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Replying To AfricanGael:  ""They played an entire championship, full contact, teams crossing borders etc etc but sure we were elite before Christmas weren't we.. somehow shielded from a microscopic virus, all the while a British variant was here running amuck and community transmission of such was rampant... yet we had a full championship"

Incorrect, there were no cases of the "British Variant" in Ireland at that time."
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/coronavirus-new-uk-variant-of-covid-19-confirmed-in-ireland-as-1-025-new-cases-reported-1.4445386

It was.

lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 644 - 08/04/2021 12:38:29    2336295

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Replying To jimbodub:  "
Replying To AfricanGael:  ""They played an entire championship, full contact, teams crossing borders etc etc but sure we were elite before Christmas weren't we.. somehow shielded from a microscopic virus, all the while a British variant was here running amuck and community transmission of such was rampant... yet we had a full championship"

Incorrect, there were no cases of the "British Variant" in Ireland at that time."
Oh right

So suspending flights from the UK on the 20th December kept it out then?

Sure it wasn't here..

Thousands of people travelling back and forth before the 20th for Christmas and business didn't bring it back.. sure."
Well I only go by the facts, that there were no cases in Ireland at the time which is a million miles from your speculation that "a British variant was here running amuck".

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 812 - 08/04/2021 12:42:46    2336297

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Replying To lilylanger:  "
Replying To AfricanGael:  ""They played an entire championship, full contact, teams crossing borders etc etc but sure we were elite before Christmas weren't we.. somehow shielded from a microscopic virus, all the while a British variant was here running amuck and community transmission of such was rampant... yet we had a full championship"

Incorrect, there were no cases of the "British Variant" in Ireland at that time."
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/coronavirus-new-uk-variant-of-covid-19-confirmed-in-ireland-as-1-025-new-cases-reported-1.4445386

It was."
That's a link from after the Championship was played, so it's totally irrelevant.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 812 - 08/04/2021 12:46:18    2336298

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "Hopefully the guards will find out what went on in Monaghan and prosecutions will be pending, Monaghan should be thrown out of the Championship this year, disgraceful behaviour in the middle of a global pandemic."
Agreed. No issue with a season ban for Monaghan.
The floodlights were on on more than one occasion in Corduff over the last few weeks

Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 737 - 08/04/2021 12:48:14    2336299

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "
Replying To lilylanger:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  ""They played an entire championship, full contact, teams crossing borders etc etc but sure we were elite before Christmas weren't we.. somehow shielded from a microscopic virus, all the while a British variant was here running amuck and community transmission of such was rampant... yet we had a full championship"

Incorrect, there were no cases of the "British Variant" in Ireland at that time."
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/coronavirus-new-uk-variant-of-covid-19-confirmed-in-ireland-as-1-025-new-cases-reported-1.4445386

It was."
That's a link from after the Championship was played, so it's totally irrelevant."]In case you didn't actually read the article which seems likely, here's the bit that matters to your argument


Testing recent arrivals
The HSE is making arrangements to test recent arrivals from the UK, Dr Holohan said. Dr Cillian de Gascun, director of the NVRL, said the samples tested were from last weekend, so the variant of the virus was likely acquired around December 12th-14th.

lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 644 - 08/04/2021 12:58:06    2336304

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "
Replying To lilylanger:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  ""They played an entire championship, full contact, teams crossing borders etc etc but sure we were elite before Christmas weren't we.. somehow shielded from a microscopic virus, all the while a British variant was here running amuck and community transmission of such was rampant... yet we had a full championship"

Incorrect, there were no cases of the "British Variant" in Ireland at that time."
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/coronavirus-new-uk-variant-of-covid-19-confirmed-in-ireland-as-1-025-new-cases-reported-1.4445386

It was."
That's a link from after the Championship was played, so it's totally irrelevant."]Think of the numbers that travelled back and forth between London and Ireland in the run up to Christmas before flights were suspended on the 20th December.. it was the British variant responsible for the large increase in cases in Ireland post Christmas

Bit of commonsense can also be applied without needing an article to copy and paste. Of course the British variant was here..

All Ireland played on 19th Dec and they are forced to cancel flights on the 20th....

The British variant didn't decide to show up after the final whistle went on the 19th December. It was here spreading while the championship was on, brought in by the thousands that travelled back for Christmas before they started panicking and pointlessly suspending flights. . The horse had already long bolted.

