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RTE is a closed shop full stop, knowing who gets what job is as predictable as knowing that it's going to rain sooner rather than later. Knowing who was going to take over from Michael Lyster and Sean O'Rourke in advance belittled the job, it also belittled those hoping to be selected for consideration, apparently there is no openness and transparency within the system.+.
It appears as if Sara Mc Inerney kept SOR's chair warm for Clair Byrne, at the same time she was serving her apprenticeship for the next move, it happened and good luck to her, but where was the advert. and the interviews. They moved David McCulloch who is imo, is a top drawer forensic investigating journalist from prime time slot to 6-01 News, is that a promotion, demotion, or a move sideways, either way sure it will leave a vacancy to be filled with Prime Time.?
I could never get my head around why they removed "Breakfast Republic" from the early morning 2fm breakfast show, it had huge following, plenty of ad lib stuff a variety of entertainment massive listenership numbers, only to be replaced with more music, less chat or entertainment.
I watched the last few minutes of Evanne ni ChuIlinn Saturday night presenting the gaa matches of the day, the pundits were Pat Spillane and Sean Cavanagh, what a load of rubbish, what we were watching was heavily glamourized, but lacked content, gone was the Pat Spillane and Sean Cavanagh we all once new, Pat in particular seemed to have been air brushed, he had a few elocution crash courses it seems, gone was the once familiar body language, the ad lib stuff even his very familiar Kerry accent had quietened, the d b levels have reached an all time low. Sean Cavanagh wasn't his familiar self either they were either reading from an auto que or from a minimised script.

Out of one frying pan, into a different fire as they say.
supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2064 - 07/09/2020 15:39:46
"Row over jobs in RTE as staff furious over plan for new Prime Time Host."

David Mc Cullagh's move to 6-01 News didn't make sense to me at first now it does. Surprise, surprise.
A well-known national journalist has completed a screen test and is favoured to take the job vacated by David McCullagh who has moved to the Six One News.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2067 - 15/09/2020 21:48:21    2292354

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Replying To supersub15:  "RTE is a closed shop full stop, knowing who gets what job is as predictable as knowing that it's going to rain sooner rather than later. Knowing who was going to take over from Michael Lyster and Sean O'Rourke in advance belittled the job, it also belittled those hoping to be selected for consideration, apparently there is no openness and transparency within the system.
It appears as if Sara Mc Inerney kept SOR's chair warm for Clair Byrne, at the same time she was serving her apprenticeship for the next move, it happened and good luck to her, but where was the advert. and the interviews. They moved David McCulloch who is imo, is a top drawer forensic investigating journalist from prime time slot to 6-01 News, is that a promotion, demotion, or a move sideways, either way sure it will leave a vacancy to be filled with Prime Time.?
I could never get my head around why they removed "Breakfast Republic" from the early morning 2fm breakfast show, it had huge following, plenty of ad lib stuff a variety of entertainment massive listenership numbers, only to be replaced with more music, less chat or entertainment.
I watched the last few minutes of Evanne ni ChuIlinn Saturday night presenting the gaa matches of the day, the pundits were Pat Spillane and Sean Cavanagh, what a load of rubbish, what we were watching was heavily glamourized, but lacked content, gone was the Pat Spillane and Sean Cavanagh we all once new, Pat in particular seemed to have been air brushed, he had a few elocution crash courses it seems, gone was the once familiar body language, the ad lib stuff even his very familiar Kerry accent had quietened, the d b levels have reached an all time low. Sean Cavanagh wasn't his familiar self either they were either reading from an auto que or from a minimised script.

Out of one frying pan, into a different fire as they say."
You literally described how almost every successful large business/corporation, political party (and some sports teams) operate. How does it belittle the job having someone being groomed for a role? It makes total sense to me.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 2853 - 15/09/2020 22:20:57    2292364

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My head hurts.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 864 - 15/09/2020 22:51:20    2292371

