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Kerry V Donegal

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Watching Kerry's opening 35 mins yesterday was sobering & yet was probably the best thing for the Donegal management to see.

Kerry were devastating but there are a few things I'm sure Declan will be working on this week.
1 Kerry lorded it in the middle of the field & I would expect Donegal to crowd that area with big men like Murph, McFadden & Jason McGee.
2 There is no way in the world David Clifford will be left one on one. A full time sweeper will also be on the menu.

Sort that out & it will be easy peasy!

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 4973 - 15/07/2019 09:16:22    2211166

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Replying To MuckrossHead:  "Watching Kerry's opening 35 mins yesterday was sobering & yet was probably the best thing for the Donegal management to see.

Kerry were devastating but there are a few things I'm sure Declan will be working on this week.
1 Kerry lorded it in the middle of the field & I would expect Donegal to crowd that area with big men like Murph, McFadden & Jason McGee.
2 There is no way in the world David Clifford will be left one on one. A full time sweeper will also be on the menu.

Sort that out & it will be easy peasy!"
Aye it was top notch stuff from Kerry yesterday. David Moran was imperious in the middle. That gave them the platform to feed Clifford regularly and the young man certainly obliged. What a player this kid is!

I would add a third point to your two.

Stephen O'Brien's penetrating runs are near impossible to stop without fouling. We saw Meath create numerous openings yesterday running hard through our defense. At this stage I would hazard a guess that Odhran McFadden-Ferry will be given the arduous task of tracking him. In Croke Park too!

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 7023 - 15/07/2019 09:58:57    2211197

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yep next saturday is going to be easy peasy . this is first time since Dublin last year that we will have come up against a set of 6 scoring forwards, it really will be a great benchmark for where the boys really are in the pecking order .

ulsterrules (Donegal) - Posts: 169 - 15/07/2019 10:03:28    2211200

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Pity it's not up in Donegal or Killarney, will many travel to croke park

PyatPree (Cork) - Posts: 376 - 15/07/2019 10:19:19    2211212

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Kerry looking class again. Hugely strong physically. Able to play long and fast. Great mid field. They sorted out defense too. Killarney match was perfect for them.

Does all this mean we are going to get beaten? I am not sure. Both teams as young as each other. We need to improve in areas to compete with them. All will be revealed next Sunday but we are looking at a meeting of 2 in form teams.

Goals will be key.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3745 - 15/07/2019 10:32:18    2211224

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Replying To PyatPree:  "Pity it's not up in Donegal or Killarney, will many travel to croke park"
I would have thought so. Meath v Mayo is on beforehand also so I'd expect in the region of 55k for this one

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 3997 - 15/07/2019 11:17:29    2211250

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People talking Kerry up now big time. Perhaps rightly so but only time will tell. Munster Final was hard to judge them but we saw on Saturday that Cork have come a long way in 12 months. We still can't be sure where Mayo are at the moment but it doesn't look good for them. We'll learn a lot about Kerry and Donegal next weekend. Should be good

Sindar (Roscommon) - Posts: 270 - 15/07/2019 11:24:53    2211255

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Our best hope will be vs Mayo in the last game but that will also be tough. This Kerry team is serious.

TheRock2121 (Donegal) - Posts: 538 - 15/07/2019 11:31:23    2211258

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Replying To Sindar:  "People talking Kerry up now big time. Perhaps rightly so but only time will tell. Munster Final was hard to judge them but we saw on Saturday that Cork have come a long way in 12 months. We still can't be sure where Mayo are at the moment but it doesn't look good for them. We'll learn a lot about Kerry and Donegal next weekend. Should be good"
This Kerry team by and large are only starting out. We'll learn more about Donegal too when they play Kerry with plenty people talking Donegal up for quite some time now. The Ulster Championship was competitive but how good really is the standard after? Personally I see no side coming within a mile of Dublin this season. As for Donegal vs Kerry, I think it will be a very tight game and nothing much if anything between he teams. A drawn game here would be no surprise.

Kingdomson (Kerry) - Posts: 235 - 15/07/2019 11:43:07    2211266

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Replying To cavanman47:  "I would have thought so. Meath v Mayo is on beforehand also so I'd expect in the region of 55k for this one"
I'll wait for the final :-)

Superglue (Kerry) - Posts: 1283 - 15/07/2019 11:56:29    2211273

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Replying To cavanman47:  "I would have thought so. Meath v Mayo is on beforehand also so I'd expect in the region of 55k for this one"
Let's hope, nothing worse then looking at an empty croke park

PyatPree (Cork) - Posts: 376 - 15/07/2019 12:00:16    2211277

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Going to be a cracker! Really looking forward to this one. Can't call it. Before the weekend I thought Donegal would top the group but not so sure now!

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13089 - 15/07/2019 12:16:00    2211286

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Replying To Kingdomson:  "This Kerry team by and large are only starting out. We'll learn more about Donegal too when they play Kerry with plenty people talking Donegal up for quite some time now. The Ulster Championship was competitive but how good really is the standard after? Personally I see no side coming within a mile of Dublin this season. As for Donegal vs Kerry, I think it will be a very tight game and nothing much if anything between he teams. A drawn game here would be no surprise."
Kerry were the most impressive team I saw this year so far. Would defo give the dubs their fill of it.

