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Replying To jimbodub:  "
Replying To AfricanGael:  "jimbodub, this is a copy of what you said :

They played an entire championship, full contact, teams crossing borders etc etc but sure we were elite before Christmas weren't we.. somehow shielded from a microscopic virus, all the while a British variant was here running amuck and community transmission of such was rampant... yet we had a full championship.


I think anyone with average intelligence knows what's meant by "all the while".

You are now trying to weasel your way out by denying you meant that at all, instead of just being a man and admitting you were incorrect."
I'm sorry I'm not

I'm merely correcting you misquouting me and re-arranging my words to suit your argument.

Which you've clearly done.. even putting them after being rearranged in quotation marks..

You've accused me of misinformation while actively misquouting me..

In my opinion the British strain was very much here while we were playing championship football as flights were only cancelled on the 20th and the highly contagious nature of the British variant makes it highly likely to have been brought back into the country from the thousands travelling back and forth before the 19th/20th December

If you have evidence to suggest otherwise I'm all ears

But regardless of strain sure County panels were still catching Covid 19.. and yet sure on we went and still played away knowing full well of the impacts already felt by teams"
Bit hard to misquote you when it's a copy and paste of your own post ! :-).

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 812 - 08/04/2021 16:34:56    2336388

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "
Replying To jimbodub:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  "jimbodub, this is a copy of what you said :

They played an entire championship, full contact, teams crossing borders etc etc but sure we were elite before Christmas weren't we.. somehow shielded from a microscopic virus, all the while a British variant was here running amuck and community transmission of such was rampant... yet we had a full championship.


I think anyone with average intelligence knows what's meant by "all the while".

You are now trying to weasel your way out by denying you meant that at all, instead of just being a man and admitting you were incorrect."
I'm sorry I'm not

I'm merely correcting you misquouting me and re-arranging my words to suit your argument.

Which you've clearly done.. even putting them after being rearranged in quotation marks..

You've accused me of misinformation while actively misquouting me..

In my opinion the British strain was very much here while we were playing championship football as flights were only cancelled on the 20th and the highly contagious nature of the British variant makes it highly likely to have been brought back into the country from the thousands travelling back and forth before the 19th/20th December

If you have evidence to suggest otherwise I'm all ears

But regardless of strain sure County panels were still catching Covid 19.. and yet sure on we went and still played away knowing full well of the impacts already felt by teams"
Bit hard to misquote you when it's a copy and paste of your own post ! :-). "]Yet you still managed it...

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20221 - 08/04/2021 16:56:52    2336397

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Replying To jimbodub:  "
Replying To AfricanGael:  "[quote=jimbodub:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  "jimbodub, this is a copy of what you said :

They played an entire championship, full contact, teams crossing borders etc etc but sure we were elite before Christmas weren't we.. somehow shielded from a microscopic virus, all the while a British variant was here running amuck and community transmission of such was rampant... yet we had a full championship.


I think anyone with average intelligence knows what's meant by "all the while".

You are now trying to weasel your way out by denying you meant that at all, instead of just being a man and admitting you were incorrect."
I'm sorry I'm not

I'm merely correcting you misquouting me and re-arranging my words to suit your argument.

Which you've clearly done.. even putting them after being rearranged in quotation marks..

You've accused me of misinformation while actively misquouting me..

In my opinion the British strain was very much here while we were playing championship football as flights were only cancelled on the 20th and the highly contagious nature of the British variant makes it highly likely to have been brought back into the country from the thousands travelling back and forth before the 19th/20th December

If you have evidence to suggest otherwise I'm all ears

But regardless of strain sure County panels were still catching Covid 19.. and yet sure on we went and still played away knowing full well of the impacts already felt by teams"
Bit hard to misquote you when it's a copy and paste of your own post ! :-). "]Yet you still managed it..."]They are your words and now you are even trying to deny it's a genuine copy and paste. I think now Jimbo you are just looking a bit foolish denying what you said. You're just not man enough to admit you were wrong.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 812 - 08/04/2021 17:05:38    2336400

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "
Replying To jimbodub:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  "[quote=jimbodub:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  "jimbodub, this is a copy of what you said :

They played an entire championship, full contact, teams crossing borders etc etc but sure we were elite before Christmas weren't we.. somehow shielded from a microscopic virus, all the while a British variant was here running amuck and community transmission of such was rampant... yet we had a full championship.


I think anyone with average intelligence knows what's meant by "all the while".

