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Seeing as Leitrim have beaten Laois already no reason why they can't do it in the final , very few chances of winning a cup playing intercounty!
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Replying To lugdrum: "An absolute disgrace. Most club players have have lads in Dublin who are asked to come home almost every weekend to play for the club. The one weekend the county is playing in Croke park they fix club games for Sunday at 1pm. It's spring league not proper league. Fix them for mid week in a few weeks time when the evenings get longer. It's not too late to do the right thing and just call them off." There's not many clubs in Leitrim who could accommodate a midweek fixture. Clubs will just conceded games and that was already a problem up to now. And what happens if we go on a run in the Tailteann and there's talk about postponing games further down the line? Arranging fixtures is not an easy job...
Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1031 - 25/03/2024 14:52:21
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Exactly already games have to be refixed from last weekend. Pushing them back will just lead to problems down the line. It's not ideal playing them on Sunday but there isn't really any other choice. Lad's will have to play with a sore head after the celebrations (hopefully) from the night before, but every player in the county will be in the same boat. Reality is the spring league games are only glorified challenge games. I couldn't tell you who won it last year or the year before that for that matter.
Leitrimforliam (Leitrim) - Posts: 326 - 25/03/2024 15:10:28
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Replying To Leitrimforliam: "Fully agree. But I suppose everyone will be in the same boat Sunday morning though can't imagine too many club lads will miss out on celebrating this occasion for a Spring league game the following day. Also some games have already been postponed for weather and deaths last weekend as well as a game called off for fighting. So it is already a fixture nightmare." When the days get longer next week, they can surely run them off of a Tues/Wed night if they run out of weekends before the league proper starts. These games often only serve as challenge games and a few games conceded towards the end every year, so no reason to be asking lads to put their lives on hold for them.
gaelsboy (Leitrim) - Posts: 569 - 25/03/2024 15:16:01
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Replying To gaelsboy: "When the days get longer next week, they can surely run them off of a Tues/Wed night if they run out of weekends before the league proper starts. These games often only serve as challenge games and a few games conceded towards the end every year, so no reason to be asking lads to put their lives on hold for them." Most lads are away during the week in dublin/galway etc (2 hours away) and finish work at 5-6. Expecting them to come home midweek for a 7 o'clock kick off is unfair. As you said these games only serve as challenge games. It would be madness putting that pressure on lads to come home midweek for a "challenge game". Leave the games for Sunday if it doesn't suit club's can concede.
Leitrimforliam (Leitrim) - Posts: 326 - 25/03/2024 16:42:15
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Well done to Leitrim...enjoyed the banter with your supporters in Aughrim last year..hopefully yis don't make a dogs dinner of Divison 3 like we did this year!
stringfellohawk (Wicklow) - Posts: 126 - 25/03/2024 17:19:53
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Replying To MagnumPIG: "Well done to all involved on the promotion today. I can't remember as relatively stress free a day in all my years as a Leitrim fan! Very professional performance today." I'd second this - I've been so long following Leitrim teams and I've had the panic set in when the opposition came back into the game more times than I've had hit dinners!!!
But, Sunday from the start, when Leitrim put over the first score I never felt the victory was ever in doubt. Leitrim played in such a sway that it seemed like no matter what Tipperary threw at us we would have and answer and be comfortable. Throughout the professionalism from Leitrim compared to other campaigns was evident.
Never in doubt - in 30 plus years as a Leitrim fan it is one of the first times I ever said that. Great way to feel. Best of luck in the league final , what a chance to lift silverware in HQ
leitrim4sam (Leitrim) - Posts: 672 - 25/03/2024 20:08:02
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Replying To MagnumPIG: "Well done to all involved on the promotion today. I can't remember as relatively stress free a day in all my years as a Leitrim fan! Very professional performance today." I'd second this - I've been so long following Leitrim teams and I've had the panic set in when the opposition came back into the game more times than I've had hit dinners!!!
But, Sunday from the start, when Leitrim put over the first score I never felt the victory was ever in doubt. Leitrim played in such a sway that it seemed like no matter what Tipperary threw at us we would have and answer and be comfortable. Throughout the professionalism from Leitrim compared to other campaigns was evident.
