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Replying To browncows:  "It would be great if we could pay everyone. Not sure what elite means-nothing elite about some of our national teams! There are far too many people being paid in the GAA. Its a bit like government with all the spin doctors being paid and all decisions being to little to late. Mismanagement is rife in most of our large organisations and paying folk does not mean they do a better job. Look at out 'new hospital'!-all professionals looking after it."
What national teams are you referring to?
How is there far too many people being paid in the GAA?
What sorts of jobs shouldnt have people there and who would do that work then?

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3746 - 14/02/2021 01:01:15    2331319

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Replying To KillingFields:  "What national teams are you referring to?
How is there far too many people being paid in the GAA?
What sorts of jobs shouldnt have people there and who would do that work then?"
Are you not aware that we have a national soccer team, or do you live in a different planet

Do you not understand the meaning of 'too many'? - 8 is more than 6!

Most of the work in the GAA is done by volunteers all over the country and beyond- go to any club and you will see the people training, playing, coaching and managing our underage teams, raising money to facilitate development etc. cleaning kit - I could go on. The percentage getting paid is very low-but it should be lower and maybe you need me to explain what lower means!

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 14/02/2021 10:03:20    2331324

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Ok am I right in saying it was mentioned by Gaa president and others,it will be at least Easter before training can commence..I see an article in s Sunday paper by a well known Gaa writer saying elite status expected for Gaa again..please tell me what or who is right?true for Liam Cahill when he said communication in GAA is a problem..these sort of stories are being leaked by some one..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2505 - 14/02/2021 10:52:52    2331328

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Why so many different rules? In soccer they were told not to celebrate a goal yet in rugby they can scrum like cattle round a round bale. French flying in and then scrumming with Irish plus Italy to play.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2289 - 14/02/2021 11:47:15    2331330

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Why so many different rules? In soccer they were told not to celebrate a goal yet in rugby they can scrum like cattle round a round bale. French flying in and then scrumming with Irish plus Italy to play."
No scrums in Rugby League. Abandoned until safer times.

lionofludesch (Down) - Posts: 475 - 14/02/2021 13:20:30    2331335

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Replying To KillingFields:  "What national teams are you referring to?
How is there far too many people being paid in the GAA?
What sorts of jobs shouldnt have people there and who would do that work then?"
The grab all have been put in their place teams paying money they don't have to pay management teams and to get told they are not elite. Absolutely brilliant

mickcunningham (Westmeath) - Posts: 1898 - 14/02/2021 17:02:06    2331356

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Why so many different rules? In soccer they were told not to celebrate a goal yet in rugby they can scrum like cattle round a round bale. French flying in and then scrumming with Irish plus Italy to play."
Like cattle round a round bale!! best description I've ever heard of rugby lol.
I'll never know why the soccer players have to jump on top of each other after scoring a goal, or some forward who's job it is anyway scores a tap in and goes celebrating like he done something unbelievable, and the diving and cheating in soccer is even worse now, such a rubbish sport now at the top level anyway.
can't wait for the Gaelic football to come back, suppose we will draw Tyrone again in the first round.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3178 - 14/02/2021 19:41:21    2331371

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "Like cattle round a round bale!! best description I've ever heard of rugby lol.
I'll never know why the soccer players have to jump on top of each other after scoring a goal, or some forward who's job it is anyway scores a tap in and goes celebrating like he done something unbelievable, and the diving and cheating in soccer is even worse now, such a rubbish sport now at the top level anyway.
can't wait for the Gaelic football to come back, suppose we will draw Tyrone again in the first round."
Ah sure why not, another good aul tussle.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2289 - 14/02/2021 21:58:24    2331390

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Replying To mickcunningham:  "The grab all have been put in their place teams paying money they don't have to pay management teams and to get told they are not elite. Absolutely brilliant"
Not that long ago rugby came begging with cap in hand asking GAA, " can we play on your pitch" . Don't you worry yourself about money, plenty of it in GAA from small clubs to senior clubs.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2289 - 14/02/2021 22:09:00    2331394

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Replying To mickcunningham:  "The grab all have been put in their place teams paying money they don't have to pay management teams and to get told they are not elite. Absolutely brilliant"
Westmeath have never won anything in GAA. That probably explains your bitterness and trolling. Also the great "Team of Us" (Ireland) have lost their first two games, narrowly, but they still lost. They are like Westmeath if you ask me.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2614 - 15/02/2021 10:19:51    2331420

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Replying To browncows:  "Are you not aware that we have a national soccer team, or do you live in a different planet

Do you not understand the meaning of 'too many'? - 8 is more than 6!

Most of the work in the GAA is done by volunteers all over the country and beyond- go to any club and you will see the people training, playing, coaching and managing our underage teams, raising money to facilitate development etc. cleaning kit - I could go on. The percentage getting paid is very low-but it should be lower and maybe you need me to explain what lower means!"
You said there is far too many being paid in the GAA?
Do you know who is paid in the GAA? How would you replace all that work and expect same standards by amateurs?
Majority of work is done by volunteers but the people being paid are necessary and without them the GAA would be in a much worse place.
Its people doing central jobs that cant be done by amateurs.
What kind of jobs would you be getting rid of if removing full time paid staff?

And drop the smug attitude

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3746 - 15/02/2021 14:24:03    2331454

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Replying To KillingFields:  "You said there is far too many being paid in the GAA?
Do you know who is paid in the GAA? How would you replace all that work and expect same standards by amateurs?
Majority of work is done by volunteers but the people being paid are necessary and without them the GAA would be in a much worse place.
Its people doing central jobs that cant be done by amateurs.
What kind of jobs would you be getting rid of if removing full time paid staff?

