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Replying To Viking66:  "If Clare win they will play Cork or Galway or less likely Laois. They cant play Waterford. It is strange that purely by luck of the draw Cork and Galway have both ended up with 2 byes this year while the other 4 counties didnt get any byes at all. A very unlikely outcome statistically."
It's a bit silly that Galway, Cork, and the two winners from Rd 1 aren't just all put in the one bowl to draw the Rd 2 fixtures.

Just because you receive a bye doesn't mean you should be separated, more GAA daftness.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1946 - 12/07/2021 14:16:12    2359015

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "It's a bit silly that Galway, Cork, and the two winners from Rd 1 aren't just all put in the one bowl to draw the Rd 2 fixtures.

Just because you receive a bye doesn't mean you should be separated, more GAA daftness."
Don't understand the system tbh, looking forward to Clare v wexford, good game I'd say, gonna go with easy wins for limerick and kilkenny this weekend,

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 885 - 12/07/2021 14:30:05    2359021

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "2019 Leinster Senior Hurling Championship Final

Wexford 1-23 Kilkenny 0-23

2020 Leinster Senior Hurling Championship Final

Galway 0-24 Kilkenny 2-20

2021 Leinster Senior Hurling Championship Semi-Final

Dublin 1-18 Galway 1-14

When. if ever, do your boys become men?"
Once every 15 years....

Shocs07 (Limerick) - Posts: 90 - 12/07/2021 14:50:42    2359032

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "It's a bit silly that Galway, Cork, and the two winners from Rd 1 aren't just all put in the one bowl to draw the Rd 2 fixtures.

Just because you receive a bye doesn't mean you should be separated, more GAA daftness."
Cork and Galway wont be separated it will be an open draw.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 3047 - 12/07/2021 15:05:25    2359042

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Replying To fathermurphy:  "This is why the draw was changed from the sunday game to morning ireland, so they have time to arrange matches,this is simply not right!"
Why would they arrange matches what is the benefit to them?

gatha (Kilkenny) - Posts: 297 - 12/07/2021 15:12:48    2359045

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Replying To gatha:  "Why would they arrange matches what is the benefit to them?"
The GAA is full of influence and power. You can come up with any kind of theory from this mornings draw. The simple matter of fact is that it was not transparent and people don't trust GAA going draws correctly.

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1170 - 12/07/2021 15:43:14    2359059

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Replying To gatha:  "Why would they arrange matches what is the benefit to them?"
Revenue maybe? Big 3 bias? Cork have received 2 byes now without even winning a game.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 3047 - 12/07/2021 15:48:41    2359067

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Replying To fathermurphy:  "This is why the draw was changed from the sunday game to morning ireland, so they have time to arrange matches,this is simply not right!"
If I was GAA president I certainly wouldn't be conducting draws at 8.30am.

johnocarroll17 (Limerick) - Posts: 264 - 12/07/2021 15:55:44    2359071

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "I can never quite figure out how the Gaa work work these draws..if Clare beat Wexford can they meet Waterford again or is it a case of them playing Galway.."
And why are the Munster and Leinster counties separated in the draw anyway? Nothing to prevent Clare or Waterford being drawn against Cork. And Galway drawn v Wexford or Laois

johnocarroll17 (Limerick) - Posts: 264 - 12/07/2021 15:58:29    2359073

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Replying To fathermurphy:  "This is why the draw was changed from the sunday game to morning ireland, so they have time to arrange matches,this is simply not right!"
They have constantly used morning Ireland to do the draws - not saying its right but its not just something they decided to do on Sunday.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1259 - 12/07/2021 16:39:44    2359094

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Replying To Viking66:  "If Clare win they will play Cork or Galway or less likely Laois. They cant play Waterford. It is strange that purely by luck of the draw Cork and Galway have both ended up with 2 byes this year while the other 4 counties didnt get any byes at all. A very unlikely outcome statistically."
Both Clare and Wexford won their first game also. Something not right.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 1638 - 12/07/2021 17:17:47    2359107

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Replying To Viking66:  "Revenue maybe? Big 3 bias? Cork have received 2 byes now without even winning a game."
I agree it isn't fair that Clare and Wexford should have to play 2 more games than Cork or Galway in order to get to the same stage but, I don't see why it would be fixed. Clare and Wexford have 2 of the biggest followings in all of Ireland. Wexford, Clare All Ireland would be off the charts. I think Davy paranoia has filtered down to the supporters.

gatha (Kilkenny) - Posts: 297 - 12/07/2021 17:46:23    2359109

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Replying To Viking66:  "Cork and Galway wont be separated it will be an open draw."
I understood you said earlier that if Clare win that they can't play Waterford in Rd 2 , assuming Waterford win, so if they can't it's not an open draw for Rd 2 then ?

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1946 - 12/07/2021 18:28:00    2359114

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I am not going to get too smut. Laois deserve respect and when we play sh-t anyone can beat us. I hope the Waterford players don't get ahead of themselves and Liam Cahill keeps them in check.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 1638 - 12/07/2021 19:26:59    2359136

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Replying To Viking66:  "Cork and Galway wont be separated it will be an open draw."
They are separated if they cant face each other in Round 2, which seems to be the case.

It's far from an open draw if we know already that Cork and Galway cannot meet in Round 2.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1946 - 12/07/2021 19:45:32    2359142

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "I understood you said earlier that if Clare win that they can't play Waterford in Rd 2 , assuming Waterford win, so if they can't it's not an open draw for Rd 2 then ?"
It's an open draw but teams cant play teams they already faced unless its unavoidable. Same as for many years.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 3047 - 12/07/2021 20:48:54    2359162

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Replying To gatha:  "I agree it isn't fair that Clare and Wexford should have to play 2 more games than Cork or Galway in order to get to the same stage but, I don't see why it would be fixed. Clare and Wexford have 2 of the biggest followings in all of Ireland. Wexford, Clare All Ireland would be off the charts. I think Davy paranoia has filtered down to the supporters."
Ah no paranoid people think people are out to get them. I've known people were out to get me long before I ever heard of Davy Fitzgerald;)

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 3047 - 12/07/2021 20:50:34    2359164

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Replying To Canuck:  "I am not going to get too smut. Laois deserve respect and when we play sh-t anyone can beat us. I hope the Waterford players don't get ahead of themselves and Liam Cahill keeps them in check."
Most of this Laois team played in the win over Dublin and didnt get beat out the gate by Tipp in the AIQF in 2019 either.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 3047 - 12/07/2021 20:51:56    2359166

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This might not be right place for this discussion..I've been watching under 20 hurling from munster..rules are different again here,there is no sin bin for deliberate pull down inside 21 and no penalty..I thought the same rules applied at all levels of inter county hurling..how do Gaa come up with this?some of the refs are involved in all grades and rules change within a week..I'm first to give out about them but they deserve a certain amount of sympathy I think..would others agree or am I well off the beaten track?

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 1372 - 12/07/2021 21:20:35    2359178

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Replying To Viking66:  "It's an open draw but teams cant play teams they already faced unless its unavoidable. Same as for many years."
Cork cant play Galway so not really an open draw.

conordee (Galway) - Posts: 417 - 12/07/2021 22:07:17    2359201

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