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Replying To Breezy:  "Very few managers have previous inter county experience and there are only a few Davy Fitz type career managers who move around.

Shane done a great job with one of the top clubs in Ireland right now and it's either that or an underage job that gets you senior IC with most managers"
Well breezy he sure hasn't done a great job with Galway. No doubt about that.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 1527 - 24/07/2021 20:28:36    2363606

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Replying To Breezy:  "Tough double loss for you there today Katzer"
As usual 100% on her predictions.

100% wrong (:

Westfester (Limerick) - Posts: 938 - 24/07/2021 20:46:06    2363616

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Replying To gatha:  "How many managers have Galway in the last 20-25 years. They all couldn't be bad. A county with the underage record of Galway should do a lot better. They had an ALL-Ireland winning manager from Galway and he left with that team in it's prime. Explain that."
I think that's a bit too uncomfortable for Galway at the moment.. Easier to blame O Neill.

skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 892 - 24/07/2021 21:24:34    2363638

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Like the two incidents last week that just got yellow cards Conor Gleeson's was red. He could have broke Joe's hand. I hope there is not a smell of it though. It was announced that Joe was being replaced but was not. Where did t.v. coverage get its information. The referee had 15 minutes this time to decide between yellow and red. Hopefully there was no interference and Galway I am sure are above that. An explanation of who reported Gleeson and how the tv got information that was wrong or just changed again. Glad for sure that the great Joe is okay but I am sure hurting.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 1638 - 24/07/2021 21:36:39    2363658

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Replying To gatha:  "How many managers have Galway in the last 20-25 years. They all couldn't be bad. A county with the underage record of Galway should do a lot better. They had an ALL-Ireland winning manager from Galway and he left with that team in it's prime. Explain that."
Donoghue given the boot when he should have been backed in 2019. Nobody as far as I know wanted the gig in Galway (that tells you all you need to know with the squad at disposal). Something seriously wrong which is disheartening as we seemed to get our act together 2016-2019.

ahsure. (Galway) - Posts: 1259 - 24/07/2021 21:51:43    2363662

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Replying To endgame:  "Well breezy he sure hasn't done a great job with Galway. No doubt about that."
Maybe-just maybe- if Galway met Waterford in '17 with a fully fit Jamie Barron-he had to go off that day as has had one one of the Bennetts, who scored one of the goals, Conor Glesson, a fully fit Austin Gleeson, who played though sick on the day, it might have been a different story. Today was the eleventh time out of twelve meetings that the Decies beat the Tribesmen- so they sure seem to have an Indian Sign on Galway. I hope if we don't win that they will. No county would deserve it more

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 3243 - 24/07/2021 22:01:57    2363666

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Replying To gatha:  "How many managers have Galway in the last 20-25 years. They all couldn't be bad. A county with the underage record of Galway should do a lot better. They had an ALL-Ireland winning manager from Galway and he left with that team in it's prime. Explain that."
Yeah that was bad,a Galway AI winning manager leaving,could it be the job for Eddie Brennan?

ONdeDITCH (Limerick) - Posts: 853 - 24/07/2021 22:08:59    2363669

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Is there not some consolation for Shane O'Neill and Galway after today's results? Now that they are out, doesn't that rule out a meeting with Kilkenny and therefore, they can share in the League title for 2021? So not a barren cupboard for Shane O'Neill!

TippRed (Tipperary) - Posts: 42 - 24/07/2021 22:18:18    2363674

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Replying To endgame:  "Well breezy he sure hasn't done a great job with Galway. No doubt about that."
I wasn't defending him I was defending the Galway county board who were getting the blame in the post I replied to.

O'Neills credentials were excellent up until this

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1232 - 24/07/2021 22:27:45    2363678

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Replying To ONdeDITCH:  "Cork just got over the line,not very impressive.Tony Kelly almost won it for Clare at the death.I thought there should have been another play in it as there was a stoppage before the added time commenced and the subs and stoppages in the added time.
Interesting Harnedy got man of the match,got a lot of possession but not a great exposition of the skills of the game which is a feature of this Cork team,great speed and athleticism though."
I can't help wondering if tiredness was the main reason for Clare losing today. It was strange, to say the least, that Cork (and Galway) got a bye to the second qualifier round after losing their only game, whereas Clare, after a great win over Waterford and an unlucky loss to Tipp, had to play Wexford on one of the hottest days of the year, and then turn around to play a well-rested Cork a week later. Of the teams eliminated from the championship at this stage I think Clare can consider themselves by far the unluckiest.

midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 309 - 24/07/2021 22:55:13    2363691

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Maybe-just maybe- if Galway met Waterford in '17 with a fully fit Jamie Barron-he had to go off that day as has had one one of the Bennetts, who scored one of the goals, Conor Glesson, a fully fit Austin Gleeson, who played though sick on the day, it might have been a different story. Today was the eleventh time out of twelve meetings that the Decies beat the Tribesmen- so they sure seem to have an Indian Sign on Galway. I hope if we don't win that they will. No county would deserve it more"
Maybe just maybe……

ahsure. (Galway) - Posts: 1259 - 24/07/2021 23:14:03    2363697

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Davy Fitzgerald was in portlaoise at the Laois V Westmeath game this evening didn't see him but a good few people said he was there. I wonder what was the reason he was there Laois could be his next step on the managerial ladder perhaps. Cheddar is a good hurling man but I hear the players are not happy with the direction he's taking them. Would Davy improve Laois like Eddie Brennan did?

