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The Corona Virus And Possible Effects To GAA Matches

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Replying To moc.dna:  "Meat processing plants have & continue to be let away with deplorable inaction in relation to Covid-19. This small group of very wealthy individuals have been allowed to screw farmers for decades, whilst they continue their buy up of various properties throughout the country. It is particularly galling to see one individual benefit from the State paying the Private Hospitals for cover. These people were allowed to flood the market with cheap labour brought in on work permits year on year paying them buttons, they even tapped into a certain sector of society when the law was changed allowing these people to work. They provide poor accommodation for those on work permits with people packed into rooms & buses & cars on their way to work, no work, no pay. This has been a red flag issue for months, but because these owners have influence at the very top of Irish political life, a blind eye was turned, allowing plants to continue to enable the greed. There is one Govt Dept. that will do nothing to offend these owners & the Minister is usually a lackey for them. Witness how they are allowed to screw the producers who can't even make a living wage, yet these Billionaires can hoover up certain private practices.
A question which needs to be asked is, who is paying for the testing at these plants now, the wealthy processors or the State ? The Govt have cocked this up bringing in measures that will be unenforceable, should have been aimed at locking down those within the clusters only & having the Meat Processors closed. Shut down the processors now & end the scandal of dishing out work permits. Pay producers & staff properly & allow them to work in safe conditions. Unfortunately this B&lls of a Govt will sit on their hands with this, instead they punish everybody else by a total lockdown."
I agree with your sentiments and the model that the used for dealing with similar outbreaks in Germany should be the way to go. Ironically some good may come out of this as its clear that nobody really cared what was happening at these factories. However thats nothing new, whats new is that its on our own doorstep. We are all guilty - we would just prefer if it didn't happen in Ireland, have a look at some of the labels on the clothes you wear and where they are made.
One last thing to think of, lets see what type of uproar will happen when an action plan on reducing the national beef heard in order to meet our greenhouse omissions targets in published. Oh and I saw someone complaining about Tiktok's plans to build a data center in Ireland.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1804 - 09/08/2020 03:26:09    2286942

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Replying To Green_Gold:  "My heart goes out to the 3 counties who have had the restrictions reimposed again. It is unreal how this virus can spread so quickly, only a few weeks ago we thought we were in a good place. Difficult to see the club championships in any county being concluded, looks impossible for Kildare, Laois and Offaly.

Very hard to know where we are with the GAA season now. Its been a rollercoaster ride, in April we thought the whole year was a washout but by June it was looking good, now I dont have any clue if any competition will get finished.

I dont think the Dublin bashing is fair, they have a higher population density than any other county and have been doing brilliant so far."
The whole blame Dublin thing is a joke. Lockdown Dublin? despite the fact that their is no reason to do it, locking Dublin down you may as well shut the whole country down again. I believe close to 50% of all economic activity happens in Dublin and over 50% of the income tax is collected in Dublin - basically Dublin pays for a lot of the services that everyone enjoys in other parts of the country. The interconnectivity between Dublin and the rest of the county is also misunderstood, good luck with getting anything done if Dublin is in lockdown.

Anyway the worring thing is what they don't say
174 New
112 Cluster Close Contacts
5 Community
What are the remainder? unidentified so could be either and thats the big worry.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1804 - 09/08/2020 03:43:25    2286943

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Replying To moc.dna:  "There can be no All Ireland title if some counties have to be excluded."
The GAA need to finish the National league at least. What is wrong with that. We already hear all the hype about the Rugby starting in the Aviva. Surely it is not impossible to finish the league in Croke park. It is a huge stadium. What on earth is wrong with the GAA. If they cannot get their games played, well what is the point.
They are allowing, imho, the Govt and Rugby to run rings around them. Is mise.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2519 - 09/08/2020 10:04:14    2286955