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Replying To supersub15:  "RTE is a closed shop full stop, knowing who gets what job is as predictable as knowing that it's going to rain sooner rather than later. Knowing who was going to take over from Michael Lyster and Sean O'Rourke in advance belittled the job, it also belittled those hoping to be selected for consideration, apparently there is no openness and transparency within the system.+.
It appears as if Sara Mc Inerney kept SOR's chair warm for Clair Byrne, at the same time she was serving her apprenticeship for the next move, it happened and good luck to her, but where was the advert. and the interviews. They moved David McCulloch who is imo, is a top drawer forensic investigating journalist from prime time slot to 6-01 News, is that a promotion, demotion, or a move sideways, either way sure it will leave a vacancy to be filled with Prime Time.?
I could never get my head around why they removed "Breakfast Republic" from the early morning 2fm breakfast show, it had huge following, plenty of ad lib stuff a variety of entertainment massive listenership numbers, only to be replaced with more music, less chat or entertainment.
I watched the last few minutes of Evanne ni ChuIlinn Saturday night presenting the gaa matches of the day, the pundits were Pat Spillane and Sean Cavanagh, what a load of rubbish, what we were watching was heavily glamourized, but lacked content, gone was the Pat Spillane and Sean Cavanagh we all once new, Pat in particular seemed to have been air brushed, he had a few elocution crash courses it seems, gone was the once familiar body language, the ad lib stuff even his very familiar Kerry accent had quietened, the d b levels have reached an all time low. Sean Cavanagh wasn't his familiar self either they were either reading from an auto que or from a minimised script.

Out of one frying pan, into a different fire as they say.
supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2064 - 07/09/2020 15:39:46
"Row over jobs in RTE as staff furious over plan for new Prime Time Host."

David Mc Cullagh's move to 6-01 News didn't make sense to me at first now it does. Surprise, surprise.
A well-known national journalist has completed a screen test and is favoured to take the job vacated by David McCullagh who has moved to the Six One News."
I agree, RTE is as stale as most of its moribund vierwers. These viewers weekly weep at sensitive Ryans offerings and clog up twitter with meaningless gushings. We have cookery programs presented by well connected but unqualified cooks. Well connected overpaid political heavyweights with an even more limited capacity to ask the right questions. Then again we expect too much from our state run broadcaster, when you look at the quality of our political class we shouldnt be so demanding. Thankfully we have TG4 for culture, art and real sport.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4364 - 16/09/2020 00:21:28    2292378

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TG4 are good but they only represent a limited segment of Irelands population and we pay well for it. RTE is shocking, the money spent on it is not value for money. We look across at the BBC and thats struggling even though its one of the biggest in the World. Theyve lost their way and there's a huge review and changes coming. Does Ireland have the will to follow suit with RTE? It isn't too late

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1265 - 16/09/2020 14:12:34    2292483

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I don't suppose that there will ne many TV licence inspectors checking homes these days!

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 5785 - 16/09/2020 17:31:56    2292544

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Replying To arock:  "
Replying To supersub15:  "RTE is a closed shop full stop, knowing who gets what job is as predictable as knowing that it's going to rain sooner rather than later. Knowing who was going to take over from Michael Lyster and Sean O'Rourke in advance belittled the job, it also belittled those hoping to be selected for consideration, apparently there is no openness and transparency within the system.+.
It appears as if Sara Mc Inerney kept SOR's chair warm for Clair Byrne, at the same time she was serving her apprenticeship for the next move, it happened and good luck to her, but where was the advert. and the interviews. They moved David McCulloch who is imo, is a top drawer forensic investigating journalist from prime time slot to 6-01 News, is that a promotion, demotion, or a move sideways, either way sure it will leave a vacancy to be filled with Prime Time.?
I could never get my head around why they removed "Breakfast Republic" from the early morning 2fm breakfast show, it had huge following, plenty of ad lib stuff a variety of entertainment massive listenership numbers, only to be replaced with more music, less chat or entertainment.
I watched the last few minutes of Evanne ni ChuIlinn Saturday night presenting the gaa matches of the day, the pundits were Pat Spillane and Sean Cavanagh, what a load of rubbish, what we were watching was heavily glamourized, but lacked content, gone was the Pat Spillane and Sean Cavanagh we all once new, Pat in particular seemed to have been air brushed, he had a few elocution crash courses it seems, gone was the once familiar body language, the ad lib stuff even his very familiar Kerry accent had quietened, the d b levels have reached an all time low. Sean Cavanagh wasn't his familiar self either they were either reading from an auto que or from a minimised script.