You are now trying to weasel your way out by denying you meant that at all, instead of just being a man and admitting you were incorrect."
I'm sorry I'm not

I'm merely correcting you misquouting me and re-arranging my words to suit your argument.

Which you've clearly done.. even putting them after being rearranged in quotation marks..

You've accused me of misinformation while actively misquouting me..

In my opinion the British strain was very much here while we were playing championship football as flights were only cancelled on the 20th and the highly contagious nature of the British variant makes it highly likely to have been brought back into the country from the thousands travelling back and forth before the 19th/20th December

If you have evidence to suggest otherwise I'm all ears

But regardless of strain sure County panels were still catching Covid 19.. and yet sure on we went and still played away knowing full well of the impacts already felt by teams"
Bit hard to misquote you when it's a copy and paste of your own post ! :-). "]Yet you still managed it..."]They are your words and now you are even trying to deny it's a genuine copy and paste. I think now Jimbo you are just looking a bit foolish denying what you said. You're just not man enough to admit you were wrong. "]Ah man I think we've our wires crossed here a bit

I never said the entire championship was played with the British variant in the country. I never

"All the while" was a poor choice of phrasing on my part and you've run with it.

It was open to being misinterpreted.

In my opinion the British strain was absolutely at play while the championship was being played.

It's an opinion. One which you've done nothing to disprove by the way.

"All the while" was in reference to that.. I didn't intend for it to be used as a way to describe the entire championship. Merely a way of highlighting what was at play during the 2020 championship

There was already a strain here anyway doing harm and yet we still carried on even after the impacts of it on a number of counties, we still went ahead with it regardless of the dangers.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20221 - 08/04/2021 17:21:39    2336402

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Why does every thread about Dublin end in disarray

P.Mckenna (Louth) - Posts: 25 - 08/04/2021 17:26:29    2336404

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Replying To P.Mckenna:  "Why does every thread about Dublin end in disarray"
You could say the same about almost every thread lately, not just ones with Dublin in the title.
Will Croke Park sanction Dublin and Monaghan now? or are the 12 weeks bans on the managers by their own county boards all that's going to happen? seems strange when Croke Park will throw the book at a player if he breaks some rule or other.
I see some pundits today calling for bans for the counties involved or a delay on them being let back to full training.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 1214 - 08/04/2021 17:37:38    2336407

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Replying To jimbodub:  "
Replying To AfricanGael:  "[quote=jimbodub:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  "[quote=jimbodub:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  "jimbodub, this is a copy of what you said :

They played an entire championship, full contact, teams crossing borders etc etc but sure we were elite before Christmas weren't we.. somehow shielded from a microscopic virus, all the while a British variant was here running amuck and community transmission of such was rampant... yet we had a full championship.


I think anyone with average intelligence knows what's meant by "all the while".

You are now trying to weasel your way out by denying you meant that at all, instead of just being a man and admitting you were incorrect."
I'm sorry I'm not

I'm merely correcting you misquouting me and re-arranging my words to suit your argument.

Which you've clearly done.. even putting them after being rearranged in quotation marks..

You've accused me of misinformation while actively misquouting me..

In my opinion the British strain was very much here while we were playing championship football as flights were only cancelled on the 20th and the highly contagious nature of the British variant makes it highly likely to have been brought back into the country from the thousands travelling back and forth before the 19th/20th December

If you have evidence to suggest otherwise I'm all ears

But regardless of strain sure County panels were still catching Covid 19.. and yet sure on we went and still played away knowing full well of the impacts already felt by teams"
Bit hard to misquote you when it's a copy and paste of your own post ! :-). "]Yet you still managed it..."]They are your words and now you are even trying to deny it's a genuine copy and paste. I think now Jimbo you are just looking a bit foolish denying what you said. You're just not man enough to admit you were wrong. "]Ah man I think we've our wires crossed here a bit

I never said the entire championship was played with the British variant in the country. I never

"All the while" was a poor choice of phrasing on my part and you've run with it.

It was open to being misinterpreted.

In my opinion the British strain was absolutely at play while the championship was being played.

It's an opinion. One which you've done nothing to disprove by the way.

