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What are the opinions of the new anthem protocol?

johnocarroll17 (Limerick) - Posts: 408 - 01/06/2021 21:06:26    2347523

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Replying To johnocarroll17:  "What are the opinions of the new anthem protocol?"
Tell us more. The only protocol I've heard of is the Northern Ireland protocol and I think it's a great thing!

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1903 - 01/06/2021 21:36:40    2347528

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I see yet again in a time of FG in government, the anthemn is now in their sights, we are "multicultural" and a divided Island and must respect and not offend others...what a country we have become...A FG td last week calling for the anthemn to be only played at major sporting events, we dont need to hear it at the Division 3 league final in county X for example..the man making the arugument no doubt has children in private rugby playing colleges and wil hear the anthemn at these posh rugby games probably...the young fellah in the country who wont play intercounty...maybe the Division 3 football final or countyy junior final wil be his only day to represent his family and parish, and I think he (or she) should get to face the flag an hear the anthem...regarding players moving during it and near the end...my late father told me the old IRA never fully acknowledged the Amhran Na bfiann, and the shuffle just before the last line, was just sort of "we dont fully recognised the whole anthemn as Ireland is not fully free" type of thing...we will stand for it but not it all..and thats exactly what I always did as a player and even now (although we dot hear much of the anthemn over the ast 10 years of FG in Government..our society is being rapidly destroyed..no sense of Irishness or nationalism...Religion is another devicesive issue I know with the Angeles on the television is another thing gone now to be more inclusive for everyone..another issue but still..same reason "we are a changed societ"...go up the North the week of the twelfth and tell the orangemen "no bon fires or beating drums now, you are offending alot of people" ...you wouldnt get out with your life...the Irish solution to the latter is "keep your head down and let on you dont hear or see anything"....anway...dont start me..play our anthem for all sporting events for adult grade game at the very least...its nothing to be ashamed of...we are too worried about every other culture at the expense of our own...

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 01/06/2021 21:57:23    2347538

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "Tell us more. The only protocol I've heard of is the Northern Ireland protocol and I think it's a great thing!"
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KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3504 - 01/06/2021 22:54:25    2347564

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "Tell us more. The only protocol I've heard of is the Northern Ireland protocol and I think it's a great thing!"
Basically players are to give their utmost attention to the anthem. Hurlers will have to remove their helmets. No limbering up or drinking from water bottles!

johnocarroll17 (Limerick) - Posts: 408 - 01/06/2021 22:57:32    2347565

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North of Ireland. six county protocol.... I think your on about not playing the anthem so much before matches, I think it should be played before matches and it means a lot up here in the north of Ireland to hear the anthem.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2745 - 01/06/2021 22:59:15    2347566

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So, we have a refereeing crisis, players diving for frees, an imbalanced championship which suits a few teams, and some genius thought this needed to be looked at?
Here's an idea on anthems - play them for finals only. We don't need the anthem before every mickey mouse league match.
This is right up there with the 2 players lifting cups. Its great that the GAA has reached a utopian state that they have only such trivial issues to work out.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1732 - 02/06/2021 09:31:42    2347592

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "I see yet again in a time of FG in government, the anthemn is now in their sights, we are "multicultural" and a divided Island and must respect and not offend others...what a country we have become...A FG td last week calling for the anthemn to be only played at major sporting events, we dont need to hear it at the Division 3 league final in county X for example..the man making the arugument no doubt has children in private rugby playing colleges and wil hear the anthemn at these posh rugby games probably...the young fellah in the country who wont play intercounty...maybe the Division 3 football final or countyy junior final wil be his only day to represent his family and parish, and I think he (or she) should get to face the flag an hear the anthem...regarding players moving during it and near the end...my late father told me the old IRA never fully acknowledged the Amhran Na bfiann, and the shuffle just before the last line, was just sort of "we dont fully recognised the whole anthemn as Ireland is not fully free" type of thing...we will stand for it but not it all..and thats exactly what I always did as a player and even now (although we dot hear much of the anthemn over the ast 10 years of FG in Government..our society is being rapidly destroyed..no sense of Irishness or nationalism...Religion is another devicesive issue I know with the Angeles on the television is another thing gone now to be more inclusive for everyone..another issue but still..same reason "we are a changed societ"...go up the North the week of the twelfth and tell the orangemen "no bon fires or beating drums now, you are offending alot of people" ...you wouldnt get out with your life...the Irish solution to the latter is "keep your head down and let on you dont hear or see anything"....anway...dont start me..play our anthem for all sporting events for adult grade game at the very least...its nothing to be ashamed of...we are too worried about every other culture at the expense of our own..."
The Angelus is still broadcast on RTÉ. We have a 3 party coalition, led by a Fianna Fáil Taoiseach. I am always proud to stand for the anthem, and face the national flag, wherever in Ireland it is played at GAA matches. It's a bit disrespectful to see players sometime break away before the anthem finishes.
I wonder If many GAA players know the words of the anthem.