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Replying To galwayford:  "The GAA need to finish the National league at least. What is wrong with that. We already hear all the hype about the Rugby starting in the Aviva. Surely it is not impossible to finish the league in Croke park. It is a huge stadium. What on earth is wrong with the GAA. If they cannot get their games played, well what is the point.
They are allowing, imho, the Govt and Rugby to run rings around them. Is mise."
The GAA need to finish the National league at least

Well said - this point can't be repeated often enough. Of the many issues facing the country along with Covid & its economic impact; Brexit, a border poll , the rise of Sinn Fein etc its important that the primary issue facing the nation [completion of the NFL] is kept front & centre in the national debate.
Thankfully certain Galway posters on HS are doing their bit in this regard.

ps Remind us again lads, what's so important about the NFL this year?

timmyhogan (UK) - Posts: 290 - 09/08/2020 12:20:13    2286969

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Replying To timmyhogan:  "The GAA need to finish the National league at least

Well said - this point can't be repeated often enough. Of the many issues facing the country along with Covid & its economic impact; Brexit, a border poll , the rise of Sinn Fein etc its important that the primary issue facing the nation [completion of the NFL
is kept front & centre in the national debate.
Thankfully certain Galway posters on HS are doing their bit in this regard.

ps Remind us again lads, what's so important about the NFL this year?"]Timmy Hogan, Allianz are a big sponsor of GAA. They deserve a bit of respect. If you think I am sad, well last week in Seanad Eireann, a Green senator Martin, from Kildare, was moaning about not having a Schools rugby final on.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2519 - 09/08/2020 13:06:27    2286978

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Sadly the South is reinforcing the Savage Eye 'Muck Savages' reputation it has. This virus is like an Atlantic storm gaining in strength again and all we hear is "Shhhuuuurrrre de pubs are de most important ting". It's The Field, Quiet Man, Darby O'Gill, Irish RM all rolled into one. "Top 'o de Mornin 'till ye Soiirrr".

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9702 - 10/08/2020 03:56:03    2287053

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "Sadly the South is reinforcing the Savage Eye 'Muck Savages' reputation it has. This virus is like an Atlantic storm gaining in strength again and all we hear is "Shhhuuuurrrre de pubs are de most important ting". It's The Field, Quiet Man, Darby O'Gill, Irish RM all rolled into one. "Top 'o de Mornin 'till ye Soiirrr"."
I guess people are sick of being cooped up like sardines. If they're wearing masks and keeping a fair distance from each other they should be ok.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2120 - 10/08/2020 11:59:56    2287098

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Replying To galwayford:  "
Replying To timmyhogan:  "The GAA need to finish the National league at least

Well said - this point can't be repeated often enough. Of the many issues facing the country along with Covid & its economic impact; Brexit, a border poll , the rise of Sinn Fein etc its important that the primary issue facing the nation [completion of the NFL
is kept front & centre in the national debate.
Thankfully certain Galway posters on HS are doing their bit in this regard.

ps Remind us again lads, what's so important about the NFL this year?"
Timmy Hogan, Allianz are a big sponsor of GAA. They deserve a bit of respect. If you think I am sad, well last week in Seanad Eireann, a Green senator Martin, from Kildare, was moaning about not having a Schools rugby final on."]Martin contacted the IRFU about having the game played, the fist all-Kildare final. He was proactive.

Moaning is what you do, constantly, when you post here.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7344 - 10/08/2020 13:07:40    2287111

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Replying To galwayford:  "
Replying To timmyhogan:  "The GAA need to finish the National league at least

Well said - this point can't be repeated often enough. Of the many issues facing the country along with Covid & its economic impact; Brexit, a border poll , the rise of Sinn Fein etc its important that the primary issue facing the nation [completion of the NFL
is kept front & centre in the national debate.
Thankfully certain Galway posters on HS are doing their bit in this regard.

ps Remind us again lads, what's so important about the NFL this year?"
Timmy Hogan, Allianz are a big sponsor of GAA. They deserve a bit of respect. If you think I am sad, well last week in Seanad Eireann, a Green senator Martin, from Kildare, was moaning about not having a Schools rugby final on."]So the Galway fans are concerned that a trillion euro company aren't getting value for money from their GAA sponsorship deal.
Well I'm glad we have cleared that up. Such noble sentiments are the heart & soul of the GAA ;-}

