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Replying To sourmilk93: "It not because its Jim if any other manager broke the rules they deserved to be punished. Yeah lets give the lad a run out the lad who hasn't even played for his club yet ffs. Its just madness and deserves to be punished for it." So what if he hasn't played for his club at senior, he evidently will for years to come all going well and it's a few days we are talking about here that even made this an issue. If he is another few days older this lad, nobody bats an eyelid. You would swear he played a 15 year old.. "Madness".. a perfect example of your hyperbole. The only madness in this affair is the crocodile tears of concern from you and others around this 'issue.' Just proves how many outside the county care less about Roarty and more about Jim getting it on the chin. Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1379 - 10/01/2024 18:40:10 2519466 Link
Replying To Donegal_abroad: "So what if he hasn't played for his club at senior, he evidently will for years to come all going well and it's a few days we are talking about here that even made this an issue. If he is another few days older this lad, nobody bats an eyelid. You would swear he played a 15 year old.. "Madness".. a perfect example of your hyperbole. The only madness in this affair is the crocodile tears of concern from you and others around this 'issue.' Just proves how many outside the county care less about Roarty and more about Jim getting it on the chin." The reason this issue is dragging on is because people like you don't know the rules and come on here talking rubbish. He is NOT ALLOWED play senior football for Donegal until next Jan. End of story eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1870 - 10/01/2024 20:17:35 2519479 Link
Replying To eoinog: "The reason this issue is dragging on is because people like you don't know the rules and come on here talking rubbish. He is NOT ALLOWED play senior football for Donegal until next Jan. End of story" Yeah but if he was born a few days before he was, he would have been allowed to play this year wouldn't he? Am I wrong about that? Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1379 - 10/01/2024 20:38:40 2519482 Link
Replying To Tirchonaill1: "I think you should be more worried in Mayo about why you bottled every All Ireland final you were in since 1951 than worrying about the goings on in a pre season tournament in Ulster in all fairness. I'll never forget Murphy bursting the Mayo net with that goal in 2012, never heard a set of mouthy fans go quiet so quick." Never forget 2013 either mate think ye lot left pretty quick. S1234 (Mayo) - Posts: 101 - 10/01/2024 20:57:56 2519486 Link
Replying To S1234: "Never forget 2013 either mate think ye lot left pretty quick." What an All-Ireland that was for Mayo NPadraigAbu (Donegal) - Posts: 78 - 10/01/2024 21:17:49 2519493 Link
Replying To S1234: "Never forget 2013 either mate think ye lot left pretty quick." Did you stay for the presentation? themaddog (Wicklow) - Posts: 133 - 10/01/2024 21:18:56 2519494 Link
Replying To S1234: "Never forget 2013 either mate think ye lot left pretty quick." Donegal for Sam, Mayo for sandwiches. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2947 - 10/01/2024 22:00:49 2519501 Link
From what I understand Armagh finished second in our section and yet get a home semi-final? Strange one as I would have thought 2 of the 3 group winners would get home advantage NPadraigAbu (Donegal) - Posts: 78 - 10/01/2024 22:27:25 2519506 Link
Are the GAA going to give money back to the supporters bwho went to the Donegal v Armagh game now that it is declared null and void highdropingball (Donegal) - Posts: 109 - 11/01/2024 01:36:11 2519520 Link
Replying To NPadraigAbu: "From what I understand Armagh finished second in our section and yet get a home semi-final? Strange one as I would have thought 2 of the 3 group winners would get home advantage" I actually think it's better for Donegal to play away from a development perspective. Better experience for young players , they'll benefit more from it than a home game. greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 551 - 11/01/2024 08:20:25 2519528 Link
Replying To greenfan: "I actually think it's better for Donegal to play away from a development perspective. Better experience for young players , they'll benefit more from it than a home game." That's true, no good getting too comfortable at home in Ballybofey, then again in the league we'll probably be playing home games on 3 different pitches as usual! Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2947 - 11/01/2024 09:34:35 2519541 Link