But listen.. believe what you want

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20221 - 08/04/2021 13:00:54    2336305

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Replying To lilylanger:  "
Replying To AfricanGael:  "[quote=lilylanger:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  ""They played an entire championship, full contact, teams crossing borders etc etc but sure we were elite before Christmas weren't we.. somehow shielded from a microscopic virus, all the while a British variant was here running amuck and community transmission of such was rampant... yet we had a full championship"

Incorrect, there were no cases of the "British Variant" in Ireland at that time."
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/coronavirus-new-uk-variant-of-covid-19-confirmed-in-ireland-as-1-025-new-cases-reported-1.4445386

It was."
That's a link from after the Championship was played, so it's totally irrelevant."]In case you didn't actually read the article which seems likely, here's the bit that matters to your argument


Testing recent arrivals
The HSE is making arrangements to test recent arrivals from the UK, Dr Holohan said. Dr Cillian de Gascun, director of the NVRL, said the samples tested were from last weekend, so the variant of the virus was likely acquired around December 12th-14th.
"]Highly likely indeed ;)

But sure Captain too cowardly to post under his County allegiance only deals in facts don't you know

Hahahaha

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20221 - 08/04/2021 13:10:19    2336306

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At this stage mayve we should all use a similar message of outrage? "I am totally disappointed and outraged at .............................(just enter the offending counties/clubs name) Senior Inter-County (club) Football team training in total disregard for public health and the law."

Sadly we cannot help ourselves can we? We need draconian sanctions or they will be imposed from outside and rightly so on the entire organisation if it cannot nor will not provide leadership on this. I would say the clock is ticking GAA, better wake up and smell the coffee.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4592 - 08/04/2021 13:12:53    2336307

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Replying To jimbodub:  "
Replying To AfricanGael:  "[quote=lilylanger:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  ""They played an entire championship, full contact, teams crossing borders etc etc but sure we were elite before Christmas weren't we.. somehow shielded from a microscopic virus, all the while a British variant was here running amuck and community transmission of such was rampant... yet we had a full championship"

Incorrect, there were no cases of the "British Variant" in Ireland at that time."
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/coronavirus-new-uk-variant-of-covid-19-confirmed-in-ireland-as-1-025-new-cases-reported-1.4445386

It was."
That's a link from after the Championship was played, so it's totally irrelevant."]Think of the numbers that travelled back and forth between London and Ireland in the run up to Christmas before flights were suspended on the 20th December.. it was the British variant responsible for the large increase in cases in Ireland post Christmas

Bit of commonsense can also be applied without needing an article to copy and paste. Of course the British variant was here..

All Ireland played on 19th Dec and they are forced to cancel flights on the 20th....

The British variant didn't decide to show up after the final whistle went on the 19th December. It was here spreading while the championship was on, brought in by the thousands that travelled back for Christmas before they started panicking and pointlessly suspending flights. . The horse had already long bolted.

But listen.. believe what you want"]You can speculate all you want, but that's all it is, unfounded speculation and misinformation. Show me the evidence that "an entire championship was played while a British variant was here running amuck and community transmission of such was rampant" and i'll gladly agree that you're right and i'm wrong.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 812 - 08/04/2021 13:18:50    2336309

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "
Replying To lilylanger:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  ""They played an entire championship, full contact, teams crossing borders etc etc but sure we were elite before Christmas weren't we.. somehow shielded from a microscopic virus, all the while a British variant was here running amuck and community transmission of such was rampant... yet we had a full championship"

Incorrect, there were no cases of the "British Variant" in Ireland at that time."
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/coronavirus-new-uk-variant-of-covid-19-confirmed-in-ireland-as-1-025-new-cases-reported-1.4445386

It was."
That's a link from after the Championship was played, so it's totally irrelevant."]Your ignorant of the facts that's all.
If ignorance is bliss , ''tis folly to be wise.

Carry on telling yourself what suits you though. Gobsh1te

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 1905 - 08/04/2021 13:23:25    2336311

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Replying To lilylanger:  "
Replying To AfricanGael:  "[quote=lilylanger:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  ""They played an entire championship, full contact, teams crossing borders etc etc but sure we were elite before Christmas weren't we.. somehow shielded from a microscopic virus, all the while a British variant was here running amuck and community transmission of such was rampant... yet we had a full championship"

Incorrect, there were no cases of the "British Variant" in Ireland at that time."
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/coronavirus-new-uk-variant-of-covid-19-confirmed-in-ireland-as-1-025-new-cases-reported-1.4445386

It was."
That's a link from after the Championship was played, so it's totally irrelevant."]In case you didn't actually read the article which seems likely, here's the bit that matters to your argument


