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For those of you who are in to stats the preview available at the site above is an interesting read. Suggests it is not all doom and gloom for Kerry

Still predicts a Dublin win mind

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2113 - 28/08/2019 15:11:39    2230167

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Replying To TrueBlue35:  "I genuinely can't see Kerry keeping us to a scoreline that even keeps them withing touching distance coming the last 5 mins or so. They've conceded 3-10 v Cork, 0-15 v Mayo, 1-20 v Donegal, 1-13 v Meath and 0-18 v Tyrone. Conversely Dublin since the Leinster final have racked up scorelines of 5-18 v Cork, 2-26 v Roscommon, 1-16 v Tyrone and 3-14 v Mayo. I know sport doesn't always follow a pattern or logic but I'd fully expect Dublin to stick anywhere between 3-15 and 3-20 on the scoreboard on Sunday and that is going to win them the game I feel by min 6 points if not more. Ultimately the Kerry defence will be found wanting and given the firepower we have and if it's a shootout then there's only one winner in my eyes."
Just for a bit of context:
It was a Cork team whose fitness could not last past 60 odd minutes, Paul Kerrigan had to be taken off, despite the havoc he was causing, because he ran himself into the ground.
It was a Roscommon team with no belief than knew their season was over once Tyrone turned them over the week before.
It was the Tyrone B team.
And it was a Mayo team on the road for 7 out of 8 weeks, had put in a massive performance the Saturday before and had put so much into that first half that they were running on empty. Add in the fact they lost the heads when Dublin's first goal went in.
Context is everything and Kerry have had the tougher opponents and tougher route to the final.

Dublin are still rightly favorites but Kerry have youth, pace, skill, confidence and huge hunger.
Can it tip the balance, Sunday will tell I suppose.

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 28/08/2019 15:41:32    2230183

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Replying To Ciarrai Abu:  "Kerry will be pleased with their progression this year regardless of result Sunday, will they beat Dublin ... no! Dublin by anything less than 7 would be a shock.

Let's no over romanticise the entire thing here, the facts of why we have such a unbalanced GAA Senior Football Championship were published for all to see earlier this year and i'm afraid no amount of RTE reminiscing about Kerry/Dublin finals of years past will change the outcome on Sunday or for the foreseeable future!

Unfortunately for Dublin GAA fans, in light of this they will never receive the credit of teams past ... and maybe that's about right as well!

We live in hope!"
Perhaps Kerry teams crave credit. Dubliners arent quite as needy and it matters not what anybody outside of this fine county thinks :)

Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 28/08/2019 15:43:36    2230184

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Just finished watching the MDMA OTB interview and it's so refreshing to see someone involved with Dublin show a bit of personality.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 28/08/2019 18:08:03    2230217

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Replying To Jack_Goff:  "Just finished watching the MDMA OTB interview and it's so refreshing to see someone involved with Dublin show a bit of personality."
There's a lesson for ye there bud.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4748 - 28/08/2019 18:33:18    2230227

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Nice piece on Off The Ball with Darren O'Sullivan and Barry Cahill

https://www.offtheball.com/podcasts/gaa-on-off-the-ball

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8808 - 28/08/2019 19:33:10    2230234

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Charlie Redmond says Dublin GAA struggled to win Leinsters from 1995 to 2011. They only won 10. More then every other county combined for those years.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 28/08/2019 22:30:54    2230291

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Replying To woops:  "Not been on this much lately and wont bother after today until next week.

I think Kerry have a fighter's chance, our full forward line can do as much damage to the Dubs as the Dubs full forward line can do to us.
I think the pivotal outcome comes down to how we handle the Dublin midfield. Brian Fenton is player of the year for me by a long shot..even though Con O Callaghan might get it if he has a blinder in the final. The talk in kerry is Jack Barry has played well on him in the league this year and in a league final...getting carried away bigtime with this. JB has hardly played this year and been very poor for a few seasons now. I would start Spillane on him and tell him give us 35 mins of your life and swap him out for the second half.
It's a game we could get a hammering if our backline is a total shambles but i would be confident someone has their finger in the dam!

We can win the game if we get 3 goals. here's hoping!!"
Welcome Back!
Think Kerry definitely have a chance.
Tommy Walsh could be the one.

traleeexile (Kerry) - Posts: 732 - 28/08/2019 23:08:22    2230303

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Kerry realistically will need to sore 3/4 goals to have any chance of toppling the Dub$ ..

