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Replying To rorysboys:  "We'll agree to disagree Conor o donnell only about 70% fit yet started. Hasn't played football in almost a year"
Sorry I mean 100% medically ok. The only way you get match fit is to play matches. Louth was the perfect match for this. Eoin was the same when he was medically ok, he was lacking match sharpness in the first match or so but look at him now, back to his best.

Scenicparish (Donegal) - Posts: 361 - 01/07/2024 21:18:01    2556384

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Replying To greenfan:  "Its clear from the limited number of players that Jim is using that he doesn't see the squad as being as good as some people think it is, we don't have the depth. That can be seen also from how quickly he has tried to get Conor O'Donnell back into the team. Even with Jason McGee being injured yesterday, he didn't take anyone into the 26."
Conor is one of our best scoring forwards and two footed. He needs match sharpness. That's why he started against Louth.

Scenicparish (Donegal) - Posts: 361 - 01/07/2024 21:20:50    2556386

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Replying To rorysboys:  "We'll agree to disagree Conor o donnell only about 70% fit yet started. Hasn't played football in almost a year"
I'd say he is 100% fit just not 100% match fit. The only way to get that is to get minutes under the belt.

I think the other poster implied that players with knocks or injuries still played under previous management.

We've had injuries this season too but managing them back well like Ban, COD, McColgan, McGee. Etc.

FootballGuy (Donegal) - Posts: 240 - 01/07/2024 21:34:27    2556394

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Replying To rorysboys:  "Yea but unfortunately injury hampered us a lot in 2018 and 2019 .Mc brearty flying in 2018 and eoin ban in 2019 mc Guinness lucky so far and hopefully it stays that way we can ill afford any thing to happen our star players.. because we're using the same subs every week so squad not as strong as some of us believe. I believe we need more out of Niall o donnell , Daire o baoill and ciaran Thompson, if we get these playing well in the semis we're well on our way. Can't believe the room mogan and mc Hugh got, who will Galway put on them it'll be interesting. I felt our full back line were a bit slack yesterday but no doubt mc Guinness will have noticed it. Mark Curran is the interesting one I think he'll start against Galway yesterdays team was very attack minded but against Galway we need to be wary of comer finnerty and Walsh if he plays.. the picking up of Walsh will be vital he plays all over the place and is very dangerous when he gets running."
If Walsh is fit, you'll see Ban picking him up and putting him on the back foot. McCole on Comer and Moore on Finnerty.

peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 880 - 01/07/2024 22:26:42    2556403

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Replying To greenfan:  "Its clear from the limited number of players that Jim is using that he doesn't see the squad as being as good as some people think it is, we don't have the depth. That can be seen also from how quickly he has tried to get Conor O'Donnell back into the team. Even with Jason McGee being injured yesterday, he didn't take anyone into the 26."
Can't say I agree. 27 different players used in Championship. 20 different scorers too. Considering he hasn't even dipped into the U20 squad either, I'd call that a pretty clear vote of confidence in the depth of the squad...

SurelyToGod (Donegal) - Posts: 414 - 01/07/2024 22:44:43    2556404

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I don't really get this line that we don't have any squad depth either.

Odhran Doherty kept us in the Ulster Final
Aaron Doherty won us the Ulster Final
Jeaic McKelvey always contributes brilliantly when he comes on
Jamie Brennan on form is good enough to start
McMenamin is a great back to bring on in a physical encounter
Hugh McFadden can still offer 15-20 minutes
Mark Curran is unlucky not to be starting at the mo
McGiolla Bride is getting plenty of action
Kevin McGettigan has made a contribution
Mulreany is great option instead of Patton


McGuinness is more trusting of the squad this year than in 2012

David Walsh
McElhinney
Brick

Can't remember too many more coming on regularly back then.

Al_Maguire (Donegal) - Posts: 255 - 02/07/2024 00:57:18    2556415

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Replying To FootballGuy:  "I'd say he is 100% fit just not 100% match fit. The only way to get that is to get minutes under the belt.

I think the other poster implied that players with knocks or injuries still played under previous management.

We've had injuries this season too but managing them back well like Ban, COD, McColgan, McGee. Etc."
Totally agree

Scenicparish (Donegal) - Posts: 361 - 02/07/2024 07:04:18    2556420

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Replying To SurelyToGod:  "Can't say I agree. 27 different players used in Championship. 20 different scorers too. Considering he hasn't even dipped into the U20 squad either, I'd call that a pretty clear vote of confidence in the depth of the squad..."
Don't agree when you start taking on players who have already been taken off it tells its own story. You say 27 players played yes they did when games were win.. but I'm happy enough , if we lose a few players then the trouble starts but thankfully injuries are good at the moment

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2517 - 02/07/2024 09:04:12    2556428

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Replying To Scenicparish:  "Conor is one of our best scoring forwards and two footed. He needs match sharpness. That's why he started against Louth."
Stop changing the goal post. You accuse other managers of playing unfit players yet when I bring up Conor o donnell it's he needs game time so it's all right to play him. Do you not think other managers we're giving game time to certain players too..