Never in doubt - in 30 plus years as a Leitrim fan it is one of the first times I ever said that. Great way to feel. Best of luck in the league final , what a chance to lift silverware in HQ
leitrim4sam (Leitrim) - Posts: 672 - 25/03/2024 20:50:58
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Replying To leitrim4sam: "I'd second this - I've been so long following Leitrim teams and I've had the panic set in when the opposition came back into the game more times than I've had hit dinners!!!
But, Sunday from the start, when Leitrim put over the first score I never felt the victory was ever in doubt. Leitrim played in such a sway that it seemed like no matter what Tipperary threw at us we would have and answer and be comfortable. Throughout the professionalism from Leitrim compared to other campaigns was evident.
Never in doubt - in 30 plus years as a Leitrim fan it is one of the first times I ever said that. Great way to feel. Best of luck in the league final , what a chance to lift silverware in HQ" What a true comment.
How this group of players react to supporters and the media is also very mature.
It appears to be a happy camp and great credit is due to the management team for this.
We are blessed to have people like Andy Mickey and Co there.
It is important to keep the wonderful support for this group going.Through thick and thin, from Gaelic Park to Carlow ,Dungarvan, Carlow and up the road in Longford we are there in droves.Andy is right , we are a football mad county craving to move out of the doldrums .There is a great feeling today knowing we will be travelling up to Croke Park and next year there is Division 3 to compete in.
joeman123 (Leitrim) - Posts: 510 - 25/03/2024 22:04:59
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Huge congratulations to the players and management and their families. A huge achievement. So many Leitrim teams have strived to get promoted before this and have failed. We need to enjoy the good days.
From my count there's approximately 9 players from the previous team that only lost to Derry by 4 points still involved. Ryan O'Rourke, Mark Plunkett, Darragh Rooney, Conor Reynolds, Pearce Dolan, Aidan Flynn, Cillian McGloin, Evan Sweeney, Shane Quinn. There may be one or two more that I'm forgetting. For them boys it's a tremendous achievement to keep the wheels turning when it might be easy to not make all the sacrifices they make especially after losing in New York.
Seeing the emotion in the faces of the likes of Donal Wrynn in some of the photos on the Observer shows how much it means to these players and why some of the talk about players can be disgraceful. For example this must be Wrynns and Shane Quinns 10/11 year representing Leitrim at Senior level - that's a phenomenal record without much reward.
Theres going to be a lot of people on here that need to reconsider their views of the management team.
The reality was when we were replacing Hyland (who the players were completely fed up of) the Leitrim job isn't going to be the most appealing. There were also 3 or 4 other jobs of the same standing on the go at the time.
On his own Andy Moran wouldn't be considered for the job with his lack of experience but when you added in Mike Sloan who had won an All Ireland u21 with Mayo and Barry McWeeney, James Glancy etc. into the backroom team you can see why as a package they were the best option available.
It also took great humbleness and lack of ego for Moran to bring in Mickey Graham once Sloan left - You will now here people saying that this weekends results were due to Graham etc.
Speaking to any of the players over the last few years they really enjoy the environment that's been created which is huge as apart from emigration we haven't seen many players just 'not commit'.
That's not saying Moran has ben perfect. Their choice of captains over the years including this year has astounded me.
They should never have allowed the league game that we lost to London go ahead in Beakan - No other county would have been pushed into this.
Their in-game substitutions can be extremely bizarre and make little impact. It also took them too long to make the change at centre back this year- Whether that was because they made Diffley Captain, I'm not sure but it was as clear as day to anyone who has been to games that either Gilheany or Plunkett had to be played here.
I also feel like they enabled Keith Beirne after his lack of commitment around the London game which was completely unfair to the wider panel.
They have made hard decisions though they 'pushed' Paddy Maguire into retirement after he really let himself down last year and a few other players who aren't good panel members weren't recalled.
They've had to deal with Covid, wide-scale emigration and serious off-field issues that I'm not sure many management teams in the country would be equipped to deal with. Even their stubboness to stick with Nevin O'Donnell in goals has to be fair worked out okay - That was a completely left field idea that not many would have tried.
