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The Corona Virus And Possible Effects To GAA Matches

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I'd say Foster and Nolan enjoyed taking the high moral ground, but it was a serious own goal. I understand it was an impulse thing but it was way over the top in the current circumstances.

It makes a mockery out of the GAA calling on NPHET to "produce the evidence" and making themselves out to be beyond reproach. While most matches are nothing close to this incident we all know that distancing slipped big time lately.

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1267 - 22/09/2020 15:07:17    2293583

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "Yeah and I see Nolan couldn't wait to weigh in either. It's understandable that there will be scenes of wild jubilation but hopefully people can contain themselves. We simply have to get back to the discipline we were all showing in the early weeks and months of the virus.

If there is a glimmer of hope, European health professionals look to the southern hemisphere (Australia) to assess how strong the flu strain is for the upcoming winter. It doesn't always exactly correlate to what we end up getting in the Northern hemisphere in our winter. But so far the data analysed has shown it to be a relatively mild strain of flu in 2020"
Not sure about the whole flu thing. We know that the flu season ended early because measures taken because of Covid therefore you would have to suspect that the still existing measures will also impact it. With the flu you only pass it on when you have it but I am not sure who is going to be going out and about with the flu when Covid is still about, in some parts they could be lynched. So even if someone picks it up they would in theory be less exposed to it. I hear a lot experts going on about flu but it's a bit like predicting a fall in the stock market, if it goes up nobody cares what you said, if it falls you look like a genius. To be honest I am not sure anyone knows what will happen.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 959 - 22/09/2020 15:26:15    2293587

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The scenes at the Tyrone county final were a big own goal, again, by Irish nationalists. Where was the stewarding. Anyway I hope that other matches have better social distancing rules. And the fans are not allowed on the pitch.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 1901 - 22/09/2020 15:52:26    2293595

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It's all about perspective - how many finals across codes and levels throughout the North and in the Republic have there been in recent weeks and how many had scenes like that? Not too many I would imagine. But instead of treating it as an isolated incident it has been jumped on as a reason to empty both barrels into all of the GAA.

I am not condoning the incident - more condemning those who have shown zero consistency in their own condemnation of similar incidents.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4002 - 22/09/2020 19:06:41    2293623

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Out of curiosity, is the Return to Play app used by GAA clubs in the 6 counties or not because there are different restrictions there?

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 5883 - 22/09/2020 20:08:52    2293629

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Out of curiosity, is the Return to Play app used by GAA clubs in the 6 counties or not because there are different restrictions there?"
Yes same app is used

ArmaghCat (Armagh) - Posts: 54 - 22/09/2020 20:58:52    2293637

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Out of curiosity, is the Return to Play app used by GAA clubs in the 6 counties or not because there are different restrictions there?"
Yeah it has been operational here since it was introduced.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4002 - 22/09/2020 20:59:37    2293638

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Replying To Offside_Rule:  "It's all about perspective - how many finals across codes and levels throughout the North and in the Republic have there been in recent weeks and how many had scenes like that? Not too many I would imagine. But instead of treating it as an isolated incident it has been jumped on as a reason to empty both barrels into all of the GAA.

I am not condoning the incident - more condemning those who have shown zero consistency in their own condemnation of similar incidents."
It was bad judgement but because it is the GAA there will be sections of the Northern Ireland authorities who will want to turn it into a three ring circus. The would want to shut down the GAA if there was never a pandemic.There has been other incidents as you said where the people who want the games most, pull the mat out from under it by congregating inside the grounds and outside. These people think they are a law unto themselves. So there can only be one answer sadly, cut them off completely.
To me many of the GAA grounds could safely have thousands of fans with some innovation and cooperation. Where there is seating pre allocate spaced out seats with families togethers. Give people an allocated time for entry by seat numbers. If you do not arrive at check in time tough sh-t your not going in. Filter people out also by calling the seat numbers out to exit. I am sure terrace standing spots could be numbered also. Check points to randomly check who are travelling together. Yes it would take a lot of administration and control but I am sure there are many people who would pay for it to get to a game. However again there are probable too many idiots out there to make anything work.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 914 - 22/09/2020 22:00:54    2293646

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Replying To Offside_Rule:  "It's all about perspective - how many finals across codes and levels throughout the North and in the Republic have there been in recent weeks and how many had scenes like that? Not too many I would imagine. But instead of treating it as an isolated incident it has been jumped on as a reason to empty both barrels into all of the GAA.