Out of one frying pan, into a different fire as they say.
supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2064 - 07/09/2020 15:39:46
"Row over jobs in RTE as staff furious over plan for new Prime Time Host."

David Mc Cullagh's move to 6-01 News didn't make sense to me at first now it does. Surprise, surprise.
A well-known national journalist has completed a screen test and is favoured to take the job vacated by David McCullagh who has moved to the Six One News."
I agree, RTE is as stale as most of its moribund vierwers. These viewers weekly weep at sensitive Ryans offerings and clog up twitter with meaningless gushings. We have cookery programs presented by well connected but unqualified cooks. Well connected overpaid political heavyweights with an even more limited capacity to ask the right questions. Then again we expect too much from our state run broadcaster, when you look at the quality of our political class we shouldnt be so demanding. Thankfully we have TG4 for culture, art and real sport."
Dee Forbes seemingly was pretty successful in previous employments and held many serious job titles, she appeared to have an endless budget at her disposal to see her projects through successfully, she worked mostly from an international platform with a team of professionals, from what I gather.

I don't think she will have the same success rate with RTE, I hope I'm wrong, I see RTE as being a big challenge for her full stop, reason being RTE is too small a platform, it's too parochial, it's far too political, it has no ownership of broad band, it's problems are deep rooted and historic, it's a project that's fragmented more so than is broken, the project repair cost was always in deficit before the repairs began and lacked professionalism, that's why I say I don't think Dee Forbes will have the same success rate with RTE, the reason being her previous projects were never challenged with a budget cost deficit or never wanted for professional assistants in her team.

As far as I can see, RTE lacks openness and transparency, it has tunnel vision, it's a one way street, RTE is heavily state funded by tax payer's money, there's 1200 ish, tax payers in RTE, most of which will never get off the bottom rung of the ladder, they deserve better than that.
My experience of state, semi state, and indeed private Company employers, mostly had an open and transparent policy, they had a door always open policy, they had a promotion prospect policy, they had an all jobs vacant advertising policy, they had a best person gets the job policy.

RTE need's a business partner perhaps a merge, if it gets through this recession it will get through any recession, - - I might then have second thoughts about Dee Forbes as CEO, of RTE.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2067 - 16/09/2020 21:11:54    2292573

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "I don't suppose that there will ne many TV licence inspectors checking homes these days!"
I wouldn't think so, not sure there's that many of them anyway, what do you reckon GreenandRed, could this be Mayo's year? Dubs could be out of it if they are locked in/down.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 864 - 16/09/2020 22:00:38    2292582

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Replying To supersub15:  "
Replying To arock:  "[quote=supersub15:  "RTE is a closed shop full stop, knowing who gets what job is as predictable as knowing that it's going to rain sooner rather than later. Knowing who was going to take over from Michael Lyster and Sean O'Rourke in advance belittled the job, it also belittled those hoping to be selected for consideration, apparently there is no openness and transparency within the system.+.
It appears as if Sara Mc Inerney kept SOR's chair warm for Clair Byrne, at the same time she was serving her apprenticeship for the next move, it happened and good luck to her, but where was the advert. and the interviews. They moved David McCulloch who is imo, is a top drawer forensic investigating journalist from prime time slot to 6-01 News, is that a promotion, demotion, or a move sideways, either way sure it will leave a vacancy to be filled with Prime Time.?
I could never get my head around why they removed "Breakfast Republic" from the early morning 2fm breakfast show, it had huge following, plenty of ad lib stuff a variety of entertainment massive listenership numbers, only to be replaced with more music, less chat or entertainment.
I watched the last few minutes of Evanne ni ChuIlinn Saturday night presenting the gaa matches of the day, the pundits were Pat Spillane and Sean Cavanagh, what a load of rubbish, what we were watching was heavily glamourized, but lacked content, gone was the Pat Spillane and Sean Cavanagh we all once new, Pat in particular seemed to have been air brushed, he had a few elocution crash courses it seems, gone was the once familiar body language, the ad lib stuff even his very familiar Kerry accent had quietened, the d b levels have reached an all time low. Sean Cavanagh wasn't his familiar self either they were either reading from an auto que or from a minimised script.