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2517 - 02/07/2024 09:09:40    2556430

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Replying To peiledoir20:  "If Walsh is fit, you'll see Ban picking him up and putting him on the back foot. McCole on Comer and Moore on Finnerty."
Would Moore not be a good tag on Tierney? I wouldn't mind Curran coming back in and picking up Finnerty

CCFabu (Donegal) - Posts: 121 - 02/07/2024 09:14:41    2556432

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I did some basic arithmitic yesterday and counted our scores in this years Championship.
7-132 in 7 matches = an average of just under 0-22 a game. Obviously the challenges becaome greater as the competition progresses but if we can get near the 0-20 mark against Galway we won't be too far away I reckon.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9300 - 02/07/2024 09:54:58    2556441

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Replying To SurelyToGod:  "Can't say I agree. 27 different players used in Championship. 20 different scorers too. Considering he hasn't even dipped into the U20 squad either, I'd call that a pretty clear vote of confidence in the depth of the squad..."
I think if you look closer and look at when some of those players were used , you'll see some were taken in when games were already won. Like Hugh McFadden on Sunday, just given a token run out and a few of the subs used in the Clare game taken in when the game was over as a contest. In reality, when games are closer, we've been using the 15 from Sunday, plus Jason McGee and the same few subs most days.

greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 515 - 02/07/2024 10:08:52    2556444

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Replying To Donegal_abroad:  "What's the mood like in Galway after the weekend? I loved the Galway Bay FM audio of the victory, was brilliant. After a final in 2022 and a close run thing against Kerry, I would imagine there is a belief that they can go the whole way this year now with accounting for Dublin."
To be honest relief getting a major monkey off our back. We have a relatively decent record in championship against all top football counties (including Kerry) bar Dublin. Our game with ye imo is 50/50 and I suspect both believe the all ireland can be won even prior to the semi final. The fact is our three most critical players have injury concerns is where a lot of local thinking is. On your side do you think Jason McGee will make it?

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1970 - 02/07/2024 10:32:34    2556449

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Replying To kiloughter:  "To be honest relief getting a major monkey off our back. We have a relatively decent record in championship against all top football counties (including Kerry) bar Dublin. Our game with ye imo is 50/50 and I suspect both believe the all ireland can be won even prior to the semi final. The fact is our three most critical players have injury concerns is where a lot of local thinking is. On your side do you think Jason McGee will make it?"
I think it's vital for us the McGee is fit to play against Galway, the few weeks will help both teams getting injuries cleared up.
I think if Galway have Comer and Walsh and Kelly fit to start we will have our hands full that's for sure.
I see PP have Galway as odds on fav.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2880 - 02/07/2024 11:52:25    2556467

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Condolences to our former manager Paddy Carr on the death of his father Barney Rip. Great GAA men.
Ar dheis Dé go raibh a anam.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2880 - 02/07/2024 11:57:59    2556470

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Replying To rorysboys:  "Stop changing the goal post. You accuse other managers of playing unfit players yet when I bring up Conor o donnell it's he needs game time so it's all right to play him. Do you not think other managers we're giving game time to certain players too.."
I'm not changing the goal posts. Other managers played players medically unfit not due to lack of match practice. The only way to get match sharpness is to play matches. Louth was the perfect match for that because Conor will probably start against Galway. He is a fantastic forward and will improve considerably after the Louth match.
Eoin Ban's first match back was similar, he was off the pace by his high standards. Now he is back to his brilliant best even making team of the week.
That's my point.

Scenicparish (Donegal) - Posts: 361 - 02/07/2024 12:10:01    2556477

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Replying To greenfan:  "I think if you look closer and look at when some of those players were used , you'll see some were taken in when games were already won. Like Hugh McFadden on Sunday, just given a token run out and a few of the subs used in the Clare game taken in when the game was over as a contest. In reality, when games are closer, we've been using the 15 from Sunday, plus Jason McGee and the same few subs most days."
Yea it's pretty obvious. As long as we keep everyone fit , it won't affect us. What's story on mc gee he didn't participate much in the warm up. Has to be a doubt to start against Galway..,

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2517 - 02/07/2024 12:14:52    2556479

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Replying To Scenicparish:  "Only you can praise Jim and have a dig at him in the same paragraph.
You are a bitter man. The current County Champions still annoying you."
I didn't have a dig at Jim in any way.

I posed a genuine question regarding a panel member that lots of others are wondering about too.

I would never in any way question anything the current mgr is doing as far as I'm concerned giving what he brings - he can do what he likes!

Put the club thing aside and stop trying to take offence to the original question.

I'll ask it again for a genuine discussion ?

eunans4ever (Donegal) - Posts: 1614 - 02/07/2024 12:35:17    2556481

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Replying To TheRock2121:  "What forward should be in the panel instead.?"
Doesn't matter what position he is - it's a genuine question as to what others see that he offers as I am defo struggling to see it ?

eunans4ever (Donegal) - Posts: 1614 - 02/07/2024 12:36:44    2556483

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Replying To Scenicparish:  "I'm not changing the goal posts. Other managers played players medically unfit not due to lack of match practice. The only way to get match sharpness is to play matches. Louth was the perfect match for that because Conor will probably start against Galway. He is a fantastic forward and will improve considerably after the Louth match.
Eoin Ban's first match back was similar, he was off the pace by his high standards. Now he is back to his brilliant best even making team of the week.
That's my point."
I don't think he gets how managing players works……..

eunans4ever (Donegal) - Posts: 1614 - 02/07/2024 12:40:33    2556487

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