I am not condoning the incident - more condemning those who have shown zero consistency in their own condemnation of similar incidents."
It was bad judgement but because it is the GAA there will be sections of the Northern Ireland authorities who will want to turn it into a three ring circus. The would want to shut down the GAA if there was never a pandemic.There has been other incidents as you said where the people who want the games most, pull the mat out from under it by congregating inside the grounds and outside. These people think they are a law unto themselves. So there can only be one answer sadly, cut them off completely.
To me many of the GAA grounds could safely have thousands of fans with some innovation and cooperation. Where there is seating pre allocate spaced out seats with families togethers. Give people an allocated time for entry by seat numbers. If you do not arrive at check in time tough sh-t your not going in. Filter people out also by calling the seat numbers out to exit. I am sure terrace standing spots could be numbered also. Check points to randomly check who are travelling together. Yes it would take a lot of administration and control but I am sure there are many people who would pay for it to get to a game. However again there are probable too many idiots out there to make anything work.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 914 - 22/09/2020 22:01:42    2293647

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The Tyrone county final pitch invasion was an own goal. as was the Storey funeral. No need to give them another stick to beat us with is there? smarter heads are called for. Our day will come for celebrating soon enough, till then keep the head.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 953 - 23/09/2020 00:01:55    2293669

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No surprise it was Tyrone GAA people letting down the GAA again and giving it a bad name. No regard or respect for the community at large, whether that be disregarding all health protocols or singing their BS sectarian songs.

Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 784 - 23/09/2020 07:14:13    2293674

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Replying To Canuck:  "It was bad judgement but because it is the GAA there will be sections of the Northern Ireland authorities who will want to turn it into a three ring circus. The would want to shut down the GAA if there was never a pandemic.There has been other incidents as you said where the people who want the games most, pull the mat out from under it by congregating inside the grounds and outside. These people think they are a law unto themselves. So there can only be one answer sadly, cut them off completely.
To me many of the GAA grounds could safely have thousands of fans with some innovation and cooperation. Where there is seating pre allocate spaced out seats with families togethers. Give people an allocated time for entry by seat numbers. If you do not arrive at check in time tough sh-t your not going in. Filter people out also by calling the seat numbers out to exit. I am sure terrace standing spots could be numbered also. Check points to randomly check who are travelling together. Yes it would take a lot of administration and control but I am sure there are many people who would pay for it to get to a game. However again there are probable too many idiots out there to make anything work."
Yea but let's face the reality, bar a few grounds that host the biggest of games there is no seat numbers on a lot of the seats in some of the country grounds. The price is access to that stand or section and it's first come first served.
At the end of the day the GAA just thought the numbers at games would be allowed go up without them doing anything to make it happen. In some ways its a failure of planning and in another it reflects what everyone else though.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 959 - 23/09/2020 13:53:03    2293761

