin to be back with the hunger. Tyrone to try prove they not one hit wonders. A hurt Donegal and maybe Galway to step up. Monaghan Armagh and Mayo. It could be a very interesting championship.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 2926 - 21/10/2021 16:55:14    2386696

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "That's true, this new system is not great.

I was in killarney today for the intermediate semifinal between Rathmore and Beaufort and the Kerry club final between Austin Stacks and Kenmare where Beaufort lived up to their favourites tag by winning 1:16 to Ráthmores 1:10 and now will face Na Gaeil in the final.

Stacks beat Kenmare by 1:16 to 1:11 where Kenmares biggest problem was they only had 1 Seánie Shea, Stacks will represent the County now should a divisional side win the championship, stack were very impressive and they have subs that can more than contribute."
Stacks will be representing Kerry surely? Can anyone live with East Kerry? A club side that is? Amazing to see Crokes fall away. With Nemo out in Cork,maybe Munster champions might come from elsewhere.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 21/10/2021 18:48:56    2386716

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "Yes it will be interesting User re Moran.if he stays on I would say he will be a part time player and could be used at times as a ff as we all know Jack likes the big ff.I think Diarmuid O connor is ready to take it to the next level but yes we need more from Jack Barry than man marking.i would guess their will be a new midfielder this year and by all accounts a guy called Joe O connor could be in the frame.Agree if option B is passed the panel will be so important,"
I think next year if Moran stays on our 3 main midfielders should be Moran, Diarmuid O'Connor and Joe O'Connor. Joe has what's required to be an inter county midfielder and should be given his chance. For me I don't see Barry or Spillane as an option unless they improve a good bit. Paul O'Shea is another option but I'd have concerns about his defensive work rate and pace. Outstanding kick passer and fielder and such an elegant player but you can't have passengers defensively at Inter County level. Hopefully he can improve these parts of his game and be a real option.

Kerry15 (Kerry) - Posts: 918 - 21/10/2021 20:54:16    2386732

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "We are hoping to strengthen than 1 to 9 section as you mention Username but next year I expect Dublin to be back with the hunger. Tyrone to try prove they not one hit wonders. A hurt Donegal and maybe Galway to step up. Monaghan Armagh and Mayo. It could be a very interesting championship."
Be very interesting to see what Jack does Mick, he got the better of us tactics wise in the Leinster final and was able to put a system in place to contain us and hurt us on the counter in the Leinster final this year, he got the tactics right, even if the approach was a bit unambitious, he will have better players in Kerry though to go toe to toe and surely will.

Be a ding dong championship, i couldn't pick with a winner now, we're no great shakes any more, i dont have huge trust in Dessie - never did if im being honest. Was chatting to one of the higher profile players recently, seemed to be genuinely hurting and saying squad was chomping a bit, but who knows, rumor's on the ground that a couple of our better lads may take a year out - but you get that this time a year, so who knows.

if option B comes to pass and there are more games i think deeper squads and the ability to grind out a result will be a key indicator of success, Tyrone look the most balanced and competent on that count to me. But she's a hard one to call at the moment wouldn't rule anybody out. Was good to see Tyrone win last year, after our era ended, i think a lot comes back down now to will, fight and want - with quality obviously, which will make for a great championship hopefully.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4269 - 22/10/2021 10:25:45    2386757

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Be very interesting to see what Jack does Mick, he got the better of us tactics wise in the Leinster final and was able to put a system in place to contain us and hurt us on the counter in the Leinster final this year, he got the tactics right, even if the approach was a bit unambitious, he will have better players in Kerry though to go toe to toe and surely will.

Be a ding dong championship, i couldn't pick with a winner now, we're no great shakes any more, i dont have huge trust in Dessie - never did if im being honest. Was chatting to one of the higher profile players recently, seemed to be genuinely hurting and saying squad was chomping a bit, but who knows, rumor's on the ground that a couple of our better lads may take a year out - but you get that this time a year, so who knows.

if option B comes to pass and there are more games i think deeper squads and the ability to grind out a result will be a key indicator of success, Tyrone look the most balanced and competent on that count to me. But she's a hard one to call at the moment wouldn't rule anybody out. Was good to see Tyrone win last year, after our era ended, i think a lot comes back down now to will, fight and want - with quality obviously, which will make for a great championship hopefully."
True Username but I think the whole championship will be really mouth watering if option B comes in. If so in division 1 some teams will have 4 away games. Can you imagine a county having 4 away games against the other top contenders e. g. Kerry way to Dublin Donegal Tyrone and Mayo. The pressure would be on to make top 5.On Dessie it was always going to be a tough ask after Gavin especially as the team achieved so much. Now though there s nothing like a defeat to ré group the troops and give them the hunger again. I do think Dessie needs to be given a little time before we judge him. Last year was a hard one for him ré Cluxton etc.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 2926 - 22/10/2021 12:27:20    2386798