At the start of the year if anyone had told me we would get promoted without Pearce Dolan and Plunkett for the first few games and without Keith Beirne, Jack Heslin, Paddy Maguire, David Bruen, Jordan Reynolds on the panel I wouldn't have believed them. We've also lost other players that would be on the squad such as Michael McWeeney, Oisin Madden etc. That's a huge amount of players (Many whom would start) to not have available in a county with the second smallest pick in Ireland. The wider scale mass emigration has also affected the quality of our club football which can't help either.
What we do now have is brilliant forwards. Our rate of scoring over the last 5 years is huge for a Division Four team.
O'Rourke is the best forward I've seen in Leitrim in 30 years. You always have a chance when he's on form.
John O'Mahonys team was built on defence and midfield and Des Dolans team was built on a back 6 that was as good as any in Ireland at the time.
Darragh Rooney has now finally turned into the player he threatened to be when he broke through at 17/18. He's a real leader now and his move to Judes has worked our brilliantly. His success up there also shows to the rest of the players they would compete in any county.
In Plunkett you have the ultimate Team Player who will knit everything together and do what the team needs to be done a member of the backroom team said the other day that he probably shouldn't be playing at the moment with his hip injury - Remember he was our best player against Derry that day in Croke Park.
The word is that there will be a few more significant players emigrating at the end of this year (just another reason to enjoy days like Saturday) but with the likes of McNulty, Foley, McGreal and the other promising u20s coming through hopefully we can keep the spine of this team together and push on.
I for one feel like they should prioritise winning this game and try secure some silverware and then deal with what comes with Sligo!
Leitrim1234 (Leitrim) - Posts: 316 - 25/03/2024 23:53:37
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Huge congratulations to the players and management and their families. A huge achievement. So many Leitrim teams have strived to get promoted before this and have failed. We need to enjoy the good days.
From my count there's approximately 9 players from the previous team that only lost to Derry by 4 points still involved. Ryan O'Rourke, Mark Plunkett, Darragh Rooney, Conor Reynolds, Pearce Dolan, Aidan Flynn, Cillian McGloin, Evan Sweeney, Shane Quinn. There may be one or two more that I'm forgetting. For them boys it's a tremendous achievement to keep the wheels turning when it might be easy to not make all the sacrifices they make especially after losing in New York.
Seeing the emotion in the faces of the likes of Donal Wrynn in some of the photos on the Observer shows how much it means to these players and why some of the talk about players can be disgraceful. For example this must be Wrynns and Shane Quinns 10/11 year representing Leitrim at Senior level - that's a phenomenal record without much reward.
Theres going to be a lot of people on here that need to reconsider their views of the management team.
The reality was when we were replacing Hyland (who the players were completely fed up of) the Leitrim job isn't going to be the most appealing. There were also 3 or 4 other jobs of the same standing on the go at the time.
On his own Andy Moran wouldn't be considered for the job with his lack of experience but when you added in Mike Sloan who had won an All Ireland u21 with Mayo and Barry McWeeney, James Glancy etc. into the backroom team you can see why as a package they were the best option available.
It also took great humbleness and lack of ego for Moran to bring in Mickey Graham once Sloan left - You will now here people saying that this weekends results were due to Graham etc.
Speaking to any of the players over the last few years they really enjoy the environment that's been created which is huge as apart from emigration we haven't seen many players just 'not commit'.
That's not saying Moran has ben perfect. Their choice of captains over the years including this year has astounded me.
They should never have allowed the league game that we lost to London go ahead in Beakan - No other county would have been pushed into this.
Their in-game substitutions can be extremely bizarre and make little impact. It also took them too long to make the change at centre back this year- Whether that was because they made Diffley Captain, I'm not sure but it was as clear as day to anyone who has been to games that either Gilheany or Plunkett had to be played here.
I also feel like they enabled Keith Beirne after his lack of commitment around the London game which was completely unfair to the wider panel.
They have made hard decisions though they 'pushed' Paddy Maguire into retirement after he really let himself down last year and a few other players who aren't good panel members weren't recalled.
They've had to deal with Covid, wide-scale emigration and serious off-field issues that I'm not sure many management teams in the country would be equipped to deal with. Even their stubboness to stick with Nevin O'Donnell in goals has to be fair worked out okay - That was a completely left field idea that not many would have tried.