Testing recent arrivals
The HSE is making arrangements to test recent arrivals from the UK, Dr Holohan said. Dr Cillian de Gascun, director of the NVRL, said the samples tested were from last weekend, so the variant of the virus was likely acquired around December 12th-14th.
"]"Likely" , so the entire championship was played in a week or under was it ? :-)

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 812 - 08/04/2021 13:24:06    2336312

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Replying To jimbodub:  "
Replying To lilylanger:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  "[quote=lilylanger:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  ""They played an entire championship, full contact, teams crossing borders etc etc but sure we were elite before Christmas weren't we.. somehow shielded from a microscopic virus, all the while a British variant was here running amuck and community transmission of such was rampant... yet we had a full championship"

Incorrect, there were no cases of the "British Variant" in Ireland at that time."
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/coronavirus-new-uk-variant-of-covid-19-confirmed-in-ireland-as-1-025-new-cases-reported-1.4445386

It was."
That's a link from after the Championship was played, so it's totally irrelevant."]In case you didn't actually read the article which seems likely, here's the bit that matters to your argument


Testing recent arrivals
The HSE is making arrangements to test recent arrivals from the UK, Dr Holohan said. Dr Cillian de Gascun, director of the NVRL, said the samples tested were from last weekend, so the variant of the virus was likely acquired around December 12th-14th.
"]Highly likely indeed ;)

But sure Captain too cowardly to post under his County allegiance only deals in facts don't you know

Hahahaha"]I know you don't like to be called out for spreading misinformation. Once I see you using words like "cowardly" and "County allegiance" I know I have you well beaten. Think of me as your educator, not your enemy.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 812 - 08/04/2021 13:29:24    2336314

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Even though I don't agree with teams being hung, drawn and quartered as much as they have been or will be in the media and outdoor training should've been allowed,in my opinion, commence a lot sooner than the 3rd week of April(officially) The rules are rules and should be followed by all as annoying as they are.

I just wish the media would give as much scrutiny to other large(r) outdoor gatherings that shouldn't be happening either, ahem, funerals and the like.

Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2415 - 08/04/2021 14:01:25    2336323

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "
Replying To jimbodub:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  "[quote=lilylanger:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  ""They played an entire championship, full contact, teams crossing borders etc etc but sure we were elite before Christmas weren't we.. somehow shielded from a microscopic virus, all the while a British variant was here running amuck and community transmission of such was rampant... yet we had a full championship"

Incorrect, there were no cases of the "British Variant" in Ireland at that time."
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/coronavirus-new-uk-variant-of-covid-19-confirmed-in-ireland-as-1-025-new-cases-reported-1.4445386

It was."
That's a link from after the Championship was played, so it's totally irrelevant."]Think of the numbers that travelled back and forth between London and Ireland in the run up to Christmas before flights were suspended on the 20th December.. it was the British variant responsible for the large increase in cases in Ireland post Christmas

Bit of commonsense can also be applied without needing an article to copy and paste. Of course the British variant was here..

All Ireland played on 19th Dec and they are forced to cancel flights on the 20th....

The British variant didn't decide to show up after the final whistle went on the 19th December. It was here spreading while the championship was on, brought in by the thousands that travelled back for Christmas before they started panicking and pointlessly suspending flights. . The horse had already long bolted.

But listen.. believe what you want"]You can speculate all you want, but that's all it is, unfounded speculation and misinformation. Show me the evidence that "an entire championship was played while a British variant was here running amuck and community transmission of such was rampant" and i'll gladly agree that you're right and i'm wrong."]"an entire championship was played while a British variant was here running amuck and community transmission of such was rampant"
Why are you quoting a sentence you re-arranged yourself?
Plus variant was found in the UK back as far as September, plenty of people travelling back to Ireland had that variant from then on

tommy132 (Mayo) - Posts: 443 - 08/04/2021 14:17:42    2336331

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Replying To tommy132:  "
Replying To AfricanGael:  "[quote=jimbodub:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  "[quote=lilylanger:  "[quote=AfricanGael:  ""They played an entire championship, full contact, teams crossing borders etc etc but sure we were elite before Christmas weren't we.. somehow shielded from a microscopic virus, all the while a British variant was here running amuck and community transmission of such was rampant... yet we had a full championship"

Incorrect, there were no cases of the "British Variant" in Ireland at that time."
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/coronavirus-new-uk-variant-of-covid-19-confirmed-in-ireland-as-1-025-new-cases-reported-1.4445386

It was."
That's a link from after the Championship was played, so it's totally irrelevant."]Think of the numbers that travelled back and forth between London and Ireland in the run up to Christmas before flights were suspended on the 20th December.. it was the British variant responsible for the large increase in cases in Ireland post Christmas

Bit of commonsense can also be applied without needing an article to copy and paste. Of course the British variant was here..