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Replying To bennybunny:  "Stacks will be representing Kerry surely? Can anyone live with East Kerry? A club side that is? Amazing to see Crokes fall away. With Nemo out in Cork,maybe Munster champions might come from elsewhere."
Yea Benny. Nemo gone and Crokes demise definately opens up munster club championship. Crokes demise is weird as the still have so much talent.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 2926 - 22/10/2021 12:29:42    2386801

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Replying To bennybunny:  "Stacks will be representing Kerry surely? Can anyone live with East Kerry? A club side that is? Amazing to see Crokes fall away. With Nemo out in Cork,maybe Munster champions might come from elsewhere."
Stacks are playing East Kerry in the first game so that's a great advantage to the club team to catch the divisional team before they build momentum, East kerry would beat most intercounty teams, they're very strong.

If East kerry win county championship then stacks represents Kerry, Stacks players are big and very well conditioned.

Surprised to see Nemo out so early in Cork, crokes are a funny 1 as they still got a good team but they could come good yet.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 22/10/2021 14:29:45    2386828

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "True Username but I think the whole championship will be really mouth watering if option B comes in. If so in division 1 some teams will have 4 away games. Can you imagine a county having 4 away games against the other top contenders e. g. Kerry way to Dublin Donegal Tyrone and Mayo. The pressure would be on to make top 5.On Dessie it was always going to be a tough ask after Gavin especially as the team achieved so much. Now though there s nothing like a defeat to ré group the troops and give them the hunger again. I do think Dessie needs to be given a little time before we judge him. Last year was a hard one for him ré Cluxton etc."
The B proposal doesn't from what I can see fix the problem of dublin getting the majority of their games at home, out of a possible 10 games dublin will have between 6 and 7 in Croke Park, whereas Kerry Tyrone Mayo Galway Monaghan and anyone else would only have between 3-4 games at home.

That's too much of an advantage to dublin in my book Mick

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 22/10/2021 15:18:17    2386836

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "The B proposal doesn't from what I can see fix the problem of dublin getting the majority of their games at home, out of a possible 10 games dublin will have between 6 and 7 in Croke Park, whereas Kerry Tyrone Mayo Galway Monaghan and anyone else would only have between 3-4 games at home.

That's too much of an advantage to dublin in my book Mick"
But it does on a way. Dublin over a 2 year period will have the same amount of home and away games as others in their division. Quarter finals might be neutral and then if Dubs get to semi and final then we'll Croke Park will come into the equation especially for a final but the league section is same for everyone ré home and away.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 2926 - 22/10/2021 18:37:31    2386876

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Be very interesting to see what Jack does Mick, he got the better of us tactics wise in the Leinster final and was able to put a system in place to contain us and hurt us on the counter in the Leinster final this year, he got the tactics right, even if the approach was a bit unambitious, he will have better players in Kerry though to go toe to toe and surely will.

Be a ding dong championship, i couldn't pick with a winner now, we're no great shakes any more, i dont have huge trust in Dessie - never did if im being honest. Was chatting to one of the higher profile players recently, seemed to be genuinely hurting and saying squad was chomping a bit, but who knows, rumor's on the ground that a couple of our better lads may take a year out - but you get that this time a year, so who knows.

if option B comes to pass and there are more games i think deeper squads and the ability to grind out a result will be a key indicator of success, Tyrone look the most balanced and competent on that count to me. But she's a hard one to call at the moment wouldn't rule anybody out. Was good to see Tyrone win last year, after our era ended, i think a lot comes back down now to will, fight and want - with quality obviously, which will make for a great championship hopefully."
You were chatting to a high profile player lately? And he was hurting? And is chomping at the bit? Sure isn't every player that didn't win the allireland hurting and chomping at the bit? :-)

If you were talking to a high profile player which I very much doubt you were I'd say he'd have been looking at you funny.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 22/10/2021 19:41:44    2386887

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "But it does on a way. Dublin over a 2 year period will have the same amount of home and away games as others in their division. Quarter finals might be neutral and then if Dubs get to semi and final then we'll Croke Park will come into the equation especially for a final but the league section is same for everyone ré home and away."
Ya Mick but dublin will have 6-7 games at home in Croker every year whereas everyone will only have 3-4 games at home, that's a massive advantage to the dubs, as always they come out on top in every situation.

By right the gaa should add a stipulation that dublin have to play all their quarter finals in a neutral venue and not crokepark. That would go a little way to leveling the playing field.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 23/10/2021 12:40:08    2386925

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Ya Mick but dublin will have 6-7 games at home in Croker every year whereas everyone will only have 3-4 games at home, that's a massive advantage to the dubs, as always they come out on top in every situation.