I'm not sure why there is endless debate on this, Was a rule broken? Yes Is the initial punishment harsh? Yes, most would think a 8 week ban is harsh given the specific circumstances in that it was pre-season against an U20 Armagh team. Jim confirmed in an interview after the Armagh game that Roarty and others would be with the U20 squad this season, I honestly don't think this mistake was intentional, it was an oversight during pre-season and while they did break a rule, given the circumstances the punishment shouldn't be that tough. Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1182 - 11/01/2024 10:05:31 2519547 Link
Replying To Commodore: "I'm not sure why there is endless debate on this, Was a rule broken? Yes Is the initial punishment harsh? Yes, most would think a 8 week ban is harsh given the specific circumstances in that it was pre-season against an U20 Armagh team. Jim confirmed in an interview after the Armagh game that Roarty and others would be with the U20 squad this season, I honestly don't think this mistake was intentional, it was an oversight during pre-season and while they did break a rule, given the circumstances the punishment shouldn't be that tough." Exactly. Noone is disputing that a rule was broken but what's up for debate is the severity of the punishment, and also the barely concealed glee that the GAA bogeyman Jim McGuinness is facing a laughable 8 week ban. Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9458 - 11/01/2024 10:52:44 2519567 Link
Replying To greenfan: "I actually think it's better for Donegal to play away from a development perspective. Better experience for young players , they'll benefit more from it than a home game." Yeah I'm not unhappy about it as its another good test against a good team, just strange how they managed to draw the second placed team at home NPadraigAbu (Donegal) - Posts: 78 - 11/01/2024 11:33:47 2519573 Link
Replying To Lockjaw: " Replying To Commodore: "I'm not sure why there is endless debate on this, Was a rule broken? Yes Is the initial punishment harsh? Yes, most would think a 8 week ban is harsh given the specific circumstances in that it was pre-season against an U20 Armagh team. Jim confirmed in an interview after the Armagh game that Roarty and others would be with the U20 squad this season, I honestly don't think this mistake was intentional, it was an oversight during pre-season and while they did break a rule, given the circumstances the punishment shouldn't be that tough." Exactly. Noone is disputing that a rule was broken but what's up for debate is the severity of the punishment, and also the barely concealed glee that the GAA bogeyman Jim McGuinness is facing a laughable 8 week ban." Its not laughable at all, He broke a rule. Should he be let off scot free to do what ever he wants?? come out of the fog will you. There are not many if any managers who don't know the rules so he knew exactly what he was at if he didnt some one else involved with the team did. sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1181 - 11/01/2024 12:55:52 2519592 Link
Replying To sourmilk93: " Replying To Lockjaw: "[quote=Commodore: "I'm not sure why there is endless debate on this, Was a rule broken? Yes Is the initial punishment harsh? Yes, most would think a 8 week ban is harsh given the specific circumstances in that it was pre-season against an U20 Armagh team. Jim confirmed in an interview after the Armagh game that Roarty and others would be with the U20 squad this season, I honestly don't think this mistake was intentional, it was an oversight during pre-season and while they did break a rule, given the circumstances the punishment shouldn't be that tough." Exactly. Noone is disputing that a rule was broken but what's up for debate is the severity of the punishment, and also the barely concealed glee that the GAA bogeyman Jim McGuinness is facing a laughable 8 week ban." Its not laughable at all, He broke a rule. Should he be let off scot free to do what ever he wants?? come out of the fog will you. There are not many if any managers who don't know the rules so he knew exactly what he was at if he didnt some one else involved with the team did."]Dont you be worrying about Jim because if Roscommon make it to the latter stages of the All Ireland Championship Jim and Donegal will be on the sideline to sort ye out. Ye normally get a nosebleed when ye get out of Connacht. Scenicparish (Donegal) - Posts: 402 - 11/01/2024 13:25:08 2519603 Link