MicktheMiller (Offaly) - Posts: 421 - 02/06/2021 10:19:26    2347606

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "I see yet again in a time of FG in government, the anthemn is now in their sights, we are "multicultural" and a divided Island and must respect and not offend others...what a country we have become...A FG td last week calling for the anthemn to be only played at major sporting events, we dont need to hear it at the Division 3 league final in county X for example..the man making the arugument no doubt has children in private rugby playing colleges and wil hear the anthemn at these posh rugby games probably...the young fellah in the country who wont play intercounty...maybe the Division 3 football final or countyy junior final wil be his only day to represent his family and parish, and I think he (or she) should get to face the flag an hear the anthem...regarding players moving during it and near the end...my late father told me the old IRA never fully acknowledged the Amhran Na bfiann, and the shuffle just before the last line, was just sort of "we dont fully recognised the whole anthemn as Ireland is not fully free" type of thing...we will stand for it but not it all..and thats exactly what I always did as a player and even now (although we dot hear much of the anthemn over the ast 10 years of FG in Government..our society is being rapidly destroyed..no sense of Irishness or nationalism...Religion is another devicesive issue I know with the Angeles on the television is another thing gone now to be more inclusive for everyone..another issue but still..same reason "we are a changed societ"...go up the North the week of the twelfth and tell the orangemen "no bon fires or beating drums now, you are offending alot of people" ...you wouldnt get out with your life...the Irish solution to the latter is "keep your head down and let on you dont hear or see anything"....anway...dont start me..play our anthem for all sporting events for adult grade game at the very least...its nothing to be ashamed of...we are too worried about every other culture at the expense of our own..."
When did RTÉ stop broadcasting the Anegelus? Or have you made that up to suit your argument?

There is an argument that the playing of 'Amhrán na bhFiann' before every match, often awful recordings on terrible sound systems, is quite disrespectful.

I don't quite understand how you equate some FG politician, and I'm no fan of theirs, calling for the playing of 'Amhrán na bhFiann' to be exclusive to big games with some sort of all out attack on 'our culture'.

How is 'our society being rapidly destroyed'?

How is 'there no sense of Irishness'?

What cultures are we 'too worried about' and how exactly is it 'at expense of our own'?

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13707 - 02/06/2021 10:42:56    2347615

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what about us spectators? can we still bellow like bullocks stuck in a ditch before the anthem concludes?

Maroonatic (Galway) - Posts: 1060 - 02/06/2021 10:53:21    2347624

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "I see yet again in a time of FG in government, the anthemn is now in their sights, we are "multicultural" and a divided Island and must respect and not offend others...what a country we have become...A FG td last week calling for the anthemn to be only played at major sporting events, we dont need to hear it at the Division 3 league final in county X for example..the man making the arugument no doubt has children in private rugby playing colleges and wil hear the anthemn at these posh rugby games probably...the young fellah in the country who wont play intercounty...maybe the Division 3 football final or countyy junior final wil be his only day to represent his family and parish, and I think he (or she) should get to face the flag an hear the anthem...regarding players moving during it and near the end...my late father told me the old IRA never fully acknowledged the Amhran Na bfiann, and the shuffle just before the last line, was just sort of "we dont fully recognised the whole anthemn as Ireland is not fully free" type of thing...we will stand for it but not it all..and thats exactly what I always did as a player and even now (although we dot hear much of the anthemn over the ast 10 years of FG in Government..our society is being rapidly destroyed..no sense of Irishness or nationalism...Religion is another devicesive issue I know with the Angeles on the television is another thing gone now to be more inclusive for everyone..another issue but still..same reason "we are a changed societ"...go up the North the week of the twelfth and tell the orangemen "no bon fires or beating drums now, you are offending alot of people" ...you wouldnt get out with your life...the Irish solution to the latter is "keep your head down and let on you dont hear or see anything"....anway...dont start me..play our anthem for all sporting events for adult grade game at the very least...its nothing to be ashamed of...we are too worried about every other culture at the expense of our own..."
Wow how incredibly off topic. The new protocol is about respecting the anthem not the opposite but any attempt to make a cheap dig at FG and the "woke".