"All the while" was in reference to that.. I didn't intend for it to be used as a way to describe the entire championship. Merely a way of highlighting what was at play during the 2020 championship

There was already a strain here anyway doing harm and yet we still carried on even after the impacts of it on a number of counties, we still went ahead with it regardless of the dangers."]Well I'm glad you have finally conceded that you made a poor choice and that what you said is not based on any factual data but is just your own personal opinion.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 812 - 08/04/2021 17:39:24    2336408

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "
Replying To jimbodub:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  "[quote=jimbodub:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  "[quote=jimbodub:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  "jimbodub, this is a copy of what you said :

They played an entire championship, full contact, teams crossing borders etc etc but sure we were elite before Christmas weren't we.. somehow shielded from a microscopic virus, all the while a British variant was here running amuck and community transmission of such was rampant... yet we had a full championship.


I think anyone with average intelligence knows what's meant by "all the while".

You are now trying to weasel your way out by denying you meant that at all, instead of just being a man and admitting you were incorrect."
I'm sorry I'm not

I'm merely correcting you misquouting me and re-arranging my words to suit your argument.

Which you've clearly done.. even putting them after being rearranged in quotation marks..

You've accused me of misinformation while actively misquouting me..

In my opinion the British strain was very much here while we were playing championship football as flights were only cancelled on the 20th and the highly contagious nature of the British variant makes it highly likely to have been brought back into the country from the thousands travelling back and forth before the 19th/20th December

If you have evidence to suggest otherwise I'm all ears

But regardless of strain sure County panels were still catching Covid 19.. and yet sure on we went and still played away knowing full well of the impacts already felt by teams"
Bit hard to misquote you when it's a copy and paste of your own post ! :-). "]Yet you still managed it..."]They are your words and now you are even trying to deny it's a genuine copy and paste. I think now Jimbo you are just looking a bit foolish denying what you said. You're just not man enough to admit you were wrong. "]Ah man I think we've our wires crossed here a bit

I never said the entire championship was played with the British variant in the country. I never

"All the while" was a poor choice of phrasing on my part and you've run with it.

It was open to being misinterpreted.

In my opinion the British strain was absolutely at play while the championship was being played.

It's an opinion. One which you've done nothing to disprove by the way.

"All the while" was in reference to that.. I didn't intend for it to be used as a way to describe the entire championship. Merely a way of highlighting what was at play during the 2020 championship

There was already a strain here anyway doing harm and yet we still carried on even after the impacts of it on a number of counties, we still went ahead with it regardless of the dangers."]Well I'm glad you have finally conceded that you made a poor choice and that what you said is not based on any factual data but is just your own personal opinion."]Well there is evidence there to backup my belief that the British variant was at play during the championship as was posted above by lilylanger.

You responded to him by saying something like.. well that's not the entire championship

Well that was never at play, it only was through your own misinterpreted view point.

There is evidence to back up it was floating around during the championship.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20221 - 08/04/2021 18:10:22    2336414

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I see the gaa have listed their plan for league and championship this year. Straight KO in football again with the provincial system still. I was hoping for a full open draw but at least we have something I guess. Dublin should ve straight to an all ireland semi again so should be able to peak at the right time. Ulster minefield as usual and no London or NY again. Hurling still have qualifiers.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 1593 - 08/04/2021 18:15:27    2336419

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Replying To Greengrass:  "Ridiculous nonsense. You articulated a very strong antipathy towards inter county managers. With all due respect what you wrote was cliché ridden and prejudiced. Inter county football and hurling is what generates most of the GAAs income. Have a look at the GAA's accounts for last year. The GAA's income for 2020 was €31.4 million which was down 57% on it's income of €73.9 million from 2019. Over half of the GAA's income for 2020 came in state funding from the government. The funding amounted to €18.5 million. Without that state funding our association would be on it's knees. Without inter county competitions where would the funding come from to develop clubs facilities? We need to continually develop our club facilities in order to enable us to attract young people to play football and hurling. Our association thrives as a result of a combination of the club and county competitions. We need both."
What nonsense. You obviously not very involved in a club.

seamusorinn (USA) - Posts: 138 - 08/04/2021 18:54:21    2336424

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "I see the gaa have listed their plan for league and championship this year. Straight KO in football again with the provincial system still. I was hoping for a full open draw but at least we have something I guess. Dublin should ve straight to an all ireland semi again so should be able to peak at the right time. Ulster minefield as usual and no London or NY again. Hurling still have qualifiers."
Kerry should be straight into an all ireland semi again also ,and so should be able to peak at the right time -:)

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2421 - 08/04/2021 19:18:32    2336432

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Replying To jimbodub:  "
Replying To AfricanGael:  "[quote=jimbodub:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  "[quote=jimbodub:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  "[quote=jimbodub:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  "jimbodub, this is a copy of what you said :

They played an entire championship, full contact, teams crossing borders etc etc but sure we were elite before Christmas weren't we.. somehow shielded from a microscopic virus, all the while a British variant was here running amuck and community transmission of such was rampant... yet we had a full championship.