Out of one frying pan, into a different fire as they say.
supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2064 - 07/09/2020 15:39:46
"Row over jobs in RTE as staff furious over plan for new Prime Time Host."

David Mc Cullagh's move to 6-01 News didn't make sense to me at first now it does. Surprise, surprise.
A well-known national journalist has completed a screen test and is favoured to take the job vacated by David McCullagh who has moved to the Six One News."
I agree, RTE is as stale as most of its moribund vierwers. These viewers weekly weep at sensitive Ryans offerings and clog up twitter with meaningless gushings. We have cookery programs presented by well connected but unqualified cooks. Well connected overpaid political heavyweights with an even more limited capacity to ask the right questions. Then again we expect too much from our state run broadcaster, when you look at the quality of our political class we shouldnt be so demanding. Thankfully we have TG4 for culture, art and real sport."
Dee Forbes seemingly was pretty successful in previous employments and held many serious job titles, she appeared to have an endless budget at her disposal to see her projects through successfully, she worked mostly from an international platform with a team of professionals, from what I gather.

I don't think she will have the same success rate with RTE, I hope I'm wrong, I see RTE as being a big challenge for her full stop, reason being RTE is too small a platform, it's too parochial, it's far too political, it has no ownership of broad band, it's problems are deep rooted and historic, it's a project that's fragmented more so than is broken, the project repair cost was always in deficit before the repairs began and lacked professionalism, that's why I say I don't think Dee Forbes will have the same success rate with RTE, the reason being her previous projects were never challenged with a budget cost deficit or never wanted for professional assistants in her team.

As far as I can see, RTE lacks openness and transparency, it has tunnel vision, it's a one way street, RTE is heavily state funded by tax payer's money, there's 1200 ish, tax payers in RTE, most of which will never get off the bottom rung of the ladder, they deserve better than that.
My experience of state, semi state, and indeed private Company employers, mostly had an open and transparent policy, they had a door always open policy, they had a promotion prospect policy, they had an all jobs vacant advertising policy, they had a best person gets the job policy.

RTE need's a business partner perhaps a merge, if it gets through this recession it will get through any recession, - - I might then have second thoughts about Dee Forbes as CEO, of RTE."]You dont hope you are wrong at all. You are desperate for her to fail

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 952 - 16/09/2020 22:32:43    2292585

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Replying To bloodyban:  "TG4 are good but they only represent a limited segment of Irelands population and we pay well for it. RTE is shocking, the money spent on it is not value for money. We look across at the BBC and thats struggling even though its one of the biggest in the World. Theyve lost their way and there's a huge review and changes coming. Does Ireland have the will to follow suit with RTE? It isn't too late"
BBC has not lost its way its a hugely respected service that is loved in the Uk outside the tax cutting tories and some ultra nationalist fools and has put out plenty of very successful shows over the last few years

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 952 - 16/09/2020 22:35:17    2292586

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Replying To Breezy:  "BBC has not lost its way its a hugely respected service that is loved in the Uk outside the tax cutting tories and some ultra nationalist fools and has put out plenty of very successful shows over the last few years"
Would agree that the BBC hasn't lost it's way, the British public just have more issues with the presenters and personalities they have on their shows, not the show themselves (with the exception of Top Gear which is pretty poor without the 3 former presenters)

eoghan6688 (Galway) - Posts: 109 - 17/09/2020 20:38:31    2292780

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "I wouldn't think so, not sure there's that many of them anyway, what do you reckon GreenandRed, could this be Mayo's year? Dubs could be out of it if they are locked in/down."
It wouldn't be an All Ireland if every county wasn't playing though we'd enjoy a few nights in or out if that could ever happen. I wouldn't rate our 2020 All Ireland chances, under Horan, above Dublin, Kerry, yerselves, Galway or Tyrone.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 5785 - 17/09/2020 21:17:23    2292785