The likes of you are why this forum is now dead

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 02/06/2021 11:04:52    2347627

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Replying To MesAmis:  "When did RTÉ stop broadcasting the Anegelus? Or have you made that up to suit your argument?

There is an argument that the playing of 'Amhrán na bhFiann' before every match, often awful recordings on terrible sound systems, is quite disrespectful.

I don't quite understand how you equate some FG politician, and I'm no fan of theirs, calling for the playing of 'Amhrán na bhFiann' to be exclusive to big games with some sort of all out attack on 'our culture'.

How is 'our society being rapidly destroyed'?

How is 'there no sense of Irishness'?

What cultures are we 'too worried about' and how exactly is it 'at expense of our own'?"
They play the bells still but it's not the Angelus as it used to be, it's a Catholic prayer with Catholic imagery, now that was deemed to be offensive or not in keeping with our multicultural society so now they just play the bells and you can stir your tea to it or whatever you fancy.
We'll end up like the Englishmen, strangers in our own country.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2745 - 02/06/2021 11:08:48    2347628

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "They play the bells still but it's not the Angelus as it used to be, it's a Catholic prayer with Catholic imagery, now that was deemed to be offensive or not in keeping with our multicultural society so now they just play the bells and you can stir your tea to it or whatever you fancy.
We'll end up like the Englishmen, strangers in our own country."
That old catholic Ireland was an awful crap dreary place and the further away we get the better. The church ruined this country and plenty of it's people

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 02/06/2021 11:29:44    2347634

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "They play the bells still but it's not the Angelus as it used to be, it's a Catholic prayer with Catholic imagery, now that was deemed to be offensive or not in keeping with our multicultural society so now they just play the bells and you can stir your tea to it or whatever you fancy.
We'll end up like the Englishmen, strangers in our own country."
The Angelus set to a backdrop of two ladies baking bread, a multicultural lad's day at school, ducks being fed in Limerick City ....... in one way it actually makes me laugh!!!

Way more interesting than those Avonmore Milk ads where we are treated to the disgusting sight of a man's throat at work!!!!!

johnocarroll17 (Limerick) - Posts: 408 - 02/06/2021 11:33:11    2347640

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Replying To Breezy:  "That old catholic Ireland was an awful crap dreary place and the further away we get the better. The church ruined this country and plenty of it's people"
Yes blame the Irish Catholic for all the ills in society. Well there is a proud Irish Catholic, Joe Biden, President of the USA, and one of most powerful men in the world. So Irish Catholics have done ok.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2517 - 02/06/2021 11:40:35    2347642

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Replying To Maroonatic:  "what about us spectators? can we still bellow like bullocks stuck in a ditch before the anthem concludes?"
Brilliant!

johnocarroll17 (Limerick) - Posts: 408 - 02/06/2021 11:40:56    2347643

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Replying To Breezy:  "Wow how incredibly off topic. The new protocol is about respecting the anthem not the opposite but any attempt to make a cheap dig at FG and the "woke".

The likes of you are why this forum is now dead"
Limerick is not a true GAA county. It's posters on here tend to be fairly anti GAA. One of the reasons is imho that Gaelic football is not strong in the county. Hurling is. And this fact affects people like Breezy.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2517 - 02/06/2021 11:42:14    2347646

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I fully support the new anthem protocol. It is overdue imho.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2517 - 02/06/2021 11:46:17    2347651

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Replying To galwayford:  "Limerick is not a true GAA county. It's posters on here tend to be fairly anti GAA. One of the reasons is imho that Gaelic football is not strong in the county. Hurling is. And this fact affects people like Breezy."
Ha not a "true" GAA county. I'm very pro GAA I just don't believe that Irishness is measured in how catholic I am.

I am a true GAA man and an atheist and 100% Irish. Long gone are the days when certain people get to decide who is " true" this or that

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 02/06/2021 12:04:16    2347661

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Replying To galwayford:  "Yes blame the Irish Catholic for all the ills in society. Well there is a proud Irish Catholic, Joe Biden, President of the USA, and one of most powerful men in the world. So Irish Catholics have done ok."
He is an American catholic and the fact his ancestors done well after leaving does not mean that the rose tinted "good old Ireland" was not a dump compared to modern Ireland and something we should be happy to get away from

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 02/06/2021 12:06:24    2347662

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