I think anyone with average intelligence knows what's meant by "all the while".

You are now trying to weasel your way out by denying you meant that at all, instead of just being a man and admitting you were incorrect."
I'm sorry I'm not

I'm merely correcting you misquouting me and re-arranging my words to suit your argument.

Which you've clearly done.. even putting them after being rearranged in quotation marks..

You've accused me of misinformation while actively misquouting me..

In my opinion the British strain was very much here while we were playing championship football as flights were only cancelled on the 20th and the highly contagious nature of the British variant makes it highly likely to have been brought back into the country from the thousands travelling back and forth before the 19th/20th December

If you have evidence to suggest otherwise I'm all ears

But regardless of strain sure County panels were still catching Covid 19.. and yet sure on we went and still played away knowing full well of the impacts already felt by teams"
Bit hard to misquote you when it's a copy and paste of your own post ! :-). "]Yet you still managed it..."]They are your words and now you are even trying to deny it's a genuine copy and paste. I think now Jimbo you are just looking a bit foolish denying what you said. You're just not man enough to admit you were wrong. "]Ah man I think we've our wires crossed here a bit

I never said the entire championship was played with the British variant in the country. I never

"All the while" was a poor choice of phrasing on my part and you've run with it.

It was open to being misinterpreted.

In my opinion the British strain was absolutely at play while the championship was being played.

It's an opinion. One which you've done nothing to disprove by the way.

"All the while" was in reference to that.. I didn't intend for it to be used as a way to describe the entire championship. Merely a way of highlighting what was at play during the 2020 championship

There was already a strain here anyway doing harm and yet we still carried on even after the impacts of it on a number of counties, we still went ahead with it regardless of the dangers."]Well I'm glad you have finally conceded that you made a poor choice and that what you said is not based on any factual data but is just your own personal opinion."]Well there is evidence there to backup my belief that the British variant was at play during the championship as was posted above by lilylanger.

You responded to him by saying something like.. well that's not the entire championship

Well that was never at play, it only was through your own misinterpreted view point.

There is evidence to back up it was floating around during the championship."]

"Evidence" which you conveniently cannot produce. Even if, and it's a big if, because the word "likely" is far from definitive, that there was a case or were cases which came into the country on the 12th or 14th of December, i'm sure you're aware the only outstanding game at that point was the final. But I suppose in Dublin the "entire championship" is really only the final.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 812 - 08/04/2021 19:24:22    2336438

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I'd say we could have more suspensions before the week is out!

Belclare (Galway) - Posts: 406 - 08/04/2021 19:33:02    2336441

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Replying To TheJackel:  "Nonsense. Club grants from Croke park for club facilities are minimal. The majority of development of facilities by clubs is through National lottery grants from Government and fundraising.
The biggest hole in most county boards accounts last year came from lack of money from club championships which make up large of their annual funding which goes where? Into the county teams.

If there was no county football tomorrow, financially every club in the country would manage the very best."
100%. You hear plenty of talk about Croke park reinvesting their money ,and perhaps they do,but they certainly dont give it back to clubs. I did a 10 year stint as treasurer of our own club and in all that time we never received a red cent from Croke park or the County board for that matter. I would say well in excess of 130,000 euro went the other way though in the same time frame between registration ,insurance, affiliation,coaching and games etc and thats before you start counting ticket sales.I realise the show has to be kept on the road and that it costs money to do that but your right when you say too much of it is going to inter county. Gate reciepts from club championships should go back to clubs

UtahBlaine (Galway) - Posts: 76 - 08/04/2021 19:45:01    2336445

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "I see the gaa have listed their plan for league and championship this year. Straight KO in football again with the provincial system still. I was hoping for a full open draw but at least we have something I guess. Dublin should ve straight to an all ireland semi again so should be able to peak at the right time. Ulster minefield as usual and no London or NY again. Hurling still have qualifiers."
The provincial system is outdated and is not fair but we are all sick talking about it, backdoor system helped but with straight knockout it's a minefield in Ulster, Dublin and Kerry should breeze through to the All ireland semi's, can't see Kerry slipping up again,
Connacht is less certain, flip a coin Mayo/Galway
Ulster? who knows, depends on the draw, I'd make Tyrone favourites, ourselves second fav depending on what form we are after lockdown, the reality is though in Ulster most teams are capable of beating each other in a one off do or die match, so it will be great to watch but is an unfair outdated format.
I'd rather they forgot the league this year and had a normal championship with the back door system or else an open draw.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 1214 - 08/04/2021 19:50:18    2336448