BeJasus (UK) - Posts: 383 - 29/08/2019 07:50:48    2230321

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Replying To Jack_Goff:  "Charlie Redmond says Dublin GAA struggled to win Leinsters from 1995 to 2011. They only won 10. More then every other county combined for those years."
U might want to revisit that there Jack..............!!!

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 29/08/2019 09:28:01    2230337

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Don't be painting everyone with your own disingenuous Kerry brush ;)

I'm given my honest opinion though

Take from that what you will

I think Dublin may have peaked a game early but in fairness they needed to do so as they were outfought for 38 minutes

35 games unbeaten now

Unfortunately I don't think it'll be 36

I have a feeling that Keane will win the tactical battle and Dublin will have a performance that won't match the 2nd half against Mayo

You've a fine team and may the best team win"
Fair play Jim. I have been racking my brains to imagine ways that Kerry might win but ultimately I think Dublin are too good and too experienced for now. I hope I am pleasantly surprised.

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2113 - 29/08/2019 12:37:38    2230399

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Replying To Jack_Goff:  "Charlie Redmond says Dublin GAA struggled to win Leinsters from 1995 to 2011. They only won 10. More then every other county combined for those years."
They won 6 not 10
They went 7 years without one and another 3 years till their next one

keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 29/08/2019 13:28:12    2230409

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Replying To keithlemon:  "They won 6 not 10
They went 7 years without one and another 3 years till their next one"
I think Jack was counting in binary there and may have meant 0110. He's carrying more chips around than Macaris.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4748 - 29/08/2019 17:59:54    2230496

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Replying To Joxer:  "I think Jack was counting in binary there and may have meant 0110. He's carrying more chips around than Macaris."
Dublin won in 1995, 2002, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011.

Wouldn't exactly say the were struggling to win lenister.

kevin03 (Tyrone) - Posts: 280 - 29/08/2019 18:13:17    2230501

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On paper this game is easy to big up, you have two great rivals playing each other, the two most successful teams in the country, with one going for the never before achieved 5 senior All-Ireland's in a row and their oppostion being the team who just missed out on the same honour by 1 single point in 1982.

It's facinating on paper but I'm sorry Kerry folk, the reality is this a non event.

This Dublin team will not be beaten on Sunday and unless someone dramatically improves out of nowhere, they won't be beaten next year either.

Huge occasion, but the result is not in doubt.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 29/08/2019 18:59:45    2230514

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Looking forward to the game - hope it is a contest. Wishing the Dublin & Kerry fans an enjoyable day. Kerry have nothing to lose & Dublin have nothing to prove.

greysoil (Monaghan) - Posts: 967 - 29/08/2019 22:08:33    2230542

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Any Kerry lads staying in Citywest tomorrow night if you want to pass a few hours Round Towers are playing St Mary's in a big regulation division 2 game in Saggart at 6.30. A local derby it should be fun, Mary's pitch is 5 minutes from the hotel behind the church.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 30/08/2019 18:54:51    2230795

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Good luck to Dublin and Kerry HS posters this weekend. All Ireland final weekend is special when your own county is involved.

May da best team win although I'll admit I hope to see the 5 in a row completed and Jim, Cluxton etc can all ride off into da sunset ;)

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11679 - 31/08/2019 08:45:28    2230894

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Good luck to Dublin and Kerry HS posters this weekend. All Ireland final weekend is special when your own county is involved.

May da best team win although I'll admit I hope to see the 5 in a row completed and Jim, Cluxton etc can all ride off into da sunset ;)"
Haha same!!

lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 758 - 31/08/2019 09:24:00    2230901

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Any Kerry lads staying in Citywest tomorrow night if you want to pass a few hours Round Towers are playing St Mary's in a big regulation division 2 game in Saggart at 6.30. A local derby it should be fun, Mary's pitch is 5 minutes from the hotel behind the church."
Cheers for that, for anyone around the Big Smoke this evening the great Dara Ó Cinneide will be presenting an All-Ireland special of his radio show in Pipers Corner on Marlborough Street on Saturday at 6.30 pm. All welcome.
I'm told that pub is a refurbished and reopened version of Sean O'Casey which was a great Kerry pub and always a destination on All Ireland weekend for me, it was buzzing before the final in 2014 but sadly closed about a year after. Great to see it get a new lease of life and looking forward to stopping in today or tomorrow!!!

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 31/08/2019 09:55:00    2230915

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