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Replying To Canuck:  "It was bad judgement but because it is the GAA there will be sections of the Northern Ireland authorities who will want to turn it into a three ring circus. The would want to shut down the GAA if there was never a pandemic.There has been other incidents as you said where the people who want the games most, pull the mat out from under it by congregating inside the grounds and outside. These people think they are a law unto themselves. So there can only be one answer sadly, cut them off completely.
To me many of the GAA grounds could safely have thousands of fans with some innovation and cooperation. Where there is seating pre allocate spaced out seats with families togethers. Give people an allocated time for entry by seat numbers. If you do not arrive at check in time tough sh-t your not going in. Filter people out also by calling the seat numbers out to exit. I am sure terrace standing spots could be numbered also. Check points to randomly check who are travelling together. Yes it would take a lot of administration and control but I am sure there are many people who would pay for it to get to a game. However again there are probable too many idiots out there to make anything work."
It's simple really Canuck idiots or no idiots if people want to go to games you follow the rules and the guidelines or else we all suffer and no-one goes. Masks have to be mandatory in a stadium and people keep their distance-I see this being done in France and their Covid numbers are similar to ourselves own. No matter how many times you say it , it comes down to personal responsibility and self discipline if we want to have some sort of normality and enjoyment. If a pub can be open surely a stadium can be.

updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 405 - 23/09/2020 16:06:19    2293786

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Replying To updwell:  "It's simple really Canuck idiots or no idiots if people want to go to games you follow the rules and the guidelines or else we all suffer and no-one goes. Masks have to be mandatory in a stadium and people keep their distance-I see this being done in France and their Covid numbers are similar to ourselves own. No matter how many times you say it , it comes down to personal responsibility and self discipline if we want to have some sort of normality and enjoyment. If a pub can be open surely a stadium can be."
Yep. People are keen at attack the government at every opportunity. But when you boil it all down, personal responsibility and discipline are the key factors underpinning our response to Covid. Ask not what your country can do for you....etc

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 7021 - 23/09/2020 16:27:01    2293790

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If there was any justice ( which there generally isn't when it comes to them ) the banks would have to foot the bill for what this is going to cost the taxpayers considering how much they cost us all and the profits they are currently registering. It's an absolute joke how these charlatans can make a balls of things and then tell the government that it's bail us out or the country will close down.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 1540 - 23/09/2020 17:03:03    2293801

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seeing that the govt has destroyed numerous small businesses, the aviation industry and of course the pubs, why don't they employ these people as their contact tracers that they are recruiting at the moment. These people are used to working with the public.

lilypad (Kildare) - Posts: 1347 - 23/09/2020 22:06:28    2293840

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Replying To updwell:  "It's simple really Canuck idiots or no idiots if people want to go to games you follow the rules and the guidelines or else we all suffer and no-one goes. Masks have to be mandatory in a stadium and people keep their distance-I see this being done in France and their Covid numbers are similar to ourselves own. No matter how many times you say it , it comes down to personal responsibility and self discipline if we want to have some sort of normality and enjoyment. If a pub can be open surely a stadium can be."
Agree 100%.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 914 - 24/09/2020 01:12:01    2293851

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "Yep. People are keen at attack the government at every opportunity. But when you boil it all down, personal responsibility and discipline are the key factors underpinning our response to Covid. Ask not what your country can do for you....etc"
That correct Lockjaw but hard to fathom why some people will kill off something they crave for. Now in fairness they are a minority with bad behaviour but ruin it for the majority who follow the rules. Is it a macho thing, that I can do what ever I like ?

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 914 - 24/09/2020 01:16:43    2293852

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Replying To Offside_Rule:  "It's all about perspective - how many finals across codes and levels throughout the North and in the Republic have there been in recent weeks and how many had scenes like that? Not too many I would imagine. But instead of treating it as an isolated incident it has been jumped on as a reason to empty both barrels into all of the GAA.

I am not condoning the incident - more condemning those who have shown zero consistency in their own condemnation of similar incidents."
In fairness, it was a mass pitch invasion with a multiple pile up thrown in for good measure. Whether you like Arlene Foster or not, she's First Minister of NI at a time that her govt are imposing stricter lockdown measures, it would be remiss of her not to mention the incident as something not to be repeated.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1107 - 24/09/2020 10:29:04    2293871

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I like Tyrone GAA. They are patriots. But the scenes at the county final just gave the enemies of the GAA, eg Stephen Nolan and most of the DUP, a chance to have a go.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 1901 - 24/09/2020 11:09:12    2293883

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