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Replying To superbluedub:  "Kerry should be straight into an all ireland semi again also ,and so should be able to peak at the right time -:)"
Kerry have to peak for Cork. Dublin have to peak for two games now to win Sam. Kerry have 3 games to pick for. Galway Mayo have 3 or 4 and Ulster teams have to peak for start of ulster championship.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 1593 - 08/04/2021 20:36:57    2336460

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "
Replying To jimbodub:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  "[quote=jimbodub:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  "[quote=jimbodub:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  "[quote=jimbodub:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  "jimbodub, this is a copy of what you said :

They played an entire championship, full contact, teams crossing borders etc etc but sure we were elite before Christmas weren't we.. somehow shielded from a microscopic virus, all the while a British variant was here running amuck and community transmission of such was rampant... yet we had a full championship.


I think anyone with average intelligence knows what's meant by "all the while".

You are now trying to weasel your way out by denying you meant that at all, instead of just being a man and admitting you were incorrect."
I'm sorry I'm not

I'm merely correcting you misquouting me and re-arranging my words to suit your argument.

Which you've clearly done.. even putting them after being rearranged in quotation marks..

You've accused me of misinformation while actively misquouting me..

In my opinion the British strain was very much here while we were playing championship football as flights were only cancelled on the 20th and the highly contagious nature of the British variant makes it highly likely to have been brought back into the country from the thousands travelling back and forth before the 19th/20th December

If you have evidence to suggest otherwise I'm all ears

But regardless of strain sure County panels were still catching Covid 19.. and yet sure on we went and still played away knowing full well of the impacts already felt by teams"
Bit hard to misquote you when it's a copy and paste of your own post ! :-). "]Yet you still managed it..."]They are your words and now you are even trying to deny it's a genuine copy and paste. I think now Jimbo you are just looking a bit foolish denying what you said. You're just not man enough to admit you were wrong. "]Ah man I think we've our wires crossed here a bit

I never said the entire championship was played with the British variant in the country. I never

"All the while" was a poor choice of phrasing on my part and you've run with it.

It was open to being misinterpreted.

In my opinion the British strain was absolutely at play while the championship was being played.

It's an opinion. One which you've done nothing to disprove by the way.

"All the while" was in reference to that.. I didn't intend for it to be used as a way to describe the entire championship. Merely a way of highlighting what was at play during the 2020 championship

There was already a strain here anyway doing harm and yet we still carried on even after the impacts of it on a number of counties, we still went ahead with it regardless of the dangers."]Well I'm glad you have finally conceded that you made a poor choice and that what you said is not based on any factual data but is just your own personal opinion."]Well there is evidence there to backup my belief that the British variant was at play during the championship as was posted above by lilylanger.

You responded to him by saying something like.. well that's not the entire championship

Well that was never at play, it only was through your own misinterpreted view point.

There is evidence to back up it was floating around during the championship."]

"Evidence" which you conveniently cannot produce. Even if, and it's a big if, because the word "likely" is far from definitive, that there was a case or were cases which came into the country on the 12th or 14th of December, i'm sure you're aware the only outstanding game at that point was the final. But I suppose in Dublin the "entire championship" is really only the final."]There you go again with this entire championship again ;)

It certainly was in 2020

Mayo gave Dublin a good game up until the 61st minute or so

Everything else was a cake walk with Dublin neatest rivals not even making it out of their province

But sure that's their problem

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20221 - 08/04/2021 20:38:56    2336461

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "Kerry have to peak for Cork. Dublin have to peak for two games now to win Sam. Kerry have 3 games to pick for. Galway Mayo have 3 or 4 and Ulster teams have to peak for start of ulster championship."
Disagree Kerry do not have to peak for Cork , agree with the rest

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2421 - 08/04/2021 21:29:15    2336469

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Ulster is the weakest Provence now , all poor teams there

jacktheboy (Donegal) - Posts: 77 - 08/04/2021 21:49:16    2336479

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Replying To superbluedub:  "Disagree Kerry do not have to peak for Cork , agree with the rest"
Kerry thought that last year, look what happened.

cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 544 - 08/04/2021 22:46:32    2336497

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