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The Corona Virus And Possible Effects To GAA Matches

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Replying To bloodyban:  "'Crown Forces' ? Classic republican trope. Sounds like some evil StarWars type baddies. Very childish.
I know plenty about Irelands history. I can look at both sides up there and look at them rationally. The troubles were terrible..civil rights issues were a catalyst to violence that achieved nothing only mayhem and murder.Ultimately I blame the IRA for that, not the British army. The education system in Ireland has alot to answer for. We come out of Secondary school blaming the UK for everything even though we were in it and fully in it. The Famine..800 years of pain..all one sided rubbish.You couldn't make it up . Its not healthy. You've wooly jumper che guevara,victim types walking around telling Indians that we too were a colony like you...we suffered your pain. And half the British army and civil service in India during colonialism was Irish..!!!"
So you don't like that the Irish education system put all the blame one way? (that was in no way my experience in school so maybe dont make the mistake that people often make in assuming that your experience was everyone's experience)

Yet you put all the blame for the troubles one way.

Fairly hypocritical to be honest.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13047 - 25/08/2020 19:22:18    2289130

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Replying To Trump2020:  "No worries at all...them Mayo lads are too tough to get a Virus!"
Just out out of interest, could you tell me how many people in Mayo have died of the Covid-19 so far virus this year?

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 1029 - 25/08/2020 19:33:02    2289132

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Replying To bloodyban:  "'Crown Forces' ? Classic republican trope. Sounds like some evil StarWars type baddies. Very childish.
I know plenty about Irelands history. I can look at both sides up there and look at them rationally. The troubles were terrible..civil rights issues were a catalyst to violence that achieved nothing only mayhem and murder.Ultimately I blame the IRA for that, not the British army. The education system in Ireland has alot to answer for. We come out of Secondary school blaming the UK for everything even though we were in it and fully in it. The Famine..800 years of pain..all one sided rubbish.You couldn't make it up . Its not healthy. You've wooly jumper che guevara,victim types walking around telling Indians that we too were a colony like you...we suffered your pain. And half the British army and civil service in India during colonialism was Irish..!!!"
The Irish you refer to in India were the 'Irish' like yourself aka 'West Brits' and 'soup takers'. None of us living in the South can know what if was to live in the North as a Nationalist for the last 100 years-it's best to defer to people who actually lived and suffered in that situation.

updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 386 - 25/08/2020 19:46:35    2289135

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Replying To bloodyban:  "'Crown Forces' ? Classic republican trope. Sounds like some evil StarWars type baddies. Very childish.
I know plenty about Irelands history. I can look at both sides up there and look at them rationally. The troubles were terrible..civil rights issues were a catalyst to violence that achieved nothing only mayhem and murder.Ultimately I blame the IRA for that, not the British army. The education system in Ireland has alot to answer for. We come out of Secondary school blaming the UK for everything even though we were in it and fully in it. The Famine..800 years of pain..all one sided rubbish.You couldn't make it up . Its not healthy. You've wooly jumper che guevara,victim types walking around telling Indians that we too were a colony like you...we suffered your pain. And half the British army and civil service in India during colonialism was Irish..!!!"
Ahh yeah the classic Irish where oppressors abroad etc etc. If you read history or scratched it, you would understand the genocide of the 16th and 17th centuries. The 18th century purging of catholics from every facet of civil society, even erasing Catholic and Presbyterian famillies, this enforced poverty led all the way to the famine the ultimate attempt to erase us off the face of the earth. In your revised history it was us at fault, like the beggars and homeless of today, all their own fault. This same revised history says the RIC protected us (!) not the corn during the famine, the Irish on the Somme fought for us (!) so small nations could be free (!) and the good guys won the Civil war and the irish that fought abroad for the Brits believed they where Brits and not poor paddies. None of this revision is remotely true of course. If you wear another mans uniform you serve them not your own. But we have our country, we still have bits of our culture, we have our mighty history, we have our glorious games we don't need much else, bar the FF/FG who between them have served first themselves.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4367 - 25/08/2020 21:17:30    2289146

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "Just out out of interest, could you tell me how many people in Mayo have died of the Covid-19 so far virus this year?"
No idea.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 992 - 25/08/2020 21:32:16    2289149

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Replying To zinny:  "The only thing I think that will stop it will be GAA deciding that its too costly to run without crowds which it looks increasing like it will have to happen that way."
We trained tonight in lashing rain....no big issue as lads close to home for a shower.....what happens with county training, never mind matches....without dressing rooms and showers open then it is a no go as lads can't travel an hour or more back home etc

We would all love inter county season but I think the practicalities are going to be impossible unless there is a change in the processes/ guidelines....

