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A little pessimistic for my liking. We didn't have Dee or jippo really last year either and we probably should have been in the Leinster final. I don't think it's quite win or bust as you've put it. I think reaching the Leinster final is a reasonable ambition. If I were a betting man we'll probably finish third by the puck of s ball like we usually do. I'm not confident of staying up in this group but I don't care. Developing some players is more important right now. Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3282 - 19/01/2025 20:04:52 2586428 Link 0 |
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Looking at na Fianna today would make you a little bit green. The Martin's were closest to them....what any all Ireland at any level might do for the county....... Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3282 - 19/01/2025 20:07:38 2586430 Link 0 |
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Agreed, wouldn't rule out a similar outcome to the game last year.
OpenStandWall (Wexford) - Posts: 160 - 19/01/2025 21:41:26 2586451 Link 0 |
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hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1035 - 19/01/2025 21:54:32 2586453 Link 0 |
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Well next year you are probably going to get at least 5 more retirements if this year is a failure the spark of this current wexford team will just die out not alot of underage success. I don't think alot of people see this coming. I hate being negative but unfortunately that's what's coming down the tracks.
Jimbob96 (Wexford) - Posts: 17 - 19/01/2025 22:21:30 2586469 Link 0 |
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I agree but Na Fianna really opened up the legs in Croke Park today, that heavy pitch in Parnell suited some of the Martins lads like Daithi Watters and a few others but then you also have ROC who would be well suited to Croker aswel.
Past hurler (None) - Posts: 849 - 19/01/2025 23:45:11 2586487 Link 0 |
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Loughrea and Kilmacud were far closer. Last puck scores won them both games.
countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 757 - 20/01/2025 01:42:27 2586490 Link 0 |
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At least 3 if not 4 of those 5 could probably do with retiring now. They aren't good enough. And I disagree we have noone coming through to replace them. We have plenty of lads who lost 2 u20 Leinster finals by less than a score in an era where it's much harder to win one. We need some of these lads to get more gametime and make the transition to Senior. We also have lads around 26/27 who also lost a Leinster u21 final by the puck of a ball to Galway in 2018. There was no Galway, no decent Offaly, and Kilkenny were poor when we won the 3 in a row u21s. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14295 - 20/01/2025 06:57:11 2586492 Link 0 |
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Who would you think would be the 5? The age profile isn't that bad if you take chinner out of it Mogie if he doesn't finish this year. Fanning and Donohue? We would probably improve. Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3282 - 20/01/2025 08:07:00 2586495 Link 0 |
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Just having a look out of the core players there Mac, jippo and Jack are 30 this year. Chin is 33 Outside of that the recks and Rory still have a bit to go. There's still talent from the 19 minor team starting to come up like Lawlor, Molloy, scallan etc. Cian bryne, CBD, Eoin Ryan and c Foley got going last year. Rossi's two under 20 teams weren't successful but weren't far off either Last year's minors were very good The 14,15 group last year was excellent. I wouldn't be writing the obituary just yet. Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3282 - 20/01/2025 09:22:20 2586505 Link 0 |
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Anyone hear what the team and subs was in Waterford yesterday? Looking forward to Saturday although we have a big task Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 405 - 20/01/2025 10:46:09 2586527 Link 0 |
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The 16s got to the Michael Foley A Cup final also.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14295 - 20/01/2025 11:05:46 2586537 Link 0 |
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I agree that I think in the next few years we are in trouble, we are gonna lose so much experience and its hard to see youth teams replacing the likes of lads that will be stepping away. Wouldn't be surprised if we are in a constant Joe McDonagh battle in a few years time. WEXILE (Wexford) - Posts: 315 - 20/01/2025 11:18:03 2586541 Link 0 |
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Would you think Dublin, Kilkenny or Galway are producing significantly better underage teams than us right now or in the last decade? Offaly and Kilkenny have each had a very good team in that time but they weren't way ahead of us. Dublin were in the Leinster final last year without making any waves as such. Kilkenny seem to be having the same problem in that they're relying on the same core players and even the Same subs. Not saying all is well but I'm not seeing us falling significantly behind either. Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3282 - 20/01/2025 12:05:26 2586558 Link 0 |
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Which players are you talking about there? We were within a whisker of getting to a Leinster Final last year, with Chin not playing well after going off injured against Carlow, without Dee all year, without Mac playing well in the big games again, with Dooley and Dunbar not in any kind of form either, Jacko missed alot of it injured also, and Jippo also missed most of it. Kevin Foleys form dipped after a bad game in the last League game against Cork. On form, fitness, availability, and more particularly consistent end product in the Championship, over the last couple of years, Chin will be hard to replace when he retires, and Jippo if he can't play again although we do have more big good backs coming through than forwards, and Mogie. The others wont be. Hopefully over the next couple of years we have younger players coming through who will replace them, and be better more consistent Wexford hurlers. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14295 - 20/01/2025 12:09:47 2586560 Link 0 |
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I think Dublin are starting to bring through some really good hurlers in the 21 to 25 age bracket. It will be interesting to see how they perform under their new management team. Past hurler (None) - Posts: 849 - 20/01/2025 13:13:16 2586573 Link 0 |
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They have some good young players coming through for sure, but I wouldn't say they were any better than the lads we have coming through.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14295 - 20/01/2025 13:31:48 2586579 Link 0 |
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Well looking at age profile, travelling, injuries, retirement and form alone in the next few years we can expect to lose: McGovern Chin if he stays is constantly battling an injury Liam Ryan (might never hurl again for Wexford) O'Hanlon - gone O'keefe - gone Then you've lads near or at 30, baring in mind the age of retirement is getting younger in intercounty Kevin Foley - form dipped not getting younger either Jack O must be 30 now is he? Conor McDonald near 30? Donohoe near 30? Fanning tipping around 30 also? You've 2 Foleys that could play but won't, that's up to then You've also lads that could play at this level but also won't in Kehoe, Carty , AJ Redmond, You've also lads in there rather are prone to the odd injury like Rory O Connor l, he did well to stay fit last year but he's got an overuse injury in one knee that won't improve I'm sure I'm missing someone else but put them all together and it's very hard to see us not struggling sorry All the while where is our Adam Screeneys etc. coming out of u20s? We've a few good chaps granted but no superstars yet and lads we can't be waxing lyrical about a chap in transition year for God sake WEXILE (Wexford) - Posts: 315 - 20/01/2025 14:17:42 2586590 Link 0 |
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Whether I do or don't think they've better teams at underage than us doesn't matter. Offaly are going in the right direction, there's plenty of talent coming through in Dublin and they'll be going on to a younger Dublin team so they'll be competitive for the near future. Kilkenny and Galway will always have competitive senior teams regardless of underage, they get enough through. Always have always will. We might beat em they odd time When we start producing top lads that go onto our senior team en masse then I'll be optimistic WEXILE (Wexford) - Posts: 315 - 20/01/2025 14:25:08 2586594 Link 0 |
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No team in the country is producing top lads at scale. Clare are the current champions backed by a once in a generation team from 2013 Limerick the same but a little later Kilkenny did it in the 00s but aren't now. Galway are traditionally excellent at underage which has amounted to only 4 senior all Irelands in their history, ranking lower than us and Dublin and level with Clare. There's absolutely no evidence that Dublin are producing better players than us at any underage grade at present. I've already explained why. Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3282 - 20/01/2025 15:52:42 2586621 Link 0 |