Carry on.

timmyhogan (UK) - Posts: 290 - 10/08/2020 21:02:33    2287177

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Replying To Trump2020:  "I guess people are sick of being cooped up like sardines. If they're wearing masks and keeping a fair distance from each other they should be ok."
Amazing how the whole thing of masks has changed now. You have to wonder if when the lockdown started initially had people been told to wear them how many lives could have been saved.
Its amazing that with all the space in some of the grounds that the games are being played at people still are gathering in the one place - it's clearly not everyone but some do. Also the numbers of people who seem to be able to get on the pitch after the games - perhaps if everyone would stick to the guidelines espically when on live streams there might be more sympathy for increasing the numbers at games. I fear that a lot of people just think its all over and thats the big worry with reopening pubs, lads going on about how they are the center of the community (there was even a priest on saying it) etc, well we said the same thing about the GAA club. Mind you they are all blaming the behavior of the pubs in Dublin and its a view "but we are not like that" however based on the evidence of whats happening on the TV - human behavior in Dublin is no different to whats happing outside it. At least the pubs in Dublin may have ventilation systems.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1804 - 11/08/2020 02:48:43    2287194

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Replying To timmyhogan:  "
Replying To galwayford:  "[quote=timmyhogan:  "The GAA need to finish the National league at least

Well said - this point can't be repeated often enough. Of the many issues facing the country along with Covid & its economic impact; Brexit, a border poll , the rise of Sinn Fein etc its important that the primary issue facing the nation [completion of the NFL
is kept front & centre in the national debate.
Thankfully certain Galway posters on HS are doing their bit in this regard.

ps Remind us again lads, what's so important about the NFL this year?"
Timmy Hogan, Allianz are a big sponsor of GAA. They deserve a bit of respect. If you think I am sad, well last week in Seanad Eireann, a Green senator Martin, from Kildare, was moaning about not having a Schools rugby final on."]So the Galway fans are concerned that a trillion euro company aren't getting value for money from their GAA sponsorship deal.
Well I'm glad we have cleared that up. Such noble sentiments are the heart & soul of the GAA ;-}

Carry on."]Laugh if you like, but the GAA need money to survive. And Allianz and others put money into the games. According to Laois, county teams are down 400,000 euros. And will struggle to field teams in the future. So come on GAA, forget the bogus Hphet, and put on the games. Nphet and Govt give different rules every month. Time the GAA started doing the same imho. Slán.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2519 - 11/08/2020 11:25:02    2287209

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "
Replying To galwayford:  "[quote=timmyhogan:  "The GAA need to finish the National league at least

Well said - this point can't be repeated often enough. Of the many issues facing the country along with Covid & its economic impact; Brexit, a border poll , the rise of Sinn Fein etc its important that the primary issue facing the nation [completion of the NFL
is kept front & centre in the national debate.
Thankfully certain Galway posters on HS are doing their bit in this regard.

ps Remind us again lads, what's so important about the NFL this year?"
Timmy Hogan, Allianz are a big sponsor of GAA. They deserve a bit of respect. If you think I am sad, well last week in Seanad Eireann, a Green senator Martin, from Kildare, was moaning about not having a Schools rugby final on."]Martin contacted the IRFU about having the game played, the fist all-Kildare final. He was proactive.