At the start of the year if anyone had told me we would get promoted without Pearce Dolan and Plunkett for the first few games and without Keith Beirne, Jack Heslin, Paddy Maguire, David Bruen, Jordan Reynolds on the panel I wouldn't have believed them. We've also lost other players that would be on the squad such as Michael McWeeney, Oisin Madden etc. That's a huge amount of players (Many whom would start) to not have available in a county with the second smallest pick in Ireland. The wider scale mass emigration has also affected the quality of our club football which can't help either.
What we do now have is brilliant forwards. Our rate of scoring over the last 5 years is huge for a Division Four team.
O'Rourke is the best forward I've seen in Leitrim in 30 years. You always have a chance when he's on form.
John O'Mahonys team was built on defence and midfield and Des Dolans team was built on a back 6 that was as good as any in Ireland at the time.
Darragh Rooney has now finally turned into the player he threatened to be when he broke through at 17/18. He's a real leader now and his move to Judes has worked our brilliantly. His success up there also shows to the rest of the players they would compete in any county.
In Plunkett you have the ultimate Team Player who will knit everything together and do what the team needs to be done a member of the backroom team said the other day that he probably shouldn't be playing at the moment with his hip injury - Remember he was our best player against Derry that day in Croke Park.
The word is that there will be a few more significant players emigrating at the end of this year (just another reason to enjoy days like Saturday) but with the likes of McNulty, Foley, McGreal and the other promising u20s coming through hopefully we can keep the spine of this team together and push on.
I for one feel like they should prioritise winning this game and try secure some silverware and then deal with what comes with Sligo!
Leitrim1234 (Leitrim) - Posts: 316 - 26/03/2024 00:42:19
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Replying To joeman123: "What a true comment.
How this group of players react to supporters and the media is also very mature.
It appears to be a happy camp and great credit is due to the management team for this.
We are blessed to have people like Andy Mickey and Co there.
It is important to keep the wonderful support for this group going.Through thick and thin, from Gaelic Park to Carlow ,Dungarvan, Carlow and up the road in Longford we are there in droves.Andy is right , we are a football mad county craving to move out of the doldrums .There is a great feeling today knowing we will be travelling up to Croke Park and next year there is Division 3 to compete in." In fairness you have good support through thick or thin. A good few were down in the Park last year.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13920 - 26/03/2024 11:06:32
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Replying To ForeverBlue2: "Little interest in a National final in Croke park…. Like Leitrim get to one every year I suppose …"
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..... I have some interest but I don't really care if we win or lose. Can't help it, I just don't. I care far more about beating Sligo in the Connacht Championship, maybe if that match was in 2-3 weeks time then it might matter more,
Anyway its not really a "national" final - there were only 8 teams in this specific competition (div 4). Plus, I've a feeling beating Laois next year in Division 3 will in the long run prove more important than beating them in the the Div 4 final.
Our Connacht Championship wins outside of London and New York are rare ( and we have lost to both of them) - so they are valuable and memorable.
Priorities:-
(1) Stay in Division 3 ( where beating Laois could be crucial)
(2) Beat Sligo
(3) Good run in Tailteann Cup 2024
(4) Promotion from Division 3 ( unlikely but why not, didn't look that much stronger than Div 4 this year)
(5) Give Galway a rattle if we beat Sligo
(6) Division 4 title ( job is done there)
( I'll respond here obviously - but also reply same on Leitrim forum and move to there, this is more about Leitrim than Div 4. But wondering about opinions of the Wexford, Longford, Carlow , Tipperary, Waterford, London posters about any Div 4 final next year against other priorities)
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Fair play to the county board for holding off the works to the pitch so we have a home game against Sligo. Commence sense prevailed!! Could be a great week for us League final Saturday, U20's vs Mayo Wednesday and out in Connacht against Sligo next weekend. There's great atmosphere around the county. Personally I'm buzzing for it.
Leitrimforliam (Leitrim) - Posts: 326 - 27/03/2024 16:04:01
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Replying To Solo_Run: "Moving from Division 4 Thread.