I won't rule ourselves out of the fixture this weekend, but u r right, ulster football is muck at the moment. Cork showed surprisingly well v Dublin meaning u can gague form from Munster final.

We will have to score goals. We will have to be a bit better with ball into key men. We will have to consider starting gallen. Full backs needs to be very accurate in timing tackles. Meath gave us problems and Kerry most certainly will be more direct. Also need a bigger improvement in the middle.

I like what we are doing this year. All in all I think we have really improved. Let's see how much this coming Sunday.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3745 - 15/07/2019 12:52:32    2211316

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The battle on the kickout as highlighted on the Sunday Game is going to be interesting. Both teams, like Dublin, are very far down the road compared to most other teams in having strategies in place for tackling the oppositions kickout. The difference between Mayo and Meath in this regard compared to their opponents last weekend was there for all to see. Kerry and Donegal have put a ton of work into this.
I think Donegal won't be as wasteful or as sloppy as Mayo. I would still wonder how much some Kerry players have in their legs. The only criticism I would have of Kerry was that they did slack off in the last 10 minutes even though the game was won. If Donegal are within 2 or 3 I reckon they have enough in the tank to peg Kerry back.
But if Kerry are allowed to repeat their quick accurate passing and shooting game, break even at midfield and keep their discipline then I reckon they win this. If the game goes to a shoot out, Kerry have that little bit more up front

Either way, we're going to be treated to another excellent match and I'd still expect both teams to be making up the semi final placings.

keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 15/07/2019 13:25:27    2211337

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Really looking forward to this one, the winner of this game will be a genuine threat to Dublin, I'm still not convinced on either side but the momentum that this game will give the winner will take some stopping.

Barrowsider (Carlow) - Posts: 1298 - 15/07/2019 13:26:11    2211338

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Ive a sneaky feeling Donegal will win this one.
We haven't won a big game in croke park since 2015.
Should be a fascinating game really looking forward to it.

westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1224 - 15/07/2019 14:18:38    2211370

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This game will be 50/50 both teams have been studying eachother for the last 3 weeks, both teams will give up scoring chances and it'l just come down to who makes the most of them simple as that.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 11501 - 15/07/2019 14:20:58    2211372

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Think this game will be won and lost in the kick out strategy, Patton isn't the easy target Clarke is on kick outs, in fact he is in line for an All Star in my opinion, he had developed a unique style of accuracy and speed at a low height and really evolved the kick out following on from Cluxton and Beggan.

Given that I can't see Kerry winning as much ball high up the field and midfield as they did yesterday. Without that foundation Kerry might struggle triggering their forwards, while their defense may be that bit more under pressure and will need to step up.

That said Donegal looked a bit shaken with the running game yesterday. So who can ever get the better of the kick outs, wins ball and can trigger their forwards and wins procession in the main comes home with the two points for me.

This game will hinge on those aspects.

Your all very welcome to the City, enjoy!! ;)

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 3527 - 15/07/2019 14:37:24    2211376

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Think this game will be won and lost in the kick out strategy, Patton isn't the easy target Clarke is on kick outs, in fact he is in line for an All Star in my opinion, he had developed a unique style of accuracy and speed at a low height and really evolved the kick out following on from Cluxton and Beggan.

Given that I can't see Kerry winning as much ball high up the field and midfield as they did yesterday. Without that foundation Kerry might struggle triggering their forwards, while their defense may be that bit more under pressure and will need to step up.

That said Donegal looked a bit shaken with the running game yesterday. So who can ever get the better of the kick outs, wins ball and can trigger their forwards and wins procession in the main comes home with the two points for me.

This game will hinge on those aspects.

Your all very welcome to the City, enjoy!! ;)"
Yeah, we're all looking forward to travelling to Dublin's home pitch. Amazing what home comforts can do for a team, isn't it? Ah well, Donegal and Kerry both now in the same boat next weekend by playing on a neutral ground, the way it should be, the right way, with honour. Jeez, imagine what Kerry could win if we played every single game in Killarney?

Kingdomson (Kerry) - Posts: 235 - 15/07/2019 14:47:57    2211382

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Think this game will be won and lost in the kick out strategy, Patton isn't the easy target Clarke is on kick outs, in fact he is in line for an All Star in my opinion, he had developed a unique style of accuracy and speed at a low height and really evolved the kick out following on from Cluxton and Beggan.

Given that I can't see Kerry winning as much ball high up the field and midfield as they did yesterday. Without that foundation Kerry might struggle triggering their forwards, while their defense may be that bit more under pressure and will need to step up.

That said Donegal looked a bit shaken with the running game yesterday. So who can ever get the better of the kick outs, wins ball and can trigger their forwards and wins procession in the main comes home with the two points for me.

This game will hinge on those aspects.

Your all very welcome to the City, enjoy!! ;)"
Yeah my thoughts too. Kerry will find it much harder next week. They still have enough to cause Donegal problems though. Donegal are not as solid defensively as they are being made out to be.

I'd put Donegal as slight favourites because of their strength in the middle will probably negate Moran. Really looking forward to this.

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1922 - 15/07/2019 15:08:24    2211397

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