Richardkimble (Laois) - Posts: 31 - 24/07/2021 23:21:52    2363699

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Replying To Breezy:  "Only Limerick foul don't you know"
Yes and not a word about incidents in both the games today. The complainers are a shower of hypocrites and poor losers.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 3243 - 24/07/2021 23:59:14    2363708

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Maybe-just maybe- if Galway met Waterford in '17 with a fully fit Jamie Barron-he had to go off that day as has had one one of the Bennetts, who scored one of the goals, Conor Glesson, a fully fit Austin Gleeson, who played though sick on the day, it might have been a different story. Today was the eleventh time out of twelve meetings that the Decies beat the Tribesmen- so they sure seem to have an Indian Sign on Galway. I hope if we don't win that they will. No county would deserve it more"
Maybe just maybe if in 2018 Galway hand another week or two to recover they would have beaten Limerick. And maybe just maybe if limerick had played a kilkenny team that had not been playing for the third week in a row they would not have been even in the semifinal let alone final. See where I'm going with this.

ecad123 (Galway) - Posts: 192 - 25/07/2021 01:04:57    2363720

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Maybe-just maybe- if Galway met Waterford in '17 with a fully fit Jamie Barron-he had to go off that day as has had one one of the Bennetts, who scored one of the goals, Conor Glesson, a fully fit Austin Gleeson, who played though sick on the day, it might have been a different story. Today was the eleventh time out of twelve meetings that the Decies beat the Tribesmen- so they sure seem to have an Indian Sign on Galway. I hope if we don't win that they will. No county would deserve it more"
Thanks Oldtourman. Ride this wave ye are on because like us the fallow years are way too many.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 1638 - 25/07/2021 01:51:41    2363721

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Replying To ecad123:  "Maybe just maybe if in 2018 Galway hand another week or two to recover they would have beaten Limerick. And maybe just maybe if limerick had played a kilkenny team that had not been playing for the third week in a row they would not have been even in the semifinal let alone final. See where I'm going with this."
Although I see where you are coming from, both Galway (twice) and Kilkenny had chances to win the first day in earlier games and didn't do it. Anyway Galway had a forthnight to recover so there are different ways of viewing that. Limerick have also followed '18 up with three Munster titles two National Leagues and another All Ireland, which is not bad considering they were 45 years down before that.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 3243 - 25/07/2021 09:31:53    2363738

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Replying To endgame:  "Well breezy he sure hasn't done a great job with Galway. No doubt about that."
Having said that endgame, how come that Galway have eleven minor All Irelands since 1999, a string of different clubs have won All Irelands and a number of National Leagues have been won in that time and yet they have only one Senior trophy to show for it. . I suggest some problem was there long before Shane O'Neill. I do believe that if they get their together and really on their U/A successes they will be the top All Ireland of this decade as they were back in the eighties. What is gone is gone and the blame gets nobody anywhere.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 3243 - 25/07/2021 10:03:03    2363744

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Replying To Richardkimble:  "Davy Fitzgerald was in portlaoise at the Laois V Westmeath game this evening didn't see him but a good few people said he was there. I wonder what was the reason he was there Laois could be his next step on the managerial ladder perhaps. Cheddar is a good hurling man but I hear the players are not happy with the direction he's taking them. Would Davy improve Laois like Eddie Brennan did?"
Davy would raise the profile for sure. But inevitably he'd turn it into all about him. Laois need a progressive coach, they have quality players.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1351 - 25/07/2021 10:27:24    2363753

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Having said that endgame, how come that Galway have eleven minor All Irelands since 1999, a string of different clubs have won All Irelands and a number of National Leagues have been won in that time and yet they have only one Senior trophy to show for it. . I suggest some problem was there long before Shane O'Neill. I do believe that if they get their together and really on their U/A successes they will be the top All Ireland of this decade as they were back in the eighties. What is gone is gone and the blame gets nobody anywhere."
Agreed 100%

ahsure. (Galway) - Posts: 1259 - 25/07/2021 10:28:27    2363755

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Replying To ecad123:  "Maybe just maybe if in 2018 Galway hand another week or two to recover they would have beaten Limerick. And maybe just maybe if limerick had played a kilkenny team that had not been playing for the third week in a row they would not have been even in the semifinal let alone final. See where I'm going with this."
Maybe if Galway hadn't let in 2 very soft goals in 2017 the margin of victory would have been much higher. Maybe if Galway had Mattie Kenny as manager instead of AC from 2012-2016 Galway would have won another ALL Ireland, if they had Niall Donoghue (RIP) etc etc. Oldtourman is talking both sides of his mouth, before the game he was saying Galway were still a huge threat as were other Limerick posters, now they come here to bad mouth them. They hit you when you're down, a sporting lot no doubt! Maybe if Limerick hadn't the financial backing of a billionaire they wouldn't be so hot! There will always be maybes.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1069 - 25/07/2021 10:33:01    2363758

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