Replying To ForeverBlue2: "Little interest in a National final in Croke park…. Like Leitrim get to one every year I suppose …"
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..... I have some interest but I don't really care if we win or lose. Can't help it, I just don't. I care far more about beating Sligo in the Connacht Championship, maybe if that match was in 2-3 weeks time then it might matter more,
Anyway its not really a "national" final - there were only 8 teams in this specific competition (div 4). Plus, I've a feeling beating Laois next year in Division 3 will in the long run prove more important than beating them in the the Div 4 final.
Our Connacht Championship wins outside of London and New York are rare ( and we have lost to both of them) - so they are valuable and memorable.
Priorities:-
(1) Stay in Division 3 ( where beating Laois could be crucial)
(2) Beat Sligo
(3) Good run in Tailteann Cup 2024
(4) Promotion from Division 3 ( unlikely but why not, didn't look that much stronger than Div 4 this year)
(5) Give Galway a rattle if we beat Sligo
(6) Division 4 title ( job is done there)
( I'll respond here obviously - but also reply same on Leitrim forum and move to there, this is more about Leitrim than Div 4. But wondering about opinions of the Wexford, Longford, Carlow , Tipperary, Waterford, London posters about any Div 4 final next year against other priorities)
Solo_Run (Leitrim) - Posts: 205 - 27/03/2024 14:57:20 253" Respect your opinion but I'd really like to give Saturday a right rattle ,winning a trophy in Croke Park would be such a boost for the county image the feelgood factor it would bring, I'd only be worrying about the Sligo game on Monday just my opinion.
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Replying To Solo_Run: "Moving from Division 4 Thread.
Replying To ForeverBlue2: "Little interest in a National final in Croke park…. Like Leitrim get to one every year I suppose …"
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..... I have some interest but I don't really care if we win or lose. Can't help it, I just don't. I care far more about beating Sligo in the Connacht Championship, maybe if that match was in 2-3 weeks time then it might matter more,
Anyway its not really a "national" final - there were only 8 teams in this specific competition (div 4). Plus, I've a feeling beating Laois next year in Division 3 will in the long run prove more important than beating them in the the Div 4 final.
Our Connacht Championship wins outside of London and New York are rare ( and we have lost to both of them) - so they are valuable and memorable.
Priorities:-
(1) Stay in Division 3 ( where beating Laois could be crucial)
(2) Beat Sligo
(3) Good run in Tailteann Cup 2024
(4) Promotion from Division 3 ( unlikely but why not, didn't look that much stronger than Div 4 this year)
(5) Give Galway a rattle if we beat Sligo
(6) Division 4 title ( job is done there)
( I'll respond here obviously - but also reply same on Leitrim forum and move to there, this is more about Leitrim than Div 4. But wondering about opinions of the Wexford, Longford, Carlow , Tipperary, Waterford, London posters about any Div 4 final next year against other priorities)
Solo_Run (Leitrim) - Posts: 205 - 27/03/2024 14:57:20 253" Silverware is important. Why cant you win both the League final and beat Sligo? It's not neccessarily 1 or the other lad. Obviously you want to beat Sligo, that's like us wanting to beat Kilkenny at hurling. As regards beating Laois next year you could stay up after losing to them, or go down after beating them. Why would you care about beating Laois any further than winning every game? Is there a rivalry there I'm not aware of?
Not sure about the difference between div3 and div4. The top 2 or 3 in div3 would be better,the bottom 5 less so. Staying up should be achievable.
As regards next years Div4 we would hope to win it, but it will be the same dogfight as it was this year and last year. A little bit of luck can go a long way;-)
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Replying To Solo_Run: "Moving from Division 4 Thread.
Replying To ForeverBlue2: "Little interest in a National final in Croke park…. Like Leitrim get to one every year I suppose …"
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..... I have some interest but I don't really care if we win or lose. Can't help it, I just don't. I care far more about beating Sligo in the Connacht Championship, maybe if that match was in 2-3 weeks time then it might matter more,
Anyway its not really a "national" final - there were only 8 teams in this specific competition (div 4). Plus, I've a feeling beating Laois next year in Division 3 will in the long run prove more important than beating them in the the Div 4 final.