By right the gaa should add a stipulation that dublin have to play all their quarter finals in a neutral venue and not crokepark. That would go a little way to leveling the playing field."
The all ireland final is always going to be in croker and rightly so. Its possible to move the semis but most want it in croker. Quarter finals can be played neutral. Proposal B is rejected now anyway. Actually the team proposal B would have affected the most was Dublin as to get to a quarter final they would gave to play 3 or 4 games away against teams like Tyrone Kerry Mayo Donegal. Dublin would have been the biggest losers followed then by Kerry and Mayo

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 2926 - 23/10/2021 13:17:24    2386932

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "The all ireland final is always going to be in croker and rightly so. Its possible to move the semis but most want it in croker. Quarter finals can be played neutral. Proposal B is rejected now anyway. Actually the team proposal B would have affected the most was Dublin as to get to a quarter final they would gave to play 3 or 4 games away against teams like Tyrone Kerry Mayo Donegal. Dublin would have been the biggest losers followed then by Kerry and Mayo"
That's great news mick, the gaa need to go away and come back wit a better fairer plan, and get dublin out of Croke Park for their quarter finals.

I don't mind the semifinals and finals being played at HQ but deffo quarters should be played a neutral venues.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 23/10/2021 13:46:37    2386947

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Ya Mick but dublin will have 6-7 games at home in Croker every year whereas everyone will only have 3-4 games at home, that's a massive advantage to the dubs, as always they come out on top in every situation.

By right the gaa should add a stipulation that dublin have to play all their quarter finals in a neutral venue and not crokepark. That would go a little way to leveling the playing field."
You would still find something about Dublin to whinge about .

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2815 - 23/10/2021 15:43:34    2386987

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Replying To superbluedub:  "You would still find something about Dublin to whinge about ."
Ah well when the gaa continues to give ye loads of cash and 90% of yer games at home with reffs living and working in dublin then there are going to be plenty of sticks to beat ye with.

Remember dublin have the power to change all this, thanks to the gaa cash ye are now self sufficient, so ye could stop taking the gaa hand outs.

Ye could build yer own stadium and stop squatting in Croke Park. .

And ye could object to reffs living and working in dublin taking charge of yer games.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 23/10/2021 18:27:47    2387032

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Ah well when the gaa continues to give ye loads of cash and 90% of yer games at home with reffs living and working in dublin then there are going to be plenty of sticks to beat ye with.

Remember dublin have the power to change all this, thanks to the gaa cash ye are now self sufficient, so ye could stop taking the gaa hand outs.

Ye could build yer own stadium and stop squatting in Croke Park. .

And ye could object to reffs living and working in dublin taking charge of yer games."
90 per cent of theor games wouldn't be at home If option B was voted in. Kerry voted against I believe took the handle route true Munster. Big critic of Dublins advantages but one could have been changed today and Kerry voted against

sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 949 - 23/10/2021 21:18:25    2387062

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Ah well when the gaa continues to give ye loads of cash and 90% of yer games at home with reffs living and working in dublin then there are going to be plenty of sticks to beat ye with.

Remember dublin have the power to change all this, thanks to the gaa cash ye are now self sufficient, so ye could stop taking the gaa hand outs.

Ye could build yer own stadium and stop squatting in Croke Park. .

And ye could object to reffs living and working in dublin taking charge of yer games."
Sure why would they? Would Kerry shoot itself in the foot, were they in Dublin's shoes? (Well, they've almost all the same advantages that the Dubs have anyway, vis a vis 85% of other counties).

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1195 - 24/10/2021 08:40:12    2387082

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Replying To sourmilk93:  "90 per cent of theor games wouldn't be at home If option B was voted in. Kerry voted against I believe took the handle route true Munster. Big critic of Dublins advantages but one could have been changed today and Kerry voted against"
I thought it was a secret ballot? If so how do you know Kerry voted against it?

Anyway under the new system dublin would still have had more home games than everyone else.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 24/10/2021 12:06:37    2387123

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "Sure why would they? Would Kerry shoot itself in the foot, were they in Dublin's shoes? (Well, they've almost all the same advantages that the Dubs have anyway, vis a vis 85% of other counties)."
Almost the same advantage as dublin? We don't play 90% of our games at home, we don't have reffs living and working in our county reffing our games, and as far as I can remember Kerry were 10th on the list of gaa funding 10 places behind dublin.

So we're literally not even in the same ball park as dublin when it comes to advantages.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 24/10/2021 14:45:36    2387150

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Mick, I think you misspelt Dublin GAA Anxiety in the thread title when you started this thread! ;)

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4269 - 24/10/2021 21:59:16    2387225

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