Moaning is what you do, constantly, when you post here."]Remind me, Green and Red, how many All Ireland's have Mayo won in the last 50 years. LOL

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2519 - 11/08/2020 11:26:29    2287210

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Replying To zinny:  "Amazing how the whole thing of masks has changed now. You have to wonder if when the lockdown started initially had people been told to wear them how many lives could have been saved.
Its amazing that with all the space in some of the grounds that the games are being played at people still are gathering in the one place - it's clearly not everyone but some do. Also the numbers of people who seem to be able to get on the pitch after the games - perhaps if everyone would stick to the guidelines espically when on live streams there might be more sympathy for increasing the numbers at games. I fear that a lot of people just think its all over and thats the big worry with reopening pubs, lads going on about how they are the center of the community (there was even a priest on saying it) etc, well we said the same thing about the GAA club. Mind you they are all blaming the behavior of the pubs in Dublin and its a view "but we are not like that" however based on the evidence of whats happening on the TV - human behavior in Dublin is no different to whats happing outside it. At least the pubs in Dublin may have ventilation systems."
A lot of masks I see are very cheap and frivolous but better than nothing. I was in Japan around 2000 and I noticed they wore masks whenever they had even a simple cold. I always admired them for that. I've been off the drink since February partially because of what you are talking about.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2120 - 11/08/2020 11:26:41    2287211

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Replying To galwayford:  "The GAA need to finish the National league at least. What is wrong with that. We already hear all the hype about the Rugby starting in the Aviva. Surely it is not impossible to finish the league in Croke park. It is a huge stadium. What on earth is wrong with the GAA. If they cannot get their games played, well what is the point.
They are allowing, imho, the Govt and Rugby to run rings around them. Is mise."
There is only one reason why a Galway man wants to see the NFL as a priority and that is because Mayo are more than likely get relegated to Div 2. This is actually more important than Galway winning the league.

Tizcold (Galway) - Posts: 239 - 11/08/2020 11:54:38    2287213

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Replying To Tizcold:  "There is only one reason why a Galway man wants to see the NFL as a priority and that is because Mayo are more than likely get relegated to Div 2. This is actually more important than Galway winning the league."
I can't speak for all Galway people but when Galway are knocked out of the Championship or League I pull hard for Mayo. The recent team that lost to Donegal and Dublin in them All Irelands broke my heart. Great bunch of players. Pure sin that they didn't win at least one.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2120 - 11/08/2020 13:07:04    2287215

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Replying To timmyhogan:  "The GAA need to finish the National league at least

Well said - this point can't be repeated often enough. Of the many issues facing the country along with Covid & its economic impact; Brexit, a border poll , the rise of Sinn Fein etc its important that the primary issue facing the nation [completion of the NFL
is kept front & centre in the national debate.
Thankfully certain Galway posters on HS are doing their bit in this regard.

ps Remind us again lads, what's so important about the NFL this year?"]''Of the many issues facing the country along with Covid & its economic impact; Brexit, a border poll , the rise of Sinn Fein "

So the rise of a different political party (other than the same two parties FF/FG for the last 100 years) to act as a formidable opposition to the government, and to righty hold them to account ......this is a bad thing? Surely this is a good thing for democracy in Ireland?

ConnollyDub (Dublin) - Posts: 2007 - 11/08/2020 16:31:24    2287250

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Interesting to see Aukland now in a lockdown over the new cases there. Reading about it, no clue where it came from and the dad in the family had has the symptoms for five days before the test. They went 102 days without any local transmission and yet they get one where they have no idea where it came from. Even with a Vaccine this virus will be with us forever.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1804 - 11/08/2020 16:47:08    2287254

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The Govt and their media allies are making a joke of the GAA. They are allowing inter pro rugby, but will not allow inter county GAA. Time for GAA to stand up.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2519 - 12/08/2020 10:37:05    2287317

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They Inter Pro Rugby players are professionals who will be tested through the IRFU funding. Look at Jack McCaffrey stepping away from Dublin as his work as a doctor would be too much of a concern to playing Inter County.

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2763 - 12/08/2020 10:48:25    2287320

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Replying To galwayford:  "The Govt and their media allies are making a joke of the GAA. They are allowing inter pro rugby, but will not allow inter county GAA. Time for GAA to stand up."
Pro sport. Able to pay for tests. Players and coaches able to stay in bubble which isnt really possible for amateur sport with players going to work
It isnt making a joke of the GAA. How exactly do you think the GAA should "stand up"?

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3510 - 12/08/2020 10:52:20    2287322

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