Our Connacht Championship wins outside of London and New York are rare ( and we have lost to both of them) - so they are valuable and memorable.
Priorities:-
(1) Stay in Division 3 ( where beating Laois could be crucial)
(2) Beat Sligo
(3) Good run in Tailteann Cup 2024
(4) Promotion from Division 3 ( unlikely but why not, didn't look that much stronger than Div 4 this year)
(5) Give Galway a rattle if we beat Sligo
(6) Division 4 title ( job is done there)
( I'll respond here obviously - but also reply same on Leitrim forum and move to there, this is more about Leitrim than Div 4. But wondering about opinions of the Wexford, Longford, Carlow , Tipperary, Waterford, London posters about any Div 4 final next year against other priorities)
Solo_Run (Leitrim) - Posts: 205 - 27/03/2024 14:57:20 253" Possibly the only person in Leitrim that doesn't care if we win on Saturday. The Laois game is more important than the Sligo game. This will be the first meaningful silverware we could win since 2000. In 10 years time what are you going to remember more "winning a national league title in croke park (big if)" or "beating Sligo in Connacht and then getting hammered in the next round by Galway".
There's no reason why we can't win both games against Sligo and Laois. But this Saturday is possibly our most important game in 10-15 years. Winning in Croke Park on Saturday would be massive for our county. Seeing Leitrim lift a trophy in Croke Park would inspire the next generation of kids. The last generation had 1994 for people under the age of 30-40 this Saturday is our 94.
We haven't had many chances to lift silverware in our history so no one should turn their noses up at it. I'm glad to hear that Andy and Micky's full focus is on winning this Saturday
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I heard on the Football Pod that it will just be Leitrims 5th ever appearance playing in Croke Park. Dublin play that many including league final during the league
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Great picture on the Observer of our past sponsor Seamus Clarke and our current sponsor Pat Gallagher, great to see their investment ( along with other sponsors) paying dividends.
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Replying To ForeverBlue2: "Little interest in a National final in Croke park…. Like Leitrim get to one every year I suppose …"
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..... I have some interest but I don't really care if we win or lose. Can't help it, I just don't. I care far more about beating Sligo in the Connacht Championship, maybe if that match was in 2-3 weeks time then it might matter more,
Anyway its not really a "national" final - there were only 8 teams in this specific competition (div 4). Plus, I've a feeling beating Laois next year in Division 3 will in the long run prove more important than beating them in the the Div 4 final.
Our Connacht Championship wins outside of London and New York are rare ( and we have lost to both of them) - so they are valuable and memorable.
Priorities:-
(1) Stay in Division 3 ( where beating Laois could be crucial)
(2) Beat Sligo
(3) Good run in Tailteann Cup 2024
(4) Promotion from Division 3 ( unlikely but why not, didn't look that much stronger than Div 4 this year)
(5) Give Galway a rattle if we beat Sligo
(6) Division 4 title ( job is done there)
( I'll respond here obviously - but also reply same on Leitrim forum and move to there, this is more about Leitrim than Div 4. But wondering about opinions of the Wexford, Longford, Carlow , Tipperary, Waterford, London posters about any Div 4 final next year against other priorities)
Solo_Run (Leitrim) - Posts: 205 - 27/03/2024 14:57:20 253" Possibly the only person in Leitrim that doesn't care if we win on Saturday. The Laois game is more important than the Sligo game. This will be the first meaningful silverware we could win since 2000. In 10 years time what are you going to remember more "winning a national league title in croke park (big if)" or "beating Sligo in Connacht and then getting hammered in the next round by Galway". There's no reason why we can't win both games against Sligo and Laois. But this Saturday is possibly our most important game in 10-15 years. Winning in Croke Park on Saturday would be massive for our county. Seeing Leitrim lift a trophy in Croke Park would inspire the next generation of kids. The last generation had 1994 for people under the age of 30-40 this Saturday is our 94. We haven't had many chances to lift silverware in our history so no one should turn their noses up at it. I'm glad to hear that Andy and Micky's full focus is on winning this Saturday"
joeman123 (Leitrim) - Posts: 510 - 27/03/2024 19:00:29
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