Replying To sourmilk93: " Replying To Lockjaw: "[quote=Commodore: "I'm not sure why there is endless debate on this, Was a rule broken? Yes Is the initial punishment harsh? Yes, most would think a 8 week ban is harsh given the specific circumstances in that it was pre-season against an U20 Armagh team. Jim confirmed in an interview after the Armagh game that Roarty and others would be with the U20 squad this season, I honestly don't think this mistake was intentional, it was an oversight during pre-season and while they did break a rule, given the circumstances the punishment shouldn't be that tough." Exactly. Noone is disputing that a rule was broken but what's up for debate is the severity of the punishment, and also the barely concealed glee that the GAA bogeyman Jim McGuinness is facing a laughable 8 week ban." Its not laughable at all, He broke a rule. Should he be let off scot free to do what ever he wants?? come out of the fog will you. There are not many if any managers who don't know the rules so he knew exactly what he was at if he didnt some one else involved with the team did."]Where have I said that no punishment is warranted? A fine and a sideline ban for the remainder of the McKenna Cup would have been more appropriate. You have players getting away scot-free for outright assault at times, and then they're dishing out 2 month bans for playing a player who was born 4 days the wrong side of the calendar. It's hardly like he was 15 or something. Think it's you who's fumbling about in the fog sir. Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9458 - 11/01/2024 13:36:44 2519608 Link
Replying To Scenicparish: " Replying To sourmilk93: "[quote=Lockjaw: "[quote=Commodore: "I'm not sure why there is endless debate on this, Was a rule broken? Yes Is the initial punishment harsh? Yes, most would think a 8 week ban is harsh given the specific circumstances in that it was pre-season against an U20 Armagh team. Jim confirmed in an interview after the Armagh game that Roarty and others would be with the U20 squad this season, I honestly don't think this mistake was intentional, it was an oversight during pre-season and while they did break a rule, given the circumstances the punishment shouldn't be that tough." Exactly. Noone is disputing that a rule was broken but what's up for debate is the severity of the punishment, and also the barely concealed glee that the GAA bogeyman Jim McGuinness is facing a laughable 8 week ban." Its not laughable at all, He broke a rule. Should he be let off scot free to do what ever he wants?? come out of the fog will you. There are not many if any managers who don't know the rules so he knew exactly what he was at if he didnt some one else involved with the team did."]Dont you be worrying about Jim because if Roscommon make it to the latter stages of the All Ireland Championship Jim and Donegal will be on the sideline to sort ye out. Ye normally get a nosebleed when ye get out of Connacht."]I think these 'concerned fans of the welfare of Donegal players' who all interestingly hail from other counties - will accept nothing short of a public flagellation, exorcism, and crucifixion. On the plus side, we might find out if he's truly the messiah after all. Al_Maguire (Donegal) - Posts: 257 - 11/01/2024 13:47:17 2519611 Link
Replying To Commodore: "I'm not sure why there is endless debate on this, Was a rule broken? Yes Is the initial punishment harsh? Yes, most would think a 8 week ban is harsh given the specific circumstances in that it was pre-season against an U20 Armagh team. Jim confirmed in an interview after the Armagh game that Roarty and others would be with the U20 squad this season, I honestly don't think this mistake was intentional, it was an oversight during pre-season and while they did break a rule, given the circumstances the punishment shouldn't be that tough." They broke a rule clear as day, and not only that, McGuinness publically signalled intent to file an appeal before any suspension was handed out. If he had kept his mouth shut he may have gotten less. SurelyToGod (Donegal) - Posts: 422 - 11/01/2024 14:01:46 2519616 Link
I heard McGuinness say in an interview weeks before Christmas that he intended to bring talented young players into the setup.Murphy and McBrearty were in as 17 teen year olds.Roarty and Senan Carr from last years minors were brought in and both started the game against Armagh.They were obviously unaware that Roarty was underage.They probably thought that playing them against an Under 20 team would be a good opportunity for them the age group that they will be playing against this year anyway.There was no stroke being pulled as there was no advantage to be gained by playing them.Carr was not played against a more seasoned Tyrone team.Technically a rule was broken and whose job it was to know about it and Roarty's age I don't know but an 8 week ban and points deduction would be a big penalty for much greater indiscretions .After all there was no advantage to be gained or welfare issues ignored due to the age of the opposition.All this must be taken in to account. gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1107 - 11/01/2024 14:28:48 2519624 Link