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Replying To Breezy:  "
Replying To supersub15:  "[quote=arock:  "[quote=supersub15:  "RTE is a closed shop full stop, knowing who gets what job is as predictable as knowing that it's going to rain sooner rather than later. Knowing who was going to take over from Michael Lyster and Sean O'Rourke in advance belittled the job, it also belittled those hoping to be selected for consideration, apparently there is no openness and transparency within the system.+.
It appears as if Sara Mc Inerney kept SOR's chair warm for Clair Byrne, at the same time she was serving her apprenticeship for the next move, it happened and good luck to her, but where was the advert. and the interviews. They moved David McCulloch who is imo, is a top drawer forensic investigating journalist from prime time slot to 6-01 News, is that a promotion, demotion, or a move sideways, either way sure it will leave a vacancy to be filled with Prime Time.?
I could never get my head around why they removed "Breakfast Republic" from the early morning 2fm breakfast show, it had huge following, plenty of ad lib stuff a variety of entertainment massive listenership numbers, only to be replaced with more music, less chat or entertainment.
I watched the last few minutes of Evanne ni ChuIlinn Saturday night presenting the gaa matches of the day, the pundits were Pat Spillane and Sean Cavanagh, what a load of rubbish, what we were watching was heavily glamourized, but lacked content, gone was the Pat Spillane and Sean Cavanagh we all once new, Pat in particular seemed to have been air brushed, he had a few elocution crash courses it seems, gone was the once familiar body language, the ad lib stuff even his very familiar Kerry accent had quietened, the d b levels have reached an all time low. Sean Cavanagh wasn't his familiar self either they were either reading from an auto que or from a minimised script.

Out of one frying pan, into a different fire as they say.
supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2064 - 07/09/2020 15:39:46
"Row over jobs in RTE as staff furious over plan for new Prime Time Host."

David Mc Cullagh's move to 6-01 News didn't make sense to me at first now it does. Surprise, surprise.
A well-known national journalist has completed a screen test and is favoured to take the job vacated by David McCullagh who has moved to the Six One News."
I agree, RTE is as stale as most of its moribund vierwers. These viewers weekly weep at sensitive Ryans offerings and clog up twitter with meaningless gushings. We have cookery programs presented by well connected but unqualified cooks. Well connected overpaid political heavyweights with an even more limited capacity to ask the right questions. Then again we expect too much from our state run broadcaster, when you look at the quality of our political class we shouldnt be so demanding. Thankfully we have TG4 for culture, art and real sport."
Dee Forbes seemingly was pretty successful in previous employments and held many serious job titles, she appeared to have an endless budget at her disposal to see her projects through successfully, she worked mostly from an international platform with a team of professionals, from what I gather.

I don't think she will have the same success rate with RTE, I hope I'm wrong, I see RTE as being a big challenge for her full stop, reason being RTE is too small a platform, it's too parochial, it's far too political, it has no ownership of broad band, it's problems are deep rooted and historic, it's a project that's fragmented more so than is broken, the project repair cost was always in deficit before the repairs began and lacked professionalism, that's why I say I don't think Dee Forbes will have the same success rate with RTE, the reason being her previous projects were never challenged with a budget cost deficit or never wanted for professional assistants in her team.

As far as I can see, RTE lacks openness and transparency, it has tunnel vision, it's a one way street, RTE is heavily state funded by tax payer's money, there's 1200 ish, tax payers in RTE, most of which will never get off the bottom rung of the ladder, they deserve better than that.
My experience of state, semi state, and indeed private Company employers, mostly had an open and transparent policy, they had a door always open policy, they had a promotion prospect policy, they had an all jobs vacant advertising policy, they had a best person gets the job policy.

RTE need's a business partner perhaps a merge, if it gets through this recession it will get through any recession, - - I might then have second thoughts about Dee Forbes as CEO, of RTE."]You dont hope you are wrong at all. You are desperate for her to fail"]It's called "constructive professional criticism," nothing personal. - RTE may not be my favorite broadcaster, but I'd hate to see it go down the tubes when it could be avoided.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2067 - 17/09/2020 21:37:13    2292789

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RTE showed the program, Unquiet Graves. This was a good program. At the start it showed highlights of the Dublin V Derry gaelic football match, All Ireland semi final in 1975. And how two Derry fans were shot dead by the UDR, at a road block, on their way back. They had Derry GAA flags on their car. I know there are always two sides to every story. But this involved GAA fans.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 1800 - 18/09/2020 11:14:26    2292852

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