ArmaghCat (Armagh) - Posts: 36 - 25/08/2020 21:42:53    2289150

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great to see all the relevancy to GAA matches here..

wishfulthinkin (Cavan) - Posts: 1464 - 25/08/2020 22:15:11    2289155

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You'd miss the auld red thumbs on this thread. There would be record numbers of them under some posts!!

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1423 - 25/08/2020 22:39:01    2289159

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Replying To ArmaghCat:  "We trained tonight in lashing rain....no big issue as lads close to home for a shower.....what happens with county training, never mind matches....without dressing rooms and showers open then it is a no go as lads can't travel an hour or more back home etc

We would all love inter county season but I think the practicalities are going to be impossible unless there is a change in the processes/ guidelines...."
wouldn't cost too much to stick up a few outdoor showers like the ones at beaches..or keep an eye on the weather and only train when it's dry. Why the concern about county trainings, club players have to drive over an hour too, it's a long way from dublin to the likes of longford, leitrim, cavan, etc

wishfulthinkin (Cavan) - Posts: 1464 - 26/08/2020 01:23:09    2289165

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I'm astonished there is still talk of an Inter-County championship...teams will drop out either due to financial reasons or when teams get a suspected or positive case.

It won't be an all Ireland if every tram is not in it. What happens if Dublin, Kerry etc have to bow out due to an outbreak in the camp? It will be a tainted win.

Without crowds anyway it would be an all Ireland devoid of joy and emotion. Just end it and pray we can resume next year.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 10191 - 26/08/2020 08:34:06    2289173

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Replying To yew_tree:  "I'm astonished there is still talk of an Inter-County championship...teams will drop out either due to financial reasons or when teams get a suspected or positive case.

It won't be an all Ireland if every tram is not in it. What happens if Dublin, Kerry etc have to bow out due to an outbreak in the camp? It will be a tainted win.

Without crowds anyway it would be an all Ireland devoid of joy and emotion. Just end it and pray we can resume next year."
Well Micheal Martin talked about it a couple of days ago in terms of it should happen in order to give a boost to the nation. Now I would say his comments and new desire for it to take place is as a result of "golfgate", but if he is true to his word the implication of it is that there would be financial help given to the GAA to play the championship behind closed doors. I take your point though, that if a county team has to drop out due to a flare up of Covid that it would be a flawed championship.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1423 - 26/08/2020 10:13:01    2289177

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Bloody ban is from Limerick. I recall Limerick being labelled Stab city. It was notorious. Of course this was stereo typing, as not every one there carried a knife. So why is he stereo typing Nationalists now. You cannot make this up. Also how many All Irelands have Limerick won over the years. Just one in the last 40. Galway have a lot more. So do Kerry. Limerick is supposed to be a "sporting city". One hurling in the last 40 years. Some record.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 1802 - 26/08/2020 10:43:44    2289185

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To get back to the GAA, I think they should try and finish the Allianz leagues. What is the problem.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 1802 - 26/08/2020 10:44:47    2289186

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Replying To galwayford:  "To get back to the GAA, I think they should try and finish the Allianz leagues. What is the problem."
Because you cant do both and which is better off to play? The league or the championship?

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 1208 - 26/08/2020 11:18:34    2289193

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Replying To yew_tree:  "I'm astonished there is still talk of an Inter-County championship...teams will drop out either due to financial reasons or when teams get a suspected or positive case.

It won't be an all Ireland if every tram is not in it. What happens if Dublin, Kerry etc have to bow out due to an outbreak in the camp? It will be a tainted win.

Without crowds anyway it would be an all Ireland devoid of joy and emotion. Just end it and pray we can resume next year."
I'd agree, albeit the single biggest reason that I believe there won't be a championship is financial. The GAA's biggest source of revenue by a country mile is gate receipts. The cost of preparing up to sixty IC teams to compete in championships without paying supporters will lead to big financial losses. They may be able to get some additional funding from TV but there is no way it'll even begin to cover the shortfall.

Despite the 'putting clubs first' line earlier in the year it was blatantly obvious that the whole idea of delaying the IC championship until late Autumn was to see if they could get fans in to Croke Park. That looks like a lost cause now.