And drop the smug attitude"
Do ye think browncows is being smug? Maybe he's just telling the truth.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2289 - 15/02/2021 18:25:00    2331472

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I have followed this conversation without getting involved but now will have a say. First is our GAA sports "elite"? Any sport the population in great numbers says is, then it is. Playing, following and supporting with their attendance and money. Money a big factor. If you have this conservation with an outsider (other country) telling him what the GAA players does they will say yes it is an elite sport. The next question based on what you told them what is the pay. When you tell there is no pay then it is not elite anymore. Money ! Money!
The difference is the GAA player has two jobs. (certainly at the top level). One he goes to make living at and the other he puts in similar amount time to entertain us. Funny if he was a musician or entertainer of some sort we would expect he/she would get paid. Not advocating for professional just pointing out a fact.
Now about covid and the effect our sport can play for better or worse. I find it difficult to object to any regulations that are put in place to protect society while also seeing the point of those who advocate for mental health. It is a tough call. However it is out and out hypocrisy to make a distinction between a semi pro soccer player going to a work place and training, going back into the community been exempt from the regulations applied to a GAA player. There are all kinds of silly arguments that the numbers are a lot smaller. Like saying bank robbery don't matter in Cork because many more carried out in Dublin. Too much hypocrisy, bad communication, and application of rules (travel) as applied to some when it comes to this horrible virus.
Stay safe.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3034 - 15/02/2021 23:10:13    2331508

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Replying To galwayford:  "Westmeath have never won anything in GAA. That probably explains your bitterness and trolling. Also the great "Team of Us" (Ireland) have lost their first two games, narrowly, but they still lost. They are like Westmeath if you ask me."
Sorry if this sounds "horrible" to the great county of Westmeath, and the great Irish rugby team. Both of which deserve support. Is mise le meas. Galwayford

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2614 - 16/02/2021 08:07:27    2331516

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Does anyone else think the club games could really suffer this year? The intercounty leagues will hopefully get the go ahead soon but if they are allowed run a championship under restrictions I can't see the clubs being let return till much later in the year! There's county finals from 2020 still to be ran off in Galway intermediate and junior hurling

theyoungbuck89 (Galway) - Posts: 59 - 16/02/2021 13:44:00    2331547

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Replying To theyoungbuck89:  "Does anyone else think the club games could really suffer this year? The intercounty leagues will hopefully get the go ahead soon but if they are allowed run a championship under restrictions I can't see the clubs being let return till much later in the year! There's county finals from 2020 still to be ran off in Galway intermediate and junior hurling"
Yeah I think the fixtures committees in every county might have to get creative this year in how they plan their competitions, given that there will likely be a limited window in which to run them. It will take a lot of buy-in from clubs and a certain amount of flexibility. I'm sure that not everyone will be pleased but unfortunately it's just the times that are in it.

In Donegal it would be great if there was some clarity sooner rather than later so that we could at least get the 2020 senior final between Kilcar & Glenties played. That would be a start.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9746 - 16/02/2021 14:26:21    2331556

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I think some of the intercounty league needs to be played anyway to give players competitive games before championship. 8 groups of 4 might not be a bad idea with the winners of each divisional group playing off in a final. That would reduce League games to a maximum of 4 for any team.
Championship will probably be the same format as last year.

I think if club games are back in August we will be doing well. I know clubs that went back training online in January but very hard to keep that going.

Either way the GAA need to make a decision now on the intercounty format to give us all some idea of what is happening.

hopballref (Galway) - Posts: 430 - 16/02/2021 15:02:28    2331561

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Why so many different rules? In soccer they were told not to celebrate a goal yet in rugby they can scrum like cattle round a round bale. French flying in and then scrumming with Irish plus Italy to play."
And now we here that the French coach and another member of the backroom team tested positive for Covid on returning from Dublin. Did he come over to Ireland with it or did he get it here? But there all in 'bubbles. Did any of the players have close contact with backroom team and then possible pass it on in a sweaty scrum. Is it safe for Ireland to fly to Italy and Scotland and have the English fly over here? Is this risk really necessary?

updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 899 - 16/02/2021 20:13:36    2331610

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Replying To updwell:  "And now we here that the French coach and another member of the backroom team tested positive for Covid on returning from Dublin. Did he come over to Ireland with it or did he get it here? But there all in 'bubbles. Did any of the players have close contact with backroom team and then possible pass it on in a sweaty scrum. Is it safe for Ireland to fly to Italy and Scotland and have the English fly over here? Is this risk really necessary?"
"France's head coach Galthié had previously returned a negative Covid-19 result but he was retested later on Tuesday and was found to be positive for the virus. All players tested negative on Monday evening.

All players will be retested today/on Wednesday amid fears that France's next match against Scotland on Sunday week could be thrown into doubt if a further outbreak is detected.

Even if the players test negative today/on Wednesday, they must begin preparations to face Scotland without Galthie, who along with the unnamed member of staff, must isolate for seven days.

They [the players] will also be tested again on Friday and Sunday in an effort to ensure the Scotland fixture can go ahead."

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2742 - 16/02/2021 21:43:25    2331619

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Replying To updwell:  "And now we here that the French coach and another member of the backroom team tested positive for Covid on returning from Dublin. Did he come over to Ireland with it or did he get it here? But there all in 'bubbles. Did any of the players have close contact with backroom team and then possible pass it on in a sweaty scrum. Is it safe for Ireland to fly to Italy and Scotland and have the English fly over here? Is this risk really necessary?"
I think the rugby should be scrapped, I won't miss it anyway, it was the Italian fans being let fly in last year that really started the thing spreading, I could see that happening from up here in the hills of Tir Chonaill, don't understand why the brilliant minds we had sitting on their brains in Leinster house couldn't foresee it.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3178 - 16/02/2021 21:48:54    2331620

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