All Ireland played on 19th Dec and they are forced to cancel flights on the 20th....

The British variant didn't decide to show up after the final whistle went on the 19th December. It was here spreading while the championship was on, brought in by the thousands that travelled back for Christmas before they started panicking and pointlessly suspending flights. . The horse had already long bolted.

But listen.. believe what you want"]You can speculate all you want, but that's all it is, unfounded speculation and misinformation. Show me the evidence that "an entire championship was played while a British variant was here running amuck and community transmission of such was rampant" and i'll gladly agree that you're right and i'm wrong."]"an entire championship was played while a British variant was here running amuck and community transmission of such was rampant"
Why are you quoting a sentence you re-arranged yourself?
Plus variant was found in the UK back as far as September, plenty of people travelling back to Ireland had that variant from then on"]I'm simply quoting what the man said. What part didn't he say ? Just because people may have been travelling doesn't mean they had the new variant . Thankfully the majority of people haven't had covid or any variant. Where's your evidence that "plenty of people travelling back to Ireland had that variant from then on" or is it more unfounded speculation ?

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 812 - 08/04/2021 14:29:12    2336336

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I never said

"an entire championship was played while a British variant was here running amuck and community transmission of such was rampant"

Please now.. for an educator ;)

You shouldn't really be making up quotes and rearranging words to suit, you should be willing to copy and paste a quote accurately. Not wing what you thought I said as evidence to help support your inaccurate assumption and even place it in quotation marks... tut tut.

Talk about misinformation :)

I do agree though that my wording was open to being misinterpreted. Which it was by you.

The Championship was deemed safe to play under level 5 restrictions, despite proven outbreaks impacting inter County panels. We were still deemed to be elite at the time.. strange that. Even with the virus spreading amongst inter County players..

The British variant was in Ireland during full contact championship conditions, while we were deemed elite at the time, fast forward a few weeks and all of a sudden a small non contact kick around involving 9 players in open air conditions while photographed standing 2+ meters apart is front page news... bigger news than a covid impacted Sligo panel having to pull out of the championship, because they couldn't field a team.. but sure the show still went on. Full contact, inter County travel from all over the country.

It's all a bit silly now, and the hyperbole reactions while ignoring the conditions acriss the 2020 championship is rather questionable.

You're right. There's no evidence to suggest the British strain was here for the entire duration but there is proven evidence to show that regarless of strain, the virus was still impacting panels but sure wasn't it great to have something to watch...

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20221 - 08/04/2021 15:20:32    2336348

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jimbodub, this is a copy of what you said :

They played an entire championship, full contact, teams crossing borders etc etc but sure we were elite before Christmas weren't we.. somehow shielded from a microscopic virus, all the while a British variant was here running amuck and community transmission of such was rampant... yet we had a full championship.


I think anyone with average intelligence knows what's meant by "all the while".

You are now trying to weasel your way out by denying you meant that at all, instead of just being a man and admitting you were incorrect.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 812 - 08/04/2021 16:09:15    2336370

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Replying To greysoil:  "I think that's what's called 'taking one for the team'"
Fair play to Banty.

lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 644 - 08/04/2021 16:13:20    2336373

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The exact definition of "all the while" is : During the entire time. So I hope that puts that matter to bed.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 812 - 08/04/2021 16:17:25    2336376

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "jimbodub, this is a copy of what you said :

They played an entire championship, full contact, teams crossing borders etc etc but sure we were elite before Christmas weren't we.. somehow shielded from a microscopic virus, all the while a British variant was here running amuck and community transmission of such was rampant... yet we had a full championship.


I think anyone with average intelligence knows what's meant by "all the while".

You are now trying to weasel your way out by denying you meant that at all, instead of just being a man and admitting you were incorrect."
I'm sorry I'm not

I'm merely correcting you misquouting me and re-arranging my words to suit your argument.

Which you've clearly done.. even putting them after being rearranged in quotation marks..

You've accused me of misinformation while actively misquouting me..

In my opinion the British strain was very much here while we were playing championship football as flights were only cancelled on the 20th and the highly contagious nature of the British variant makes it highly likely to have been brought back into the country from the thousands travelling back and forth before the 19th/20th December

If you have evidence to suggest otherwise I'm all ears

But regardless of strain sure County panels were still catching Covid 19.. and yet sure on we went and still played away knowing full well of the impacts already felt by teams

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20221 - 08/04/2021 16:24:40    2336383

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