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1872 - 26/08/2020 11:22:35    2289195

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Replying To galwayford:  "Bloody ban is from Limerick. I recall Limerick being labelled Stab city. It was notorious. Of course this was stereo typing, as not every one there carried a knife. So why is he stereo typing Nationalists now. You cannot make this up. Also how many All Irelands have Limerick won over the years. Just one in the last 40. Galway have a lot more. So do Kerry. Limerick is supposed to be a "sporting city". One hurling in the last 40 years. Some record."
I dont see why you would bring up nicknames for Limerick
. Its irrelevant..its like saying Galway is full of hairy lefties playing bodhrans and wearing Free Palestine propaganda t shirts. Its partly true but irrelevant. Id take Stab cities salt of the earth any day over Galways fakery. And then asking how many All Irelands have Limerick won. We've a pile more than Galway in Rugby . Actually ye have none. And we have about 4 more hurling All Irelands than ye. Galwsy is a sporting Wasteland.

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1267 - 26/08/2020 12:39:24    2289206

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Replying To bloodyban:  "I dont see why you would bring up nicknames for Limerick
. Its irrelevant..its like saying Galway is full of hairy lefties playing bodhrans and wearing Free Palestine propaganda t shirts. Its partly true but irrelevant. Id take Stab cities salt of the earth any day over Galways fakery. And then asking how many All Irelands have Limerick won. We've a pile more than Galway in Rugby . Actually ye have none. And we have about 4 more hurling All Irelands than ye. Galwsy is a sporting Wasteland."
Nothing like some good old Galway-Limerick banter going back and forth. I'll take it any day over the political posts though. Ha ha ha.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 992 - 26/08/2020 12:46:06    2289209

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Replying To arock:  "Ahh yeah the classic Irish where oppressors abroad etc etc. If you read history or scratched it, you would understand the genocide of the 16th and 17th centuries. The 18th century purging of catholics from every facet of civil society, even erasing Catholic and Presbyterian famillies, this enforced poverty led all the way to the famine the ultimate attempt to erase us off the face of the earth. In your revised history it was us at fault, like the beggars and homeless of today, all their own fault. This same revised history says the RIC protected us (!) not the corn during the famine, the Irish on the Somme fought for us (!) so small nations could be free (!) and the good guys won the Civil war and the irish that fought abroad for the Brits believed they where Brits and not poor paddies. None of this revision is remotely true of course. If you wear another mans uniform you serve them not your own. But we have our country, we still have bits of our culture, we have our mighty history, we have our glorious games we don't need much else, bar the FF/FG who between them have served first themselves."
Youre the revisionist,not me. There is no recorded genocide in Ireland, none. There were lots of mayhem and murder and attrocities. But by you saying it was a genocide lessens actual genocides elsewhere. The 16th and 17th centuries were bloody all over Europe. Again Ireland wasn't a special case as you presuppose. It didn't suffer more than most.
The 'attempt to erase us' comment is pure gobbledygook. Its quiet frankly laughable and if you're going around in 2020 believing that then you are deluded.
I hope FF and FG do a better job than they have been doing. If they improve then they can keep power out of the hands of Republicans indefinitely.

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1267 - 26/08/2020 12:48:12    2289210

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Replying To galwayford:  "Bloody ban is from Limerick. I recall Limerick being labelled Stab city. It was notorious. Of course this was stereo typing, as not every one there carried a knife. So why is he stereo typing Nationalists now. You cannot make this up. Also how many All Irelands have Limerick won over the years. Just one in the last 40. Galway have a lot more. So do Kerry. Limerick is supposed to be a "sporting city". One hurling in the last 40 years. Some record."
A few British and Irish Selections back 42 players were picked from an area with a population of 70 million people. Limerick, in its entirety has about 180,000. 5 of the 42 were from Limerick (and five from 12 Irishmen chosen). We had about one in every 420 people in the catchment area, yet we had slightly better that one in every nine selected. I think it is remarkable that our county has won All Irelands in 8 different decades considering the powerful presence of rugby in our county. (BTW,The GAA did not start in 1980) In 1979 Galway, with a hurling population about three times ours had won one Ireland in 92 years of competition. This is not to detract from Galway achievements, a county that has a very successful record in GAA as well, but just to illustrate that every county outside the big three in hurling have had long periods of under achievement.

Oldertourman (Limerick) - Posts: 154 - 26/08/2020 13:00:12    2289211

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Replying To galwayford:  "To get back to the GAA, I think they should try and finish the Allianz leagues. What is the problem."
They still have more All Irelands than us Galwayford. We have a pathetic five All Irelands from 25 finals which works out at a highly unimpressive 20% win percentage, while Limerick have 8 from 16 which is a 50% win percentage. So with all due respect, Galway fans are in no position to slag off other counties about the number of All Irelands they have won.

gilly1910 (Galway) - Posts: 85 - 26/08/